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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Stepping Into Christmas With Sobriety On Their Minds.

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Mouseface · 16/11/2013 13:41

Hello, tis me, Mouse Smile

This is a thread for those who are worried about their drinking habits, relationships with alcohol, and/or drugs.

Even if you think your intake has gone up more today than the last or this week than last, come and join us on Gerald, the amazing, always room for more, fully stocked with glorious treats and donned in his Christmas Decorations, Bus!

We are a supportive thread, full of very different posters, from various backgrounds. Some of us drink in moderation, allowing ourselves the odd glass or two as a treat, or just because we're in control of our drinking for that day.

One Day At A Time.

We have those who abstain completely, and those who wake every day to Day 1 and hope with all of their hearts that they can, and will, make it to Day 2.

If you've followed our journey to date, you'll know who most of us are by now smile and we kind of have two 'sayings', that sum up who we are -

    • The Vulnerable Need Our Support, Not Our Judgement
    • Alcohol Fosters Inertia

That said, we will not have any bashing of support groups, such as AA or Community Addiction Support Teams, or even other support threads, posts like that will be reported if the need arises, so 'Orange Paper supporters' don't waste your time please :)

This Bus is a place for honesty, sanctuary and safety, something that has taken almost four years for a number of very special, very lovely, very honest and caring Babes to establish.

So, come find a seat, grab something warm from the supply cupboard at the back of the Bus, it's filled with (non alcoholic or narcotic) delicious, luxury treats and HUGE fluffy quilts, plus anything else you might need to help YOU get through YOUR day a minute, or an hour at a time.

And, if you'd like to see where this all began - This Is The Reason We're All Here, The Original JWN Thread

And This Is Our Previous Thread, With Links To Those Over The Past Few Years

We hope to meet you soon :) x

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guggenheim · 27/11/2013 18:56

Just checking in to send some sympathy and hugs to I'm and mouse

I'm fucking exhausted and feel like having a big glass of wine. The WW keeps telling me that I've been sober long enough an deserve a drink. Well,I'm NOT drinking today. Will worry about christmas when I get there.

AS you were lovely babes I am fine but working stupid hours. not going to use being tired as an excuse for a drink at this stage.

Lots of love and strength to you all.
I haven't had any time to scratch my bum post but have managed to keep up with reading posts,hope you are all well and up for joining me in an af evening tonight? Bugger tomorrow Grin

aliasjoey · 27/11/2013 19:33

guggs I'm with you on being exhausted but not using it as an excuse to drink. The new working hours are starting to catch up with me. Actually too tired to worry about alcohol! Which is nice.

Mamabear74 · 27/11/2013 19:38

Hi babes. I feel the need to confess. Got through day 12 yesterday but will not see day 13 through to the end. I am halfway through a glass of wine. No reason excuse, just the old "permissive behaviour" getting to me. I've been so good! I had to pop out for a couple of ingredients for dinner tonight & knew as I headed out I wouldn't pass the wine section unscathed. So I looked for a tiny bottle, thinking that would keep me "safe", then they only had a 3 for a fiver deal on those. So because its a few ml off a whole bottle I justified it and there you go.
Maybe if someone gives me a stern telling off I will resist one or both those little bottles in the fridge for the rest of the night. I am sipping slower than usual, and noticed the first 3 or 4 sips tasted quite sour and alcoholic. Amazing how much nicer tonic tastes in comparison! Sorry about the me me me post, I know a lot of you are struggling with a load of shit that I don't have in my life, I feel like I am going to disappoint you all.
dancer fucking well done on a whole af week! i'm do wa have any advice for dealing with police & your horrendous situation re ex?
Hi to rural, spanna, venus, soc, ma, alias, looking, isinde, nuff, guggs, baby, why, beaches and the legendary JWN!

Mamabear74 · 27/11/2013 20:01

OK, confessing seems to have done the trick, I did finish said glass but poured myself a very satisfying tonic and lime. A bit disappointed that I ruined my good run but pleased I won't be getting sloshed tonight & having to face being a hungover terrible mum tomorrow. Thanks for putting up with my drivel, enjoy your evenings lovely brave babes. Mwah!!!

Mamabear74 · 27/11/2013 20:05

mouse, fanta, any other gorgeous babes I missed, I'm sorry. Hope you're doing ok tonight!

guggenheim · 27/11/2013 20:42

Hi there joey and mama- I can manage a mini nc.

Good luck with the increased hours joey, I'm sure you'll manage really well. Get a cleaner and hot gardener with the extra wages.Smile

mama 12 days is really,really good. Having 1 glass tonight will probably satisfy your curiosity & then you can have another few af days (or not,as you like)

chitofftheshovel · 27/11/2013 20:56

wow, mama you had a glass of wine and then switched, in your own home. I think that is really bloody good.

