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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Walking In A Winter Sober Land!

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Mouseface · 15/12/2013 00:41

Hello Brave Babes, I'm Mouse :)

Welcome to the 'Bus Of Fun' (now you've come of age!) Grin

This is a thread for those who want to give up drink completely, or are maybe thinking about doing controlled drinking, or cutting down slowly, with a view to quitting or not... it's up to you.

You know your limits, you know what is required, it's in your hands. And only you can make it happen.

Whatever your goal, you'll find support here. Always.

There will be talk of drinking and those who fall off the Bus (arse over tit) will post about it, so if that is going to jeopardise your chances of complete sobriety, then maybe the DRY thread would suit you better, as they are complete abstainers. :)

That said, this Bus is happy to have you no matter what, as long as you can cope with chat of drinking, nights out/in, failures, cyclical drinkers, etc......

Everyone has always been welcome here and shall remain to be.

No-one is ever turned away. EVER.

There are no hard and fast rules, other than the support here is unconditional, it may be in the form of tough love at times, but it's always meant with the very best of intentions.

There are two sayings that we like here -

    • The Vulnerable Need Our Support, Not Our Judgement
    • Alcohol Fosters Inertia

The rest kind of happens as the posts appear.

I hope that's okay with you all.

You'll find the last thread HERE, THAT WILL LEAD TO THREADS BEFORE IT, SOME HISTORY

And the original and real, truly heartfelt reason that we are here in the first place is HERE. A VERY SOBERING READ

The Bus may be 'mythical', but the support is real, honest and will help you to achieve what it is that you seek, as long as you are honest with us, but mostly, YOURSELF

See you soon. x

OP posts:
beachestoexplore · 08/01/2014 17:29

Alright, the last one isn't specific to not drinking.

I really really like that my sinuses are so much better.

babyjane1 · 08/01/2014 17:31

Hi dancer sending you hugs my lovely, lots of water and sweet treats and don't beat yourself up, we've all been there sweets, you've done so well, just a wee wobble. inside your so lovely, I totally smiled at your post, your a very lovely lady and have a kind word for everyone, thank you. why you continue to inspire me every single day xx

theeverydaydancer · 08/01/2014 17:53

Thanks for the hugs babyjane Smile I'm trying not to beat myself up about it but it is so hard not too. I had been doing so well this week and I'm so annoyed that I have ruined today by getting a massive hangover. I think I will need to take one day at a time I think.

ruralreynard · 08/01/2014 17:55

Not read back so apologies if I am butting in on someones crisis.
I have reverted to a bottle a day and am 3/4 bottle down.
However the extra stressful christmas season is ovver so please make room for me in the sidecar. Planning for day 1 tomorrow but we shall see.
Love to all Smile

whydidthishappen · 08/01/2014 18:00

You can restart your day at any point in anyday, any old day you feel like it dancer. Beating yourself up is living in the past, anxiety is living in the future, but if you are at peace you are living in the present. You know that old quote. Day at a time, my dear. And a day starts whenever you say it does.

Hey baby how you doing, lovely!

Can I get a check in from you im ?

ruralreynard · 08/01/2014 18:04

Thinking of you and Nemo mouse. XX

Crotchstitch · 08/01/2014 18:36

Huge hand holding to those struggling Thanks
To those still on top of DJ, this is day 8. That's over 1/4 of the way through :)
So, things I like about not drinking,

  1. I feel "better" in myself. This covers so many aspects of life rather than one specifically.
  2. I am noticeably more patient.
  3. My motivation is SO much greater than when I was drinking.
  4. Day to day organisation seems so much easier.
  5. DH has cut down massively too. He would be most unlikely to ever sign up to something like DJ as he would see it as pressure to give up. Drinking less because I am not drinking isn't like that.

Looking round the kitchen we still have loads of Christmas drink left, I haven't bought alcohol all year!

