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Partner puts me down, what is wrong with me?

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boringoldc · 11/01/2014 14:29

Name changed for this, have been a regular poster here for a while.

I'm not sure where to start with this as it's long and I don't want to drip feed so I'll try my best. I have been with my partner since 2010, I have a DS from a previous marriage and am pregnant at the moment, though it is early days.

I'll be honest, I don't have any real hobbies as such but I am happy the way I am before anyone asks, I don't feel down about anything. In my own time especially after work I like to read books, watch the tv, go on mumsnet, I read the papers a lot and like to debate about things, when it's sunny I like to go for walks or take DS to the park and beach but my partner constantly says I am boring and have no hobbies. I get upset at this but he constantly says how much I bore him. He has what he says are "real" hobbies like he enjoys working on cars and gardening but he says mumsnetting, reading papers etc aren't real hobbies and I bore him to death, I've been called a "boring cunt" before. Sometimes I have questioned myself and convinced myself I am not normal and tried to get myself into things like running but I just don't like it, I am happy the way I am but he makes me feel like I am the most dull person on earth. I do have my own friends to, they often come over for drinks or like next week for an example, we take my DS out together for a meal and a shop etc. I don't even always buy anything but I have a keen interest in fashion (again, partner says this isn't a real hobby)

Sometimes he is so nice to me and things will be great for a while then suddenly he just turns on me and insults me about how boring I am and how I don't do anything. The other day he actually had a go at me because apparently I was on the laptop but "didn't look at him when he was talking to me" I knew EXACTLY what he was saying and was doing two things at once (applying for a job) he said I am extremly rude even though I can remember everything he said and my replies. It's just like he loves putting me down.

He is constantly critical of everything I do as well. Like I can't wash up properly apparently, I do things the "wrong way" like I eat with a knife and fork in the opposite hand to most as it's comfortable. If I chop things in a certain way he HAS to show me his way as it's better (and I try just to shut him up but I'm a grown woman for crying out loud, I know what is best for me!) It's like I am not allowed a personality of my own. Like when I am cooking I like to be alone (small kitchen, it's just my preferance) and start to get a a bit stroppy I won't lie if i have people crowding round me, he says I am rude and he "just wants to help" i always say thank you and I appreciate it but I just prefer to do that on my own.

He says I am never allowed to mention the past as it's the past and to be honest, I don't. Sometimes if he has upset me I will mention that he has done it before (like calling me the c word) and asked him to not do it as it upsets me but he does it again. He also had a lot of anger issues for the first while we were together, i.e, smashing things up, sometimes physical towards me, a lot of insults. I stood by him whilst he sought help for his issues and have tried my best to be supportive. But I am not allowed to ever mention it yet he can bring up my past. When I got with him I was honest in the fact I had suffered post natal depression with my son and responded badly, I was still a good mother but I did go out once or twice a week to nightclubs and I had a few one night stands. Well quite a lot. I do hugely regret the way I acted but I suppose I wanted to feel attractive and felt lonely and down about myself after my first marriage broke down. He says I am a slag and often brings this up for doing that even though I can't bring up anything that was even mentioned yesterday.

Also about two years ago he was messaging his childhood sweetheart (he was with her from about age 14 to nearly 16) and in the messages he called her "gorgeous" and they were talking about him picking her up late at night as she was drunk. He says nothing else happened and when I found out he did delete her, block her from all contact but it has stuck in my mind ever since. He says he only called her that as she was feeling down about herself and says I just make a big deal out of it. He had been hiding his phone for a while before that though so part of me wonders if he deleted more. If I say this though he just goes mad and storms off into another room and ignores me all night.

That is also what he does. If we argue he always has to storm off and sulk over night. I hate sleeping on rows, I don't tend to sleep well and just want to get it sorted but he will just sleep in another room huffing himself to sleep.

The thing is sometimes he is so nice, when I am home from work he will be there to cook dinner, he'll have cleaned the house or done things for me (but even then he says I don't show enough appreciation and he says my face says it all!) Sometimes we have these lovely evenings together and I can't deny he is a fantastic Father to my child. He is very attentitve to him and would never hurt him, that I trust, 100%. I don't know why I am writing this really. I just feel like I am the most boring, dull person on earth and feel like my confidence is being chipped away at.

