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How to deal with the fallout after affair

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FoxyTerrier · 23/11/2013 18:21

Am new here, but have been lurking for advice/support for a while. I need some advice/thoughts please.

DP of 21 years has had an affair. I am just stunned and wounded beyond belief. OW's husband called me from the other side of the globe to tell me 8 weeks ago now...am finding it so hard to process.

A bit of background: have 2 dc, been very happily together for ages...best friends and soulmates really. We had a business together, which has been hard recently, so DP went back to his old line of work 2 yrs ago. Cant go into loads of detail, but works from home, tho it's a worldwide company. Employees come together twice a year, a week at a time. He met OW who also has young kids, is married and she lives abroad. They bonded over a shared interest, and on return from the meet-up kept in contact by instant messaging. This progressed onto more flirty, sexual stuff and at the next big company meet up they slept together. They then continued to email/message daily, said they were in love with each other, etc...but couldn't see a way to be together...all a bit 'star crossed lovers' I guess. I felt something was wrong; was distant, uncharacteristically grumpy and arsey with me; but I just couldn't think why/who. Assumed it was work/my business pressures. He says he was guilt ridden.

Anyway, since finding out, DP has cut all contact and is nothing but remorseful. He is doing all the 'right things'...being in contact with me throughout the day, open with phone/computer passwords, loving, kind...back to his old self. He cannot explain why he let this happen; in fact, why he positively encouraged it and that once the bubble had been burst (ie. after OW husband phonecall to me)..it all just fell away and was rootless. He said he could 'see it for what it was'...and has no interest in it at all...I think it was thrill seeking initially, but I guess progressed into more. He almost wants to just move on, but I just cannot. We are reading 'More than Friends' at the moment and that is helping..he will talk and listen to me for hours about it. But I just get so angry at times...and I don't know where that comes from - I guess a flashback will set me off/image of them together..the thought of them having 'internet sex' in our house...the list is endless. I feel so raw and sad at times, and then completely warm and in love at others.. It's confusing and I don't know where to go next with it.

I am making it worse my looking online at a music site, that OW is on..I know that she is playing 'significant' songs (to them)...and lots of other stuff, that has very loaded lyrics...(it was music that bonded them, so I know this could be used by her as a weapon)..DP hasn't seen this site, but I have and it's driving me insane...I know I shouldn't torture myself with it..it sounds pathetic. But makes me think she's not over it.

Last night, I was prodding for more detail..it transpired they had sent each other naked photos of each other and it has made me feel sick to the pit of my stomach. I am in a bad place today and don't know how to dig myself out of the hole. We've made such a promising start, and now I think I might just blow it out, cos I can bare the thought of these pictures.

Any thoughts/help/advice would be so gratefully received. Have confided in one fabulous friend, but find it so hard to keep it together with work/kids/family etc.

Sorry this is so long....am amazed if you've got this far!

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Notnastypasty · 23/11/2013 21:47

Hi foxy, sorry to hear you're going through this too. I am 3 months on from finding out about my H's affair and have up and down days like you but have found some good strategys for coping I think and we have also just started counselling - I wasn't sure how much this would help but it had proved really useful so far. Feel free to private message me if you like.

FoxyTerrier · 23/11/2013 21:51

I am total agreement with that MistAll and I think he is aware of that. He is very fearful that I am about to pull the plug and is desperate for us to find a way through it (at least he says he is). The thing is, he was always my rock...I would've trusted him with my life, and it's hard when that is taken away and the person you immediately want to turn to, is the enemy (for want of a better word).

I just wish I knew what the motivator was...I just cannot imagine risking everything I hold dear for something so transparent and fake. Maybe I didn't stroke his ego enough...but I didn't realise he was an ego stroker type!!!

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FoxyTerrier · 23/11/2013 21:54

Hi Notnasty...thanks so much for replying. Do you go to counselling together or separately? Am so sorry to hear you are in the same boat...gosh, it's so depressing Sad. Not sure how to PM (am newbie!)...I will look for your thread though.

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Whatnext074 · 23/11/2013 21:59

If you look on the left of each post, there is 'message poster', click that and you can do a personal message or PM as it's known.

Minime85 · 23/11/2013 22:02

gosh I'm so sorry to hear everything u are going through. I agree with others who have said I would not want h to go on the trip. I just want to say too you are being incredibly strong to even try and work it through.

is there any chance of a few days away on your own just to stop and digest it all and have some proper thinking time?

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 23/11/2013 22:04

it's for him to find out why he did it

whining refrains of I don't knoooooowwww are frankly just not good enough

he did it because he wanted to, because he thought he could get away with it, because he thought he deserved an adventure with no thought for you

that's it, really

I hope he is not implying that you have any blame here

mind you, many women blame themselves so they do these shitty adulterers no end of favours by excusing them left, right and centre

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 23/11/2013 22:05

the "message poster" tab is on the right, not the left

Whatnext074 · 23/11/2013 22:10

Oh, yes it is, thanks Mist.

I agree, lost count of the times I've heard 'I don't know' from my H. There is always a reason. They just don't want to answer questions.

EXTERMINATEpeppa · 23/11/2013 22:54

mist

so true. The I dont know is an on going thing in my (now ended) marriage.

WHY DONT YOU FUCKING KNOW, PRICK.
is generally the reply.