I was proud enough this morning that I 'only' drank 3/4 of a bottle of wine last night, most unusual - usually the house gets drunk dry. So I can feel a shift. Just have to get past the passing of shops and thinking 'yeah, I really need a bar of soap right now' only to get out of the shop with a bar of soap and a bottle of wine - it is so bloody accessible!

Well done to those not joining us for a glass or two tonight, and those who are don't beat yourself up, our time will come - we're on the bus, it is a damn fine start.
x

dementedma · 27/11/2013 21:47

Back in the sidecar. No AF days this week.
Got a posh awards dinner on Friday and could hardly for into my "back up" fat dress tonight when I tried it on. Wonder where all the calories are coming from? Hmmmmmm
Off to London on Saturday for 3 fabulous days without dh or the dcs. Can't wait. Will do Camden market on Sunday, meet sis at British library on Monday and don't k ow what on Tuesday. Really looking forward to the break. Work is crazy...had a 3 hour meeting with the CEO today to try and develop some strategic stuff. His comment " can someone pick up my calls for a bit, I'm in a meeting with Ratbag" didn't help! Grin

Imdoingthis · 27/11/2013 22:26

I'm waiting for police they said at 10.30!

Imdoingthis · 27/11/2013 22:27

So scared I don't wAnt to do this

Mouseface · 27/11/2013 22:37

Hello, tis me, Mouse

I have read back as much as I could through my tears. I knew that this was a very special place to be, albeit a Bus named Gerald etc - but WOW! All of the many words of kindness have been so moving and those of you who have posted on my thread in Bereavement too; thank you so very much.

If no-one minds I'd like to go into a bit of detail as to what happened and how we went from Friday and me packing a bag for a week's stay in Manchester, to being at home again, motherless, by Saturday night.

By all means, don't read on if you will find it too distressing but you're all my friends and mean so much to me xxx

Some of you may know that my mum had MS for a long time, it went undiagnosed for years, she also had diabetes which was a more recent illness but also suffered from lots of other little complaints/illnesses that meant her quality of life was never going to be as good as it should have been.

From a very early age, my mum gave up lots of things to make sure my sister and I were always clean, warm and fed. No matter what that meant to her.

She was left by my feckless sperm donor (who has made NO contact since her passing btw Angry) when I was almost 3 years old and it was just us, my sister and mum until she met my wonderful father when I was 9.

At first I resented him because I thought that he wanted to take her away from us but soon realised that he was in fact my hero. He let us move into his house, took such good care of us all, we had holidays, food whenever we wanted it, new clothes, went to the zoo, parks, did things as a family that we'd never been able to do because my biological father didn't care......

I always said that I wanted to find a man like my dad and I have.... DH is my hero, just like my dad, and to see him (dad) as he is now, without the love of his life is heartbreaking.

Mum was a real fighter, nothing would ever let her stop what she wanted, years of illness, misdiagnoses, pills and potions, operations, she beat the lot.

Every single battle, even cancer.......But not this time, this time the battle was just one battle too many. She was admitted with a chest infection that turned out to be one of the most aggressive forms of lung cancer, (Adenocarcinoma) and Lymphangitis. She was absolutely riddled with it.

Walking onto the room on Friday and looking around, the first thing I noticed was that there were no monitors or drips, no alarms, no tubes, just oxygen. It was then that I knew, mum would never walk out of that room ever again. Sad

I've been talking to dad for hours and my family, I'm exhausted and have to go and do an Annual Review for Nemo's Statement.

And my mobile has stopped replying to texts, I've been told it needs resetting which means losing all of Mum's texts. I can forward them to DH, but they'll come from him and not Mum Sad

I need her. I want her and I miss her.

I can't do this.

I can't let Nemo say to me when I tell him we're going to see Grandad on Friday when we go to the hospital that Grandma won't be there.......I told him last night, "It's just going to be Grandad on Friday"

He replied - "Did Grandma XXXXX (Surname) die mamam? Is she dead now?" and I said yes. I lay next to him silent tears soaking his pillow and my face. Pleading for him to sleep so I could leave the room. He's been off school poorly today and we enjoyed the snuggled time together.

Tomorrow I have to put my mask on as he has his Annual Statement Review..... I could quite easily not go but I have to keep fighting his corner.

I have to keep going, one step, one day, one minute at a time.

I really miss my mum and I want the pain to stop..... so far, I'm sober but I can feel the pull of the numbness calling.

Sorry to be so shit and weak.

So many Brave Babes....... Keep going!

