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Relationship with MIL - warning, long...

30 replies

mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 21:55

Me and DH have a 4 year old dd and we're lucky to have quite a close relationship with both our sets of parents. They both live about 15 miles away.

However it seems that every few months there is a big emotional drama with us and mil and I really want some advice on what to do next this time...

A bit of background:
When dd was a small baby she stopped talking to us overnight and when we got to the bottom of it, it was because I'd been spending a lot of time with my Mum (she was off work as she'd had a hysterectomy - "it's alright for some" was her reaction) and my Mum had seen her in the street and invited them, and all of us, for Christmas dinner. Mil took this as we'd all arranged something behind her back (I didn't even know my mum had mentioned it!), things kicked off so bad that we did as she wanted and we had Christmas dinner round at her house with dd.

Since then, every 6 months or so, some comment will cause a similar upset. For the past 2 years we have made a real effort to ensure that we spend MORE time with her than with my parents, she looks after dd on a Monday so that she gets to spend 'quality Nana time' with her (we are of course very grateful - I often leave her flowers, always a cooked tea, we do tell her how much we appreciate everything she does), etc.

A few months ago she was ringing DH every day and worrying how tired he looks (she is always saying how ill/ tired he looks); his Dad came round one night to 'have a chat' because someone had phoned our house on a Monday when we were not there, she had answered the phone and it was a cancer charity, so she had been up all night fretting - does he have cancer and he's hiding it???! (We have a small direct debit to said charity so yes, they were ringing for my husband).

A couple of months ago she fell out with DH because 'they never see us'. She said 'I only have one son at the moment' (DH has a brother).

Tonight me and DH had been at DD's first parents evening. I went off to a fitness class and so DH came home and met his Mum. Apparently dd had said "Daddy's stupid", to which she had said that's not nice, we don't say that. DD had said "Well Mummy said it". I probably have, when we've all been messing around together, or he's done something daft. Mil then went on to say that my family all have something against dh (news to him, and me), then she went on to say that when she had seen my sister the other week she'd made a funny comment about dh. I think they were getting a car seat out of her car and she'd said "Don't break it, you know how particular he is!" (which he is). Dh gets on like a house on fire with my sister and knows absolutely that she would never say anything about him with malice. She then started going on about the usual (apparently we spend all our time at my parents', do lots of things with them, they don't get invited to anything), left the house and drove off.

This weekend we spent the night at their house on Saturday night with DD. We sat up until 2am chatting, laughing and putting the world to rights - me, dh and PIL. Me and MIL made a special pack-up for dd on Sunday morning as it was her dancing show. We all had a lovely lazy morning together lying around in our pyjamas. I had talked about organising for us all to go to the panto at Christmas then have a games night at theirs, which she seemed really enthusiastic about and I was going to be booking it tonight when she'd had a look at dates. So from that to this.

The only other thing that I can think may have set things off this time is that my parents came to watch dd in her dancing show yesterday (as it happens it was sold out, grrr, but by the by). I've asked Mil about bringing her mum to see dd in the show in the past as she would love to see her great-granddaughter in it but she said she didn't exactly want to sit through all the other dances and it wasn't really their cup of tea. So maybe dd mentioned that my parents were up here yesterday. To be honest, if we had spent the whole day with them, cooked them Sunday dinner and not just an hour I'm sick of feeling guilty about spending any time at all with my parents in case it upsets her, if this is what happens anyway!! I can't believe that in the space of 24 hours since we were there yesterday things can change - potentially triggered by two comments made by our dd. To suggest that my whole family hate dh is madness (they love him).

I gave her a ring but they ignored my calls. I left a brief message asking if she was ok, I'm concerned, give us a ring back. FIL rang me back and said that she's just stressed. I now wish I'd talked to him a bit more about what she'd said as I find it quite upsetting.

DH said he's sick of being the one to talk to her when this happens and it obviously doesn't work. I have no idea what to do now but taking things the wrong way, hearing one thing and coming up with 4, the stress this is causing (tonight should have been about our dd's parent's evening and we've ended up arguing) - it just can't carry on. I make such an effort and this is what happens. Do I try and speak to his Dad about it? Write an Email to her to read?

If you've read this far, thank you! And I appreciate there are worse problems to have. TIA for any replies :-)

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FunkyBoldRibena · 21/10/2013 22:02

I missed what happened between your parents seeing their granddaughter dance and now...what happened?

mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:03

Tonight mil's kicked off x

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mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:04

she's looked after dd after school tonight while we were at parents evening

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FunkyBoldRibena · 21/10/2013 22:04

???
But what actually happened?

Jellyrollgumdrop · 21/10/2013 22:04

Sounds jealous to me!

mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:07

She had a lot off to dh, saying that all my family apparently hate him and have something against him and that they never get invited to anything, we never see them.

