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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Kicking The *Wine Witch* Into Touch, Because Enough Is Enough!

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Mouseface · 23/10/2013 23:16

Hello, tis me, Mouse :)

This is a thread for those who are worried about their drinking habits towards alcohol, or/and drugs.

Even if you think that you are drinking more tonight than last night or this week than last, come and have a chat, find a seat, we don't bite! Wink

We are a supportive Bus, full of very different posters, from various backgrounds. Some of us drink in moderation, allowing ourselves the odd glass or two as a treat, or just because we're in control of our drinking for that day.

One Day At A Time.

We have those who abstain completely, and those who wake every day to Day 1 and hope with all of their hearts that they can, and will, make it to Day 2.

If you've followed our journey to date, you'll know who most of us are by now :) and we kind of have two 'sayings', that sum up who we are -

    • The Vulnerable Need Our Support, Not Our Judgement
    • Alcohol Fosters Inertia

That said, we will not have any bashing of support groups, such as AA or Community Support Teams or even your own GP.

This Bus is a place for honesty, sanctuary and safety, something that has taken four years for a number of very special, very lovely, very honest and caring Babes to establish.

So, come find a seat, grab something warm from the supply cupboard at the back of the Bus as it's going to be cold tonight! Brrrr!

And, if you'd like to read back over some of our history, HERE IS THE LAST THREAD

And, HERE IS WHERE IT ALL BEGAN

We hope to meet you soon :) xxx

OP posts:
PurpleWolfe · 07/11/2013 21:39

Cough, cough.........Oh, dear, where am I?? (Seems Faire is dressed as a goat...........? )

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 21:44

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ee odl lay ee odl lay hee hoo

PurpleWolfe · 07/11/2013 21:49

Grin Grin Grin !!!

dementedma · 07/11/2013 21:50

That racket is going to wake horrid baby doll.....shhhhhhh, I hear tiny creepy footsteps.

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 21:52

You lot are bonkers.

Talking of which, where is Isinde. Hope the ww didn't get her... or the doll Shock

PurpleWolfe · 07/11/2013 21:54
dementedma · 07/11/2013 21:55

I know, god knows what the newbies think.
Please don't be put off by the nonsense. It helps us all in our daily battle with alcohol.
mama and the babe who was after my green opal fruitsfruits and whose name escapes me - are you still with us?

spanna41 · 07/11/2013 22:17

Nuff yum thank you, just what I needed. Ma yes still with you, hanging on to the edge of my seat! Not sure I want to go anywhere near the dressing up box? Unless there's a costume that will scare the WW away.
'there's no place like home, there's no place like home' oops sorry wrong film - Doe a dear, a female dear. Laaaaaaaa..........

Got a headache, sure this can't be a hangover after 4 days AF???
Good night babes joining the PJ brigade xxx

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 22:18

It was spanna and I think they're both tucked up like Charlie's family in Charlie and the Chocolate Family. What was Charlie's surname?

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 22:19

Ah x post.

Come back tomorrow, we are not always this silly, it just passes the time sometimes x

dementedma · 07/11/2013 22:20

Head aches are common around day 3 or 4 as your body withdraws from the alcohol. Hang in there.
And don't go near the dressing up box..... Especially after dark!

dementedma · 07/11/2013 22:21

Farley?

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 22:29

Bucket.

whydidthishappen · 07/11/2013 22:42

Most people associated with the case seem to think it will be another 4 months before I have my son back. So Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year, and his first birthday all without me.

I have not slipped once. I have nothing but excellent reports from my out-patient treatment, from my parenting course, from the life-skills class.

I'm at a loss for what else to do. Social services are stumped.

Christmas without my baby or husband will be interesting. Just me, at a homeless shelter, eating turkey slices with strangers.

What is really funny is that from 2003-2011, I spent every Christmas morning volunteering at homeless shelters, doing the dishes for hours on end.

Maybe I'll ask Santa for a nice bit of rope for Christmas.

spanna41 · 07/11/2013 22:45

Silly is always good Nuff, laughing and smiling is so much better than crying.
Ma what happens after dark with the box? where is the doll? she sounds really scary.
Really tired but don't think I'm going to sleep for a while (bummer!)
Think I'll wait for the night shift, if there is one?
You've kept me going today babes
Looking forward to day 5 - can't believe I've got this far Grin

spanna41 · 07/11/2013 22:47

sorry Why Xpost
How awful Sad

Fairenuff · 07/11/2013 22:54

Why you can do four months. I know it seems like a lifetime but maybe it will help to focus on what will happen after that. When you have him back and have all your days with him. You are sacrificing one birthday for decades of birthdays. When do you get to see him next?

Spanna I'm off to bed now, it does tend to go quiet here overnight but if you want something to read, click on the link to the first ever thread in the OP at the top of this page. All the inspiration you need is right there.

whydidthishappen · 07/11/2013 23:09

I see him tomorrow for 2 hours.

When my husband and I ask, "how can we move this process along", people just say 'keep doing what you are doing'? Great. For how long?