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TeaMakesItAllPossible · 11/01/2014 19:28

Absolutely you are, he has no claim on your DS and in this instance there is no benefit to your DS having him in his life as a father figure.

If you live near me I will drive you home to save you the money.

boringoldc · 11/01/2014 19:32

No he isnt adopted thank god.

The company i work for has two branches near my Nan so i am wondering if they could maybe squeeze my hours there until something solid comes along. I work four four hour shifts a week.

He has just invited a friend round (didnt ask me) not in the mood to socialise (im using my phone) but know if i go in the bedroom ill be "rude"

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boringoldc · 11/01/2014 19:33

Thank you tea i am hoping i know more on monday. I am in the south east just to narrow it slightly.

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nickeldonkeyonadustyroad · 11/01/2014 19:44

the first thing I thought was "why are you still with him?!"
I also thought that he told you he split up with his ex-gfs, but actually, they split up with him.
he's rude to everyone.

my area of expertise is the car.
if you want to learn to drive an automatic, then do it !
yes, they're more expensive to run- ours gets about 27mpg. but! I am uncoordinated too, and I have found that I feel safer and a better driver in an automatic. mainly because I don't have to worry about changjng gear, I can just get on and drive. I have found I'm a better driver because I have more room to ckncentrate on the road and potetnial hazards.

TeaMakesItAllPossible · 11/01/2014 19:45

Depending where in the SE, that would be entirely possible as I am on the M4 corridor.

Do what you'd normally do tonight and be safe interestingyounglovely

ZorbaTheHoarder · 11/01/2014 19:47

Don't worry about him calling you "rude"- I would say it was pretty rude inviting a friend round without asking you first...
I just wanted to say that you sound anything but 'boring', OP. You sound very intelligent, courageous and determined.

You are thinking about the practical steps you need to take, which shows that you have accepted that things cannot carry on as they are.

Just keep reminding yourself that he sees nothing wrong with calling you a "boring cunt" and a "slag", so long as your son does not hear.
As others have said, don't give another thought to the state of the walls - just get away from him as soon as you can and don't look back!

captainmummy · 11/01/2014 20:18

OP - I am in the south east (near gatwick) and if I could help, then PM me!

PS - I think you are very articulate, and he sounds an absolute uneducated arse)

boringoldc · 11/01/2014 20:35

Hello all again thank you for new messages. Laying in bed at the moment as he is chatting to friend about cars . How would i get this moved? He knows my original mn username but i have logged out on laptop and been private browzing on phone. Is there a hidden topic on here?

I am in Kent. My family are the other side of the river (best way to describe!)

I have been thinking. I love my house. It is near the beach and if i could just get my license i would love to stay on the coast as my son loves it here and he loves his nursery. As long as i could visit home reguarly i would be happy (train is over 27 pounds home)

I love my home town to obviously but it is cheaper here and i do love the seaside. Nearest seaside to my old town is 30 miles. Im making it my new years resoloution to drive! I have an old mini on the drive that he was meant to do for me. I havent a clue how to sort it but the logbook is in my name. Even as it is it will fetch £300. I could put that towards lessons. nickel im sticking with auto 100%. I tried manual when i was 17 and hated it. I failed my test twice then got my.license taken due to my medical reasons (not mental health as someone said above) its neurological. I have my prov license back now no restrictions though i have to renew every 3 years rather than 10.

Your right about it being rude. He knows there has been tension all day and i have been upset. I have no doubts he did this for a reaction off me.

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chateauferret · 11/01/2014 20:42

That business about automatic cars is bollocks. I couldn't learn a manual at all but an automatic was a diddle in comparison. Of course it suits him to have you not driving as God forfend that you should have the independence to go where you want when you want. So he spinning you this shite. Arsehole.

TeaMakesItAllPossible · 11/01/2014 20:50

You report your thread and ask for it be moved to where it can't be searched. You could always just do another name change on your account. My I suggest IDeserveBetter Wink

Kent is a long way from me unfortunately Hmm

I drive an automatic tis ace.

boringoldc · 11/01/2014 20:53

I prefer automatics. I found myself getting annoyed in a manual and not being able to concentrate. I know somepeople love manuals but i just cannot get the hang.

