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new theory about how men are controlling women

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BeforeEve · 17/02/2014 07:54

Hi,
I’d like to know your opinion about one new theory about how men are controlling women.
I heard about new research of psychologists who discovered how men subdue (control, manipulate) women. These psychologists say that every person controlled by the images. However, men have usurped all areas of production of images, such as politics (image making), religion, painting, film, literature, music, and so on. There are some women in these areas too, but they do not know the secret of how to made artificial images as men. Men keep it a secret. That is why men but not women have power in this society. Men occupy all the key managerial positions in all spheres. They have greater financial opportunities than women do. In addition, men control women, totally. Men knows the secret how to create images and create them to subdue women. Men are rudely using women in many spheres of life. Women for men are a resource of cheap labor and a tool for the reproduction of the human race, nothing more. Men turning them into dumb sows, in prostitutes, in a “food processor” in his kitchen. By these images, women are programmed to be a slave of men.
Men do it unnoticed for women. Moreover, women inspired the idea that they control men.
Men are very cruel to women. They realize that artificial images are very harmful to women, that is why women grow old earlier than men, get sick and feel unhappy, however anyway men are continuing the process of creating of new and new artificial images for women to have a power over them.
What do you think about this? Thank you.

OP posts:
SolidGoldBrass · 17/02/2014 10:30

The 'secret' such as it is, is that men invented religion as a way to control women. HTH.

thenightsky · 17/02/2014 10:35

Are you the same poster who found a book in the attic at the weekend...?

Ballsballsballs · 17/02/2014 11:04

That's what I thought nightsky. This has also been posted in FWR.

scornedwoman67 · 17/02/2014 11:41

OP I think you do need to seek some help. Your post sounds rather paranoid to me.

BeforeEve · 18/02/2014 08:48

Hello! Thank you for your responses.
Could I answer to all of you in one post, ok?
Firstly, there is no information about this subject in public access because it’s not related with “davids ickes”. I tried to find it with no result. I could not find anything, in web, Libraries until one of the friend of mine did not tell me about the authors of this theory.
I am Russian living in the Germany, my friend living in the US told me about them. They are Russians too, they are scientists, they were granted for political asylum in the US due to persecutions of Federal Security Services of Russia.
If I'm not mistaken their names are Andrey Davydov and Olga Skorbatyuk. Former KGB agents trying to kill them because of the main subject of their researches - the Catalog of Human Population (called Catalog Of Human Souls).
Briefly, they discovered that several ancient books consists the descripting of unconsciousness sphere of humans. One of these books consists about 300 descriptions "who is who", how persons lives, in details.
These scientists create the technology how to decrypt these books and got the ability to know how humans' psyche works, which types of "souls" (models of humans) exists, and how got the detailed information about any human. Moreover, they got the information how to get full control over any person from these ancient sources of knowledge.
That is why they would have been killed if they did not escape from Russia because Russian Security Services wants to expropriate their research for internal using.
Unfortunately in web I cannot find the information what are these scientists doing now but my friend gives me the link to Smashwords where they sell more than 260 their own books.
Most of these books in Russian language. In these books authors share the information about people from the "Catalog Of Human Souls". There are the descriptions of men and women, named "Software" of souls”. Another part of their books in Russian about how to subdue people and get the power over them (like as User Manual).
In addition, there are some books in English and these books are about Women's psychology. Because the second area of their research is Women's Studies.
Unfortunately, the authors do not share the information about how men are controlling women by creating images in English.
However, I can briefly tell you about it. Authors of the “Catalog Of Human Souls” said that all information about humans recorded in human's psyche by images. Images are the language of human's "software" (bio-programs). Every type of images (natural or artificial which men create to get the control over women) works in the level of human's cell. (I mean cells as the basic structural, functional and biological unit of all known living organisms.)
The impact of the images, even artificially created takes place not on a conscious level, but at the level of the unconscious. Moreover, the image can transform a person in cell level. For example, if woman hears that all women are weak and fragile, the female body's cells begins to perform this image like a soldier who performs a commandment, and a woman becomes weak, begins to have problems with health related to weakness. For example, she will has the weakness of the nervous system, muscles, hair, nails and so on. A fragility as an image will cause the real fragility, for example, of the blood vessels or osteoporosis. There are some effects of the impact of images to the human body. Sorry I think it’s very crude examples.
After this adjustment, I hope you realize the danger for all women, which represent all the images created by men, is not it.
In addition, these psychologists say that every woman is born with a bio-program working on in natural images. And these natural images can make any woman very powerful. However, men’s artificial images block natural potential of women..

OP posts:
BeforeEve · 18/02/2014 08:51

PS. I’m not a journalist and don’t write articles.
Unfortunately, I learned who is Davids Ickes only after I heard this name from you and didn’t read his book(s).
Sorry I’m not familiar with conspiracy theory you talking about; I do not interested in any beliefs, I'm interested in just knowledge.
I apologize if my definition of "stupid sow" offended someone. I certainly do not want this. Sorry.