Noodles5 · 08/01/2014 18:42

Ok so here goes my list for reasons to give up the booze:
I too love the sleep- with my miracle tablets I can sleep for at least 9 hours a night
I can focus more clearly on what I need to do that day
I don't have the hazy recollections of who I have called/ sent a message to the night before ( and made arrangements to do something I will forget and then piss off that person)...or said something I don't mean
My house looks good!
I can devote all my energy on my daughter...and actually listen, rather than worrying where the next drink is coming from
I am a nicer person who people respond positively to!

X

Noodles5 · 08/01/2014 18:45

Oh...and btw if there was any alcohol in the house....I would drink until it wa gone! :)

Noodles5 · 08/01/2014 18:45

So croft stitch my hat goes off to you!

guggenheim · 08/01/2014 18:47

Evening babes

ooh lists...

  1. I've dealt with a lot of very painful crap from the past. Some of my drinking was because I didn't want to face it. That tactic doesn't work so well Hmm.
2.Sleep. 3.I can kiss ds goodnight without breathing wine fumes all over him.
  1. books,books,movies,books,books- can follow the story properly now.
  2. Self respect.

Any gorgeous babes beginning the nightly battle with the ww? How about answering this: Do you want 1 unit? As in a REAL 1 unit,not the glass size we all truthfully pour ourselves? Or do you want most of the bottle? If you really will stop at one unit,then go ahead. I know that I wouldn't be able to stop and that's why I try not to get started.don't worry about other evenings or what you will do at the weekend or on your birthday etc,just today.

Noodles5 · 08/01/2014 18:48

Sorry...meant crotchstitch!

guggenheim · 08/01/2014 18:49

Massive squeeze and best wishes to mouse and nemo

why d'you want me to come round and kick ss in the fanny? Giving me The Rage that is!

Love and good luck to all. Sorry for not nc throughly,will try to make more effort tomorrow.

Imdoingthis · 08/01/2014 18:50

Hi why Im finding it hard to post ATM, things are tough I have drank today, I will get through this.

Noodles5 · 08/01/2014 18:56

Beachestoexplore.....with you on this:)

SweetLathyrus · 08/01/2014 19:32

So busy tonight, had a good working lunch with a friend who was drinking, but has done DJ in the past so is completely supportive,. I decided before I went into the pub what I wanted to drink, visualising myself asking for it was really important, I didn't stop to think, just ordered the lime and soda. Simples! And, know what? Her wine smelt awful. I wasn't in the least tempted. Smile

My list:

I may have a stressful day but I DONT have anxieties
I'm sleeping through the night, and if I do wake up, I fall back to sleep easily
I'm practising my mandolin instead of just collapsing into a blob on the sofa
Sat and had a lovely hot choc and chat with DS after school, without wanting to rush home for a 'proper' drink
My breath is now like a summer breeze instead of summer drain

There are no downsides.

Off now to shower and do nails, sorry not to name check specifically, but keep it up everyone, and if you're on day one, or back to day one, don't think about what you will do tomorrow, just don't drink for tonight.

I've not 'met' Mouse yet! but I feel I know her through her posts! and my thoughts are with her.

beachestoexplore · 08/01/2014 19:48

Im love, Thanks of course you will get through, do post though, please don't feel alone. We know you are facing a tough week. X

rural!!! Grin

Hey noodle Smile great list babe.

Guggs I particularly like your self respect one. (Although a little bit scared of you with The Rage Shock)

crotch yey to 1/4 of the way! The days are beginning to line up now Smile

why it sounds like they are discrediting themselves, hopefully this will see their case begin to crumble. Well done on your ever amazing composure.

Sweet a mandolin! What you said about visualization was really interesting, picturing ourselves in new scenarios or preparing the picture to step into. A really good tool i think.

Talking of tools....Spanna where are you at chick? Grin

aliasjoey · 08/01/2014 19:57

My list:

Sleeping better
Not getting into arguments when drunk
Not getting acid reflux (which ruins teeth thru acid erosion)
Being able to go through the self-checkout at Sainsbury's without having to call a member of staff

And most importantly...

Much less anxious and worrying about will I/ won't I/ how much...

whydidthishappen · 08/01/2014 19:59

Im thanks for updating.

Hang in there. The conference is on Friday, yeah? Not long now my dear.