How do you not know why you committed adultery with your wives best friend while she was asleep in bed? the mind boggles

Telling the truth, I blamed myself THEN I joined a site where a load of mardy cows Wink truth tellers, straightened me out & gave me strength, encouragement & support to remove myself from my abusive marriage & start fresh.
they could have picked better timing instead if the month before christmas but... I am eternally grateful.Smile

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 23/11/2013 22:58

peppa, that is fucking awful Shock

EXTERMINATEpeppa · 23/11/2013 23:03

and he wonders why I wont take him back.

Btw- the 'friend' told me, after 2 months, as they made a pact not to tell me.

nice. I move next weekGrin Grin Grin

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 23/11/2013 23:07

Good for you x

EXTERMINATEpeppa · 23/11/2013 23:09

well I am very excited as I treated myself to cath kidson wallpaper for being all independent & shit haha.Grin

worsestershiresauce · 23/11/2013 23:10

I'm sorry you are going through this. I've been there too. I'm one of the ones who has made my marriage work, but agree that if you chose this route the running has to come from him. It won't work otherwise. It can't.

Would you be able to accompany your DH on the business trip? I wouldn't usually recommend baby sitting, as it is not a solution to anything, but as a one off in the circumstances you have described it might be a workable compromise.

FoxyTerrier · 24/11/2013 08:49

Sorry I disappeared last night...had to sleep! Thanks so much for all your replies....it really helps to have some other input. I am driving myself insane with just turning over the same information.
The 'I don't know' bit is doing me in...he has agreed to write everything down so he can remember timings, etc. Maybe that will help...I keep looking over the last 18 months and remembering lovely times we've had together (as a couple and with kids) and that just makes me cry...it was all a lie. Whilst we were together, he was secretly wishing he was with someone else and probably messaging her behind my back - just don't know how he could do that? I feel as though they were taking the piss out of me, with their secret identity emails and cosy conversations that he should've been having with me.

I also have an overwhelming urge to email OW and give her a hard time...is this normal? I know it's a bad idea..but I feel she has got away with now knowing the devastation she has caused me. It seems this is never a good idea if I'm to retain a modicum of dignity!

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FoxyTerrier · 24/11/2013 09:15

Blimey, once I get going with questions, I cant stop...and given that I usually just get an 'I don't know'...it's so hard to process. Am just wondering...how could you consider leaving someone you allegedly love, after 20 years? When you've only actually spent the equivalent of what, 3-4 days with this other person in the flesh...although, obviously a lot more time online. I just don't get it...he cant really know 'the woman' that she really is. Aaaagh...it's all so bloody ridiculous.

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Vivacia · 24/11/2013 09:23

How does your husband react to your questions? Is he getting impatient yet?

mrshap · 24/11/2013 09:43

Foxy this is a horrible time for you, I would like to say that it will all be ok, but its a long haul if you stick by him. You will never feel the same about him again, he has broken a little bit of your heart forever. However you need to learn that your happiness does not depend on him anymore, and in a way that thought is quite freeing! Try to do something nice for yourself every day..

MissScatterbrain · 24/11/2013 09:51

Get Shirley Glass's Not Just Friends and Julia MacDonald's How to Help your Spouse Heal.

Do not bother contacting OW. Its your H who made promises and vows to you and he is the one who betrayed you.

killpeppa · 24/11/2013 09:51

FOXY

not recommending it but I did email the OW & told exactly what I though of both of them & how disgusting they were. It helped-a bit otherwise Id go crazy with what I would want to say to her.

Shes bloody lucky she lay down & took it otherwise I might have really gone for it.

talksomesense · 24/11/2013 15:21

Speaking from bitter experience as an OW, I find it difficult to understand the kind of man who declares love to another woman and then drops her like a hot brick the moment it all comes out saying it all just 'fell away'. Sounds like crap to me. He's either a complete arsehole or he is in contact with her when he's at work spinning her all kinds of yarns about why they can't be together.

Vivacia · 24/11/2013 15:25

I think that there's a good chance, talk that the OW is often the bit on the side, a bit of fun, titillation or at best, an escape from real life. When this is the case, it's why the OW is dropped like a hot potato as soon as the wife finds out. If the OW is anything more than a fuck on the side, the man would leave his wife and kids for her, wouldn't he?

talksomesense · 24/11/2013 15:32

Why, then, would a woman, foxy in this case, want to stay with a man who treats women like 'fucks on the side'?

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 24/11/2013 15:37

This is what I can never get my head around. Why do women stay with men who have demonstrated such profound disrespect, not just for their wives but for women in general

I wouldn't want to be married to a man like that, full stop

JoinYourPlayfellows · 24/11/2013 15:53

"I just cannot imagine risking everything I hold dear for something so transparent and fake."

Oh, I can.

The fact that it all happened in another world, in a way, makes it seem exactly like the sort of stupid bullshit I might do if I wasn't careful.

There was never any point that his affair actually intersected with his real life with you. He only ever met this woman when he was miles away from home in a weird temporary universe.

The ideal situation for playing out fantasies of the kind of life you might have had if things had turned out differently. Which doesn't at all mean that you wish they had.

Although I see you now say he was thinking of leaving you for her?

That's pretty weird, but I suspect it was all just part of the whole load of self-indulgent nonsense as the rest of it.