OP posts:
BeforeEve · 18/02/2014 08:54

Hope I answer your questions. Could you answer my questions please?
Did you notice that somehow men have more power in the society? If there is not a true tell me why women not men fighting for their rights? Is everything Ok with men’s rights instead women’s rights, why? Please could you explain me! Thank you.

If you disagree with the opinion that women grow old earlier than men, could you explain me: Why men often change their wives to younger women, and often do it several times? Why women in most cases do not do like men? Maybe it's because women have better health than men and looks better than men in the same age?
I guess that the younger sexual partner requires very good health but most women don't have it after 45-50 year. Abandoned women proudly "go solo" and have lovers from time to time instead a men who have a normal sex life with younger women. Moreover, often men have a family too instead a huge number of women even with children do not have a family. Why?
Why the most cosmetics and medicines consumed by women? It's because they are healthier and look younger than men?..
Why men have more money, more authority, weight, key leadership positions, scientific researches and discoveries, more creative products? May be due to men have less health and energy for all this than women?
What proportion of men and women were awarded the Nobel Prize? How many men and women are Presidents of the countries in the world? Control the largest financial flows? Legislate? Are the most well-known film directors, producers, writers, painters, musicians - women?.. Why is so? Didn’t you ask this question to yourself? Do you really believe that women cannot do all what men doing?

However my main question to you why are you SO angry???
I think no one can avoid dangerous situation if a person don't know about it?.. I as you don't know is it true or not, however I as a woman would like to be able to prevent that harm what I be able to prevent.
Unfortunately I'm not a 15 years old girl and I already have big my own experience in relationships and know that the most part of women have not very good results in this area.
I as a woman appreciate any care of me, any information that may help me to live better.
I do not know is it true or not but if it is true I'd don't want to be a victim.
That is why I am not angry on someone; I try to analyze the facts and offering to do it together.
PPSS. Yes, men look nice, caring and respectful with women. They never do not forget to flatter women. (By the chance, may be do you know why men make compliments to women, but not vice versa? I really do not know!)
Are you sure that there is not one of men's manipulative games (roles, images) for women: "I'm a good boy, I love you, trust me"? I'm not sure now...
Looking forward your replies. Thank you.

OP posts:
ouryve · 18/02/2014 08:54

You don't get very far with a mass generalisation of groups like "men" or "women". They're nonsensical.

And conspiracy theories have to be one of the most oppressive concepts ever dreamed up.

LisaMed · 18/02/2014 09:11

Is it the Illuminati?

LisaMed · 18/02/2014 09:13

x post. It's the Illuminati

Stropzilla · 18/02/2014 09:21

So when women hear they are physically weak they actually become weak? Is that right? Sounds a bit bonkers to me. As for men changing wives to younger ones, I think thats less down to women aging and more to do with the man being a wanker.

KouignAmann · 18/02/2014 09:26

Sigh... I struggled through that and wish I hadn't.

I remember as a rational scientifically educated youngster backpacking through India reading Carl Sagan's books about aliens and this gives me the same despair.

OP not everything you read is true. Using long words and referring to very old theories does not make it true.

Aargh.

UriGeller · 18/02/2014 09:34

I think there might be something in what you say but if you'll forgive me, its rather obscured by your way of saying it. If you could link to some writing on the subject (of the way the human psyche responds to negative attention) that would be helpful. Its obviously something you're really into, I'd like to understand.

BeCool · 18/02/2014 10:05

I do believe the patriarchy is still oppressing women, but conspiracy theories and mass sweeping statements (the like of above) leave me very cold.

Offred · 18/02/2014 10:16

I think the language barrier is making this thread impossible tbh.

The right words are quite important when discussing a topic like this.

You can kind of tell when someone's first language is not english which is why I'm not getting het up about the generalisations.

Anniegoestotown · 18/02/2014 10:23

that is why women grow old earlier than men

Don't women outlive men generally.?

Joysmum · 18/02/2014 10:41

Offred I agree.

AndTheBandPlayedOn · 18/02/2014 14:09

We will certainly grow old earlier reading this clap trap.

Twinklestein · 18/02/2014 20:17

I don't why I bothered googling Andrey and Olga, but this is what I found on amazon.com:

Women's Thirst for Power over Men Is the Pathway to Become a Garbage (A Log With Her Legs Spread Wide)

Hmm
Ballsballsballs · 18/02/2014 20:48

The writing style on the Amazon description is somewhat familiar.

Offred · 18/02/2014 20:49

Indeed! I thought that!!!

Offred · 18/02/2014 20:50

I wonder why the op couldn't link to anything despite googling! Hmm

Ballsballsballs · 18/02/2014 20:59

I wonder if our responses would have ended up in another shitty ebook....

wol1968 · 18/02/2014 22:29

This writing 'style' puts me more in mind of Google Translate than anything else. I must admit to chuckling a bit over the ridiculously off-key idioms. Please, ladies, don't take it seriously.

OP, perhaps you could try posting this in Feminism? Smile cackling evilly while waiting for the Feminism regulars to shred this ill-assorted collection of words to pieces

Ballsballsballs · 18/02/2014 22:32

It was in FWR, wol. And it was deleted after much shrugging on the part of the regulars.

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