I am watching the notebook and feeling a bit soppy. Think it might be these pregnancy hormones!

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TeaMakesItAllPossible · 11/01/2014 20:56

Grin To the pregnancy hormones.

I like driving all vehicles really but mainly walk as I live in a very small city.

boringoldc · 11/01/2014 21:01

Thats why i would like a car tea our local high street is rubbish. Just charity shops and take aways and the buses are twice an hour same with trains. They have been terrible lately because of flooding here to. I was 17 ten years ago now so i think i might be a bit more confident in a car. I feel my health is under control enough to drive again to.

Thank you all for everything. I have asked for this to be moved. An unmumsnetty x for you all.

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ivykaty44 · 11/01/2014 21:03

You sound such a lovely person, I want to wish you well. Lots of great advice for you I don't have any to add.

But can I just say I look on gardening as a chore must like cleaning the bog so to me to call it a hobby seems bizarre. As for cars I pay a garage to look at mine and drive it's not exactly exciting is it....

You take care

TeaMakesItAllPossible · 11/01/2014 21:04

You'll be great at it. You've got reason to concentrate now. It's easy driving. Promise

boringoldc · 11/01/2014 21:05

Thank you katy gardening is a chore to me to. Much like a big pile of laundry looking at me now.

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nickeldonkeyonadustyroad · 11/01/2014 22:50

Grin sounds like my town.

I like gardening... I don't like general gardening, though, I like it when the garden is in such a state it needs loads of work. I suppose what I really like is digging Grin

tallwivglasses · 12/01/2014 02:08

Just caught up and this is all looking very positive :)

CheesyBadger · 12/01/2014 03:31

This thread makes me so sad. You sound lovely and not remotely boring.

boringoldc · 12/01/2014 09:22

Well last night was interesting. I decided I may as well push for answers when he started speaking to me now I know my plans.

He blamed yesterday all on me. He said I was "clever" and twisted it round. You remember me saying he'd been complaining about me not showing an interest in his interests? Well of course not. He asks questions what I am reading etc and how is work but he still calls me boring a lot and says I have no real hobbies so I said THAT'S why. I told him I have no enthusiasm for him and don't enjoy being round him when you have outbursts every so often and call me a cunt, boring etc. He went off on one saying typical me, blaming him for how I was and how NOTHING is ever my fault. Then he bleeped on about how HE'D changed for me (he is talking about stopping the violence) so why couldn't I do the same for him? He then said "cunt" is just a word and I need to man up and stop taking it to heart. Infact he said, that's my problem, if I stopped taking words to heart then I wouldn't get "offended" so much. I'm not offended at all. I just expect respect and I don't like being called names.Confused

He asked me what I want (all exasperated like this is a big task) I said I want respect. He asked me what that meant. I said, I don't want to be called names, I don't want to have a row (like all couples do) and be punished by you withholding affection/sulking in another room while I cry. Sometimes when he has got nasty I have had to go in the other room as things have got out of hand and I have just sobbed to myself. I always wait for him to come in and say sorry and hug me. It never happens. I'll hear him snoring away all night whilst I cry. I was honest. I said it's because you don't love me he said what a surprise, I say this a lot, if I thought that way, why didn't I go? I asked him how can you sleep (and he often stuffs his face) knowing, the woman you love, is upset, because of you? He said, "I just can."

I got very upset, I won't lie as he said, "I will never change" and it hit me that he HAS never loved me, ever. I didn't want to let on my plans so did the usual asking him to stay etc (obviously, I didn't mean this) he started calling me nuts, crazy etc, I am a mug for putting him with him (first correct thing he has said ever)

He spent lots of time minimising my experiences last night to. I explained to him how his verbal insults made me feel worse than I did at school. At school the kids were nasty, but I knew they didn't like me. The verbal aggression that comes from HIM is meant to be someone who loves me and it hurts more. I explained I'd rather have a bottle over my head than go through them five years at school and he laughed and said how pathetic that sounded as being bottled hurts. I don't doubt that but like I say, the bullying was the worst thing ever for me and it's formed who I am and what I tolerate now.

Anyway, i went to bed, he followed, fell asleep with his arm on me. Sorry about the long update. Thanks for all the posts.