Please remember, sobriety is your last line of defence. He has nothing. This will get the ball rolling for you.

Mouseface · 08/01/2014 20:18

Evening, tis me, Mouse :)

A MASSIVE thank you Thanks to you all for your positive vibes and well wishes for today. Long story short, after keeping us waiting for over 2 hours, they decided NOT to do his MRI or his CT Scan because he is a grade 3/4 intubation (high risk and difficult basically, should they need to put a tube in his throat to help him breathe like during an operation) and that giving him sedation (that he's had shed loads of in the past) would be too risky, even though if he woke, they'd bring him out of the scanners. Hmm

I. AM. LIVID! Angry

They have his notes, they know all about him, they have a full and extremely detailed history, I give them updates each time we go.

So they should've been prepared. They didn't even know what he was having done when booking in!

They weren't prepared at all. We drove a 3 hour round trip for a 5 min kidney scan that we won't know the results of for months. DH took a day off work, Nemo a day out of school, I was up worried and anxious for him, scared that they'd find more things wrong..... And we have to do it all again.

There is going to be fireworks tomorrow.

Welcome to the new Babes who I don't think I have said hello to yet - Crotch, SweetL, Millie2013, Marvellous, ItsTheOnlyWay, BabyStepsx, Libertine, Casa, LookingForHope, Noodles, Dancer, PurpleS and anyone else! :)

PurpleSmurfette - I really hope you don't mind lovely, but I'm going to have to call you PuprleS or Smurfette if that's okay because we have a Purple already and I'll get sooooooooooooo confused!!

(BTW - If you are lurking HAPPY BIRTHDAY PURPLEWOLFE!! Cake Thanks xxx )

Beaches - hello lovely, I loved, loved, loved that list, I really did.... it's so great watching the days rack up, day after day after day :) One Day At A Time.

Spanna - I haven't read back properly but I hope you're okay? xxx

Why - how is that gorgeous boy of yours? I'm so very sorry for not being around for support, how are things? I saw the SW called you a lovely name Hmm With a bit of luck, that particular SW will get genital warts on their face. Grin

I'm - hey Mrs, how are things with you? Are you safe? How are the DC?

Someone mentioned dreams..... when I first stopped drinking every night, I had the most bizarre, vivid and to be honest rather bloody scary dreams at times.

I put it down to the fact that I was going to sleep (with the aid of Zopiclone) instead of passing out pissed and off my face, waking at 3am to pee, dripping in sweat, feeling like shite, shaky, wandering across the landing to the loo, gasping for water and then trying to get back to sleep knowing that I was getting up in another 4 hours....

That is of course, assuming that Nemo slept. Which he didn't and still doesn't. So dreams like that, on top of broken sleep was no fun at all!

I found that after a few AF days, things started to settle but if you are going to be AF then you have to STAY AF. Easier said than done. I know.

A quick update with The Mouse House, Christmas and NY were hard, not talking to my mum was dreadful on Christmas Day, the same on NY, it's my Dad's Birthday tomorrow and mine on Tuesday next week, as is Ma's I do believe? I'm sure I share my B/Day with at least one Brave Babe? Grin

I'm not drinking to numb my emotional pain, I'm not drinking to blank out losing my mum, I'm not drinking on a regular basis, but I drank over Christmas, with dinner, and NYEve, but that's it.

I have to say that I am VERY proud of myself Blush for NOT going straight back to my default setting of numbing the emotional and physical pain (Nemo is not sleeping so my pain levels are sky high) with vodka :)

Grief is a horrid, nasty and twisted thing, a very close friend told me that she knew that I was wearing a mask almost, still being a mother, carer, wife, etc, but that I wasn't grieving because I felt I had to carry on my many roles........ as if I wasn't 'allowed' to grieve.

She asked me to stop, STOP, be, stay and just think of her hands held out. So many miles apart, but she was there, holding my hands and I could feel her. :) Thank you dear friend, you know who you are xxx

You guys are amazing and I hope that those just starting out on your AF journeys can get to where you want to be. Even if you do 1 day, then 2, then 3, then 4 and fall off the Bus, get the hell back on! Seriously, the seat you have is yours! One day less a week is better than none.

