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A one off, or more to come?

37 replies

OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 19:19

Hi, I am a long time reader of mumsnet and never thought I would need to seek advice but here I am! I will try to keep it as short as possible.

I have been with my fiancé for 18 months, engaged for 3 and up until this weekend I thought we had a fantastic relationship. I have 2 children from a previous relationship, he doesn't have any and neither of us has been married before.

After a great evening with friends on Friday we were driving home when out of nowhere he started criticising my time keeping and how the last couple of times I had been out with friends I had been an hour or so later than I said. He started going on and on about it at which point I asked him to stop making an issue of nothing. Next thing I know he is shouting at me and swearing at me, not letting me get a word in edgeways. It got so bad that I pulled over to the side of the road and got out and told him to go home to his house. (We don't live together.) I crossed the road and started to walk home and the next thing I knew he was running towards me shouting at me to get in the car. He then grabbed me by my arms and continued shouting at me to get in the car. I told him firmly to get off me and go home. He let go of me then about a minute down the road he pulled up beside me, got out of the car, grabbed me again and started to drag me towards to car, all the while shouting at me, I resisted and kept telling him to get off me. A car went by and he let go before screeching off in his car.

I was shaking and scared and walked home almost in shock, afraid of what I would find when I got home. He wasn't there when I got in but had been in the house, taken some of his things and gone.

I sent him a text the next morning, didn't want to speak to him, and asked what the previous night was about, how I had never seen him that way before and how scared he had made me. He replied that it wasn't as though he had hit me, didn't grab me and didn't even swear at me. When I questioned his version of events he apologised for swearing, said he only grabbed my arm to stop me walking away and was concerned and that he didn't want me walking home alone. I was flabbergasted. He said that if I thought he would hit me then I obviously didn't know him at all, he loves me too much etc etc.

My children's father was physically abusive so now I am left wondering if I am over reacting due to my past experiences? Was it just a one off and it wasn't as bad as I am making out? My head is all over the place. I have never seen him like this before, it was like being with a complete stranger. Or is this who he really is and the mask is slipping? I have asked him for space and he hasn't been in touch. Where do I go from here? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading if you got this far!

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JonSnowKnowsNothing · 15/12/2013 19:26

You do know you need to stay away from this person, don't you?
How the fuck DARE he put his hands on you?
Don't believe his bollocks about "being concerned for you walking alone." He was angry that you weren't doing as he wanted. Like some pet that needs to be trained.

Your kids AND you don't deserve another abusive male figure in their lives - please don't do it to them.

Cut him out of your life.

EQ2Junkie · 15/12/2013 19:28

Count your blessings he has shown this side after only 18 month and before you live together or marry.

He completely denied swearing and man handling you before making excuses about why he did.

He is making it all your fault that you thought he may hit you not due to his actions.

Get out now.

Hissy · 15/12/2013 19:30

The only way that this'll be a one-off is if you do the only right thing and bin him.

Now. Today. And never ever look back!

EirikurNoromaour · 15/12/2013 19:31

He's abusive, you aren't overreacting. Yes there will be more and worse to come. Please end it.

OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 19:33

Thanks for your replies. I wanted to make sure that I wasn't letting my past relationship cloud my judgement. I was single for 3 years before we got involved, though I have known him socially for much longer. I have never seen him like this before, he has never given me any reason to suspect he had another side to him.

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Maoamstripes · 15/12/2013 19:34

yep, another who agrees here.. started like this with me and now exP.. get out now. sorry you are going through this.. yes he is showing his true colours and yes there will be more to come, if you let it

Maoamstripes · 15/12/2013 19:35

yep the ugly side, once you know its there is hard to trust, I couldnt go back once i saw it.. :-(

Dirtybadger · 15/12/2013 19:35

No. Decent men (or women) don't do this. Once or more. He doesn't even appear sorry (not that it makes much difference). Ditch him.

Shlurpbop · 15/12/2013 19:37

Get away now. He sounds a nasty little bully.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/12/2013 19:44

You are now seeing the real him; he needs to be binned as of now. Again he has not taken any responsibility for his actions or even shown any real remorse for same.

I would also suggest you enrol yourself on Womens Aid Freedom programme as this is specifically for women who have been in abusive relationships.

OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 19:44

His reaction did make me think that I had possibly over reacted, until he started to back track and offer explanations for his actions. He has not put a foot wrong during our time together until Friday night. We have had arguments and fallen out, usually over how I spoil the kids or that I do too much for them, but I am a mum, its my job to!

Its much worse seeing it written down.

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FunkyBoldRibena · 15/12/2013 19:46

I agree; this is not good. Bin it now before he tried to wheedle his way out of it.

KepekCrumbs · 15/12/2013 19:48

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OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 19:52

Strangely enough, one of my friends said a few weeks ago that there has to be a reason why he had never been married or had children. The kids adore him, my family think he is wonderful, its such a mess.

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FunkyBoldRibena · 15/12/2013 19:53

He's been very clever then; waiting until he had the ring on the finger. Thank goodness it happened before you were married.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 15/12/2013 19:56

"We have had arguments and fallen out, usually over how I spoil the kids or that I do too much for them"

Another red flag, he would have made a truly lousy stepfather to those children and they would have seen him control you within their home. Think you have well and truly dodged a bullet.

My guess is as well your children only tolerated him because they did not want to see you as their mother unhappy.

JoinYourPlayfellows · 15/12/2013 19:57

He is a dangerous man.

You need to get away from him immediately.

Was he drunk?

Is that why you were driving?

Did he drive home pissed as well as his physical assault of you?

LaRegina · 15/12/2013 19:58

Doesn't matter that your kids adore him and your family think he's wonderful - they wouldn't think that anymore if they'd seen his behaviour the other night. They think it because they haven't seen the real him yet - so think yourself lucky and save them ever having to by keeping away from him.

Abusers never show their true colours early in a relationship. They rein it in until they think they've got you trapped. He obviously thinks that getting engaged is your 'trap', but you know it doesn't have to be.

Be strong Smile.

stickysausages · 15/12/2013 19:59

:( I'm so sorry OP. I'm inclined to agree though, that this is a red flag, a deal breaker in fact. Only positive I can see is that he showed his true colours now, rather than later Thanks

LaRegina · 15/12/2013 19:59

And btw I agree with Atilla about the other red flags.

CuntyBunty · 15/12/2013 20:00

LTB. If any fellow tried to grab me to get me in the car, he'd be limping for a month. I couldn't countenance being around someone like this and having them around my children.

ladygoingGaga · 15/12/2013 20:04

I'm sorry OP, but they can hide it for a long time, I was with my ex for over 3 years before one night he flipped, it was when I was standing up for myself in an argument just like you have described.

He has behaved deplorably, he has assaulted you, it will happen again if you stay with him, because by staying with him you are accepting his behaviour.

OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 20:07

He had a bottle of wine to himself, he is usually fine when he has had a drink, usually he does the driving and I have a drink. It was just so out of the blue.

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LumpySpacePrincessOhMyGlob · 15/12/2013 20:08

At least you don't live together. So sorry this has happened to you op, it's heartbreaking. You need to get rid of this man now. Peesonally I wouldn't like that anyone was criticizing how I bought my kids up either.

OperaWinfrey · 15/12/2013 20:10

I cried when I read your replies, I was hoping someone would say it was a one off and to give him another chance. I know you are all right.

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