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ZorbaTheHoarder · 12/01/2014 09:38

OP, I'm sorry you had such a horrible evening with him last night but you really deserve a medal for telling him exactly how you felt, in spite of his ongoing insults and refusal to acknowledge any of your feelings. It must be very hurtful to realize that he is such a deeply unpleasant person who has no respect for you at all, but you can see very clearly now that escape is the only solution.

Keep working on your plans to leave and don't give him a second thought. He really isn't worth it.

Good luck!

JoinYourPlayfellows · 12/01/2014 09:42

"Then he bleeped on about how HE'D changed for me (he is talking about stopping the violence) so why couldn't I do the same for him?"

Shock

There really are no words to express quite how low my opinion of this piece of shit is.

He expects you to accept verbal abuse and be grateful for it because HE'S STOPPED BEATING YOU?

Jesus fucking Christ.

I'm glad you've decided to go and I really look forward to the update that tells us you've gone.

And you are not at all boring.

I wouldn't call any of your interests hobbies either, but plenty of boring wankers have hobbies and nothing interesting to say.

It's like people who think going on holiday (aka "travel") makes them exciting.

boringoldc · 12/01/2014 09:47

Thank you Zorba he is very unpleasant. He fits the textbook though because when we met he was all very overly nice, I love you so much, your the one for me, no one has ever made me feel this way, as soon as I saw you I knew etc. I still remember one thing in particular, he uses Facebook (especially in the beginning, not so much now) to express these feelings. There would be a lot of gushing statuses about me and he said, "I've never been like that with exes before" I knew this was a lie though as we met online dating and me and a friend had a girlie night in at this point, browzing profiles, and when we added him on facebook we did a standard facebook look and saw previous statuses from another relationship. I kept that quiet for years as anyway, it's none of my business, but it annoyed me how he said I was the only one, like I was some child that needed impressing. I eventually fronted him and said me and my friend knew that wasn't true and he automatically got on the defensive (as always) said I was "nosey" and that actually, his ex-girlfriend used to MAKE him do the statuses or she'd whine at him till he did. Or as he said, "I did it to keep her quiet" Hmm

I am running through practical things in my head now. I am wondering how reasonable he will be once he knows I'm gone for good, i.e, if he see's DS as his, will he help out so I can learn to drive? Will he help get him on the shifts I can't collect him? Also other small practical things like I have a woodburner and collect wood for free (saves a fortune) but until I can drive, will he collect for me? It will either go one of two ways a) a big fat no or b) he will be weirdly nice and cooperative because he wants me to stay or he is happy to split. I never know his reaction with anything.

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TeaMakesItAllPossible · 12/01/2014 09:50

I have an Ex who sounds exactly the same. He still blames me, he still tells anyone who'll listen (including my 11yo DS) "what I'm like", he remembers small perceived slights years later and twists them to his own perspective. Accepting that you can't change his opinion or reason with him is a very important part of leaving. The most I got from him (in counselling) was "everyone is bullied, and bullies in return". Do not expect him to recognise what he's done is wrong. Now is the time to disengage.

And to reiterate the point earlier please be careful. At this point things can very frequently escalate, anticipate a return to physical abuse and perhaps new types emerging. Get your papers and emergency bag together. Have two plans. One leaving in a controlled way, another just to go. You might not need it but it's handy to have. I wish I had had one. A plan, and a sense of what is normal, would have changed a lot of awful things that I experienced.

boringoldc · 12/01/2014 09:51

Join I don't think I have any hobbies either like I said in my original post, he has an obsession with people "needing" hobbies or it makes people boring if they won't try things out. I said some people don't want to, some people are happy the way they are, if someone tried to get him ice skating or pony riding he would tell them no thanks as he has no interest. It's like he thinks I NEED a hobby. Christmas time I asked for a candle making kit (i like candles) just to shut him up really as he made yet another dig at xmas, "I don't know what to get you as you have no hobbies" so I asked for that. He bought the wax and the bits that hold the wicks down and I haven't started yet so he moaned at that. I've been waiting till I get paid to buy scents/wicks etc! Nobody is rich after Xmas, especially since he has no income after redundancy so I had to fork out for all the presents this year.

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