Nothing is stopping you stopping, but YOU.

This Bus is full of support, advice, coping techniques for those who need them, sources of info but most of all, it's full of people who are alike.

Cyclical drinkers, sober posters, ex drinkers, those who are moderating, those who are drinking....... at any one time, we have ALL been where YOU are now.

Let's make 2014 a year of many wonderful success stories on this lovely Bus called Gerald!

BTW, who has the opal fruits? Where is Barry, who's driving and when did Gerald have his winter check up? Grin

Off to put the boy to bed and then I'll be back, sorry for the epic post Blush

OP posts:
PurpleSmurfette · 08/01/2014 20:19

Can I join?

My list:

  1. I don't cringe inside when I think of contacting my friends.
  2. My husband doesn't look disappointed and embarrassed.
  3. I remember everything I do (well, mostly!)

Actually that's pretty much it - I'm not a particularly frequent drinker, but a proper binge one, I just have no off switch when I start; currently sitting here trying to get the courage to facebook my best friend and see how much of a fool I made of myself last time. She's pregnant so it's not like she was even slightly tipsy to dull the effect! (last time I ended up crying on her for hours, no idea why)

(I know you have a lovely purple here, can I be your first smurfette? Smile)

Hugs to everyone today - I've read a few of the different threads and you all sound amazing xx

MrFMercury · 08/01/2014 20:22

Right I have a cushion to make and a scarf to knit and I am doing that and not even thinking about drinking. O yes.

dementedma · 08/01/2014 20:40

Wow, tons of folk to catch up with..
rural! Good to see you mate. Have this GS been awful with controlling twunt? One day..
purple happy birthday! Me and the wee mouse share a birthday next week. Its a biggie for me!
smurfette welcome
I'm and why hang in there girls. You will get through this.
beaches spanna soc and all the rest of you DJBs. Keep at it.
Day 8 nearly done thanks to becks blue. Will have to ditch it when boot camp starts next week but seem to need it at the moment

beachestoexplore · 08/01/2014 21:02

Crickey mouse that's a lot of words Grin, I had to stop mixing my brownies to read it! It is really good that you got through Christmas and New year without hiding in a bottle, it was always going to be such a tough time for you. It sounds like you will be rattling some chains tomorrow, so frustrating for you all to have a day like that. Anyway, it's really good to have you back Smile

smurfette perfect Smile

I love these lists, great idea isinde.

Happy Birthday to Purple Thanks

Hope you are feeling a little better dancer and you are still soaring baby.

Hi to all other babes reading. Smile

spanna41 · 08/01/2014 21:21

Evening all lovely Brave Babes

Day 7 here (one whole week) but what a day it turned into.

Briefly, picked DD2 up from school, went off to Vet appointment with our dog (she keeps licking herself in same place and causing raw skin, no fur etc) In the vets and DD2 collapses to the floor, eyes wide open, whacks the door as she falls down Shock Vet says looks like a seizure to me, go straight to hospital....so off I go to A & E like some mad woman. Daughter is not right but conscious, dog in tow too.... spend 4 hours in hospital.

I immediately wanted to know if you can faint with your eyes open (you can) so see nurse, did blood sugar levels, looked in her eyes etc. Hour and half later finally see doctor (knew in my head it wasn't bad otherwise we would have been seen much quicker (being child etc) Doc listens to heart beat then says she's not happy with a murmur she can hear Shock had to wait for another half an hour for ECG Sad Turns out she's fine. They think she fainted from the heat in Vets. Fuck that was scary! She's now all tucked up in bed, I will have to keep checking on her throughout the night, just for my own piece of mind.

I have not bought wine, which I would normally do after a crisis in order to relax, numb my brain and generally try to make myself feel better, I can't say that 'wine buying' didn't cross my mind. I am very proud that I didn't give in to WW Smile

Sorry had to get that out. Will come back in a bit to say hello properly Smile Think I will be a night owl on the bus tonight x