Why should I not get to see my son even for 1 hour on Christmas Day? As soon as this case is over, my husband and I are thinking we should probably just move back to my home. If one more moron with an ignorant NY accent tells me to "have a nice day" after telling me that while I have surpassed all things asked of me, their "hands are tied", I think I might go postal.

Isindebetterplace · 08/11/2013 00:02

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Haggismcbaggis · 08/11/2013 00:51

Hi everyone. May I join you?

I am day 5 a/f. At the moment slowly trying to address my drinking problems - instead of blanking them out/ making excuses for myself.

A big turning point has been reading "Drink" by Ann Dowsett Johnston - she guest blogged here and I ordered her book. It resonated with me massively - as has reading this thread and everything you have all said. It's an amazing examination of the relationship women today have with alcohol. And makes me very very scared for my two daughters.

I am the daughter of an alcoholic father with lots of alcoholic relatives. I am mortified to find that I too have fallen victim to this substance that I thought I could control. Of course my drinking was oh so different to my Dads - it's openly done, in my lovely home, with naice wine, in lovely wine glasses. Because nowadays its "ok" to drink at home more or less every night.

On Saturday night at a bonfire party I was so obsessed with having enough wine. So cross when my DH poured me a smaller glass than his (I have a gimlet eye for getting a ml less than anyone). When we got home I poured myself another massive glass to make up for not having totally free access to wine. and then another and so on. Anytime I am out with friends I am constantly seeing how much wine we have left. Being the one to pour it. I've snuck wine from my DHs glass when he's out if the room, topped my own glass up on the QT.

I have had the sore liver feeling described by someone in the thread. And I have recently started getting double vision when out on big social binges. Yes - actually blind drunk.

I hate that feeling of self-loathing when I wake up having drunk on a night I said I wouldn't. And being ratty with my kids in the morning because I have been drinking. And drinking in front of them.

So - what to do. The thought of a life without alcohol scares me & saddens me. The thought of holidays without alcohol, meals out etc. but if I can't learn to drink like a normal person - then abstinence beckons.

I am thinking of trying the following:

  • not drinking in the house either alone or with DH
  • drinking socially and to celebrate. Not for sad reasons.

But I was raised on AA theory - in which case I should be aiming to cut it out entirely.

I hope you are all well tonight. Sorry for the ramble. It's the first time I have ever written down that I am most likely an alcoholic.

SocFish · 08/11/2013 03:43

Hello Haggis Welcome to the mayhem. First post is the hardest, but just jump in and post. Everyone on here is nuts apart from me. A lone voice of sanity and reason.

Your story is almost identical to mine. None of my friends ever seem bothered about the amount of wine or if their glass is empty. My entire being is focused on getting as much wine into me as possible. I'd start drinking in the afternoon, finish a bottle and then open the second and pretend that I had just had a glass when my husband got home. And then pass out (because I was 'tired') at 7pm so never saying good night to the kids properly etc. And waking up every night at about 2am feeling absolutely awful and guilty and just hating myself.

I've gone almost a month free and then slipped up and am now on day 7 again. I feel amazing. I can't drink in any controlled way. The first few days I find complete hell and eat my body weight in chocolate. But the fog is clearing and I'm more determined than ever. Sobriety is sooooooo much better.

I find reading blogs, buses and other threads enormously helpful. I also go to AA meetings even though I'm not 100% sure they are for me, but at the moment I'm trying everything. I diarise my drinking on drinking.diary.com and get all excited about the turquoise squares. It helps to see it visually - for me anyway.

Good luck and stay on the bus. It really helps
xxx

SocFish · 08/11/2013 03:47

why big hugs. Sorry this is still going on for you. xx

Anneisnotmyname · 08/11/2013 07:55

Hi day ten, never got this far ever so hoping I don't sabotage myself. Been working late the past two days so will read back after the school run. Wishing every one a happy Friday :)

Haggismcbaggis · 08/11/2013 08:01

Why - I have been following what you are going tho on this thread. Obviously I don't "know" you Smile but I wish you much luck in being reunited with your family and hope the visit goes well. Puts my small woes into perspective. And how amazing you stay a/f throughout. Stay strong.

Socfish thank you for the welcome! And well done on all you have achieved. Fantastic. Do you go to closed AA meetings or open ones? I've looked up their websites but not sure what the deal is.

SocFish · 08/11/2013 08:56

haggis not sure. I'm in Australia so not sure whether they have open or closed ones here. I just drag my sorry arse to a meeting and sit there and listen and certainly find inspiration and support there. Nothing like being amongst people who totally get it.

Anyway, Friday night here and I'm irritable. Don't feel like drinking but not sure what else to do! Might go all out and have a hot chocolate.

Actually think I need to have a bath and get into bed rather than sit around feeling annoyed that I can't drink. Don't really want to, but also irritated that I can't. wtf is that all about.

This time last week I was completely wasted and woke up on Saturday feeling mortified, guilty, sick and everything else. It will be nice to wake up tomorrow feeling good. Rambling now.

I'm off. Good luck with Friday everyone.
xxxxxx