Night and I'm sorry to bring the thread down. xxx

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venusandmars · 27/11/2013 22:42

mama well done on stopping, that is such a difficult thing to do. But here comes the kick (you asked for it Grin )... What are you going to do with the rest October the bottle? There are lots of things you could do - freeze it in ice trays for cooking (to prevent you buying another bottle) or put it away somewhere or give it to a friend. But my honest advice is to pour it away. Take it now and pour it down the sink. Notice how sour it smells, notice what a waste it is, notice how foolish you now feel about justifying your spend earlier. And resolve not to feel so uncomfortable tomorrow. Tomorrow drink tea or water or juice. Notice how clean and fresh they smell. Notice how little they cost and congratulate yourself on another good decision. Smile

venusandmars · 27/11/2013 22:44

I'm sorry I missed your post. Stay strong, it will soon be over xx

venusandmars · 27/11/2013 22:52

mouse there is nothing weak about you and how you are dealing with your grief. Through it all you continue to be the best Mum you can to Nemo and to your precious dd. THAT is the best legacy that your dMum left - that you too are a great mother. Whatever texts get lost, whatever physical elements have gone, she lives on in you, your Dad, your sister and your family. Because she showed you how to love.

Mouseface · 27/11/2013 23:01

venus - I can't do this, I can't say goodbye. I can't. I'm going to bed before I make a tit of myself anymore xxxx

Thank you venus xxx

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bailstersmum · 27/11/2013 23:34

mouse sending you and your family my condolences and love. Rest and let your loved ones take care of you and don't push yourself too soon. Hopefully you will draw some comfort from the fact that your mum saw you grow into the wonderful person, mum, wife and daughter that you are. Also, that you were able to be there with your mum towards the end x

beachestoexplore · 28/11/2013 01:22

Bless you little Mouse Sad.

It was such a sudden ending for you all, it must leave you wondering what the hell has happened. Perhaps someday this may be a comfort to you but trying to make sense of it now must be so hard. From the way you describe your mum, her courage and her determination, it sounds so like you, the you we see here on the bus. I am so sorry you are suffering. It is a devastating loss and she was clearly a beloved mum. Xx

Im babe, hope all went well with the police. Thinking of you too. X

SocFish · 28/11/2013 03:09

Big hugs to mouse and I'm. What brave babes there are on this bus.

love Soc (who snuggles up to Demented in the sidecar)

I'll be back though. Drinking sucks.

venusandmars · 28/11/2013 08:22

I'm hope things are ok with you.

Fairenuff · 28/11/2013 08:24

Mouse I would like to echo what beaches said, about your description of your mum being very much like you. And she lives on in you and your sister, in Nemo and dd. She gave you all life and now her time on this earth has come to an end.

You were not ready to say goodbye, and you probably never would have been even if she had lived to be very, very old. Because she is your mum. And you want her, you need her.

It was all so sudden too, so you will be in shock. Rest when you can, drink sweet tea, eat little nibbles of whatever you can stomach. Keep your support network around you. You can come here and talk anytime you like, you know that. Your thoughts, feelings, worries, hopes. If it helps, write them down. Maybe write her a letter in your mind?

She is free from pain now. She saw you with your wonderful dh and lovely family, that must have been such a comfort for her. Even though she didn't want you to move away, she just wanted to hang on to you, like you want to hang on to her. You have a bond and that bond will always live on. I'm sure she was proud of you, how could she not be, she raised a kind, caring, intelligent, strong, beautiful woman. What more could any mother want x

aliasjoey · 28/11/2013 10:02

mouse thank you for coming on and letting us know about your mum. But don't feel you have to update us if you'd rather not. It's up to you, either way we are here to support you.

You have been so strong for everyone else, you take care of your dad and your kids, it is hard to let yourself grieve when you want to look after everyone.

Not sure what else to say, I haven't been in your situation but I totally admire the way you are handling it. Don't be afraid to lean on other people.

guggenheim · 28/11/2013 10:06

mouse thank you for taking the time to post- must be very difficult to find the words. I'm sure your mum was very proud of you and your family. I'll light a candle and think of you and your mum- hope you don't mind.Keep posting babe we all want to support you.

I'm please can you let us know what is happen as soon as you possibly can? Hope you are ok.

Hi to all babes

ruralreynard · 28/11/2013 10:12

mouse what faire says is sooo true. You will get through because you are your mothers daughter. Both of you have all those qualities faire mentions. Your DM is out of pain now but of course your tears will still fall because you have the pain of having to carry on without her. mouse you will find a way and you have your lovely family and of course all of us here to give all the love and support we can.
Look after yourself big hugs xx

ruralreynard · 28/11/2013 10:19

Im hope you are ok babe.
BFF last night so didn't finish day 7.
Drank 3/4 of a bottle, no reason, just because it was there I guess and that bl**dy WW was shouting louder than ever. My excuse to myself was a glass will help me sleep. The insomnia was getting to me tbh.
Managed to stop myself finishing the whole bottle but that was hard.
Anyway slept well but feel like shite this morning, much worse than the sober insomniac mornings.Sad Blush.
Back on the bus this morning.
I will not be drinking today.
Love to allxx

babyjane1 · 28/11/2013 11:26

mouse if my daughters grow up as strong, kind, wonderful and as exceptional as you I will go to my grave and rest in peace when my time comes, your mother will do the same I'm utterly certain, my tears fall for you xxxx

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