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FunkyBoldRibena · 21/10/2013 22:09

But he surely said 'you are seeing me now - look I'm standing right in front of you, you saw me yesterday, stop being a drama llama'. You are allowed to see your family as little or as much as you want...if you keep pandering to this you are never going to have control of your life.

mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:13

Yeah, he tells her like it is and says what needs to be said; I encourage us to pander to her a little more as it's family and I want things as harmonious as possible... to be honest I'm a lot calmer not; I was feeling very pissed off when I started writing that as some of the things she's coming out with are actually getting that we could really take quite offensively and they're totally untrue and conjured up out of things that were never meant to offend.

I think what we need to do is actually give her time to cool off herself and be the one to ring us instead of the other way.

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mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:14

*calmer NOW that should have read!

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GoodbyeRubyTuesday · 21/10/2013 22:15

Honestly, you are doing more than enough. It seems like spending time with your parents would be much less stressful than spending time with MIL, and you ought to be able to see your own parents as much as you like! Even if you had had theM over for Sunday dinner, there would be no need to feel guilty, that is a perfectly acceptable thing to do. She is clearly very jealous and insecure but she is behaving unreasonably. I think you and DH need to sit down first and talk about things, and how you want to move forward. She is coming between you so you need to present a united front. Personally I would just leave it for a few days so she can calm down and then DH could speak to her. She ought to know better than to take the word of a four year old as gospel anyway!

humphryscorner · 21/10/2013 22:16

Stop giving her special treatment. You have done nothing wrong. You are enabling her to continue with her selfish,childish behaviour and your own parents are suffering for it.

Don't ring her, let her contact you and apologise for her bad behaviour . If they stay away for days, weeks, months - let them. Its pathetic.

My MIL disappeared for a week when I gave birth to DD2. I didn't want anyone one else in the room when I was in labour apart from DH. Apparently she was present at all her other DGC. She couldn't deal with not being allowed.

My labour ended going tits up and getting pretty scary and I was took for an EC and DH was quite traumatised after, he called to tell his DM that DD was here to be told by her she was out of the country.

Deal with this now as it wont get any better honestly.

mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:17

Thanks GoodbyeRubyTuesday.

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mrsmusic · 21/10/2013 22:19

And humphrys - will follow this advice. Thank you so much.

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Wishfulmakeupping · 21/10/2013 22:23

She sounds like hard work!! Is she insecure its her issue not yours not your DHs stop making allowances for her weird behaviour.
I'd ignore her altogether, she craves the attention don't give it to her

cloudskitchen · 21/10/2013 22:27

It sounds like the more you give the more she'll want. You should live your life as you want to and let her get on with it. You'll never make her happy.

LunaticFringe · 21/10/2013 22:41

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EldritchCleavage · 22/10/2013 12:25

I agree with what people have said already. MIL seems to be turning this into a weird competition.

I encourage us to pander to her a little more as it's family and I want things as harmonious as possible...

Don't, really. I honestly think that with people who behave like this, pandering does not bring harmony, it only brings more bad behaviour.

Why not sit down with DH and think about what kind of contact you and he want to have with each set of parents, and then just do it. No need to negotiate, argue or defend yourselves (you sound as though you have a lot of nice contact with both sides), just do it. And ignore your MIL.

AllThatGlistens · 22/10/2013 12:29

Erm.. Honestly? Stop pandering to her.

I understand your intentions, and as well meant as they are, whilst she's allowed to get away with this sort of behaviour, it will continue.

Why should you need to ensure your parents see less of their grandchild to keep your MIL happy? In that way madness lies!

You don't have to accept this, it's unhealthy, and must be so draining on you having to constantly out her needs first Flowers

AttilaTheMeerkat · 22/10/2013 12:34

Hi mrsmusic,

Re your comment:-

"Yeah, he tells her like it is and says what needs to be said; I encourage us to pander to her a little more as it's family and I want things as harmonious as possible"

You need to adopt your DHs approach; presenting a united front is of paramount importance with regards to such awful people.

I can see why you do this because you think you are actually dealing with someone who is emotionally stable and can ultimately be reasoned with. You after all come from a family where this type of familial dysfunction is unknown. However, MIL is not built that way and she is quite happy to try and get you to run rings around her. These people also do not apologise and never accept any responsibility for their actions. Her enabler H (that is what he is doing here because women like your MIL always but always need a willing enabler to help them) said that she will ill with stress!.

Pandering to such bad behaviour makes these types of dysfunctional people far worse. Let the woman and her enabler of a H stew in their own juices. This is all about power and control really; your MIL wants it all her own way all the time.

Anniegetyourgun · 22/10/2013 13:18

May I just add, well done your DH for being able to stand up to them. It was good of you to encourage him to keep things pleasant, but as that approach has proved ultimately unsuccessful (as Attila says, it only works on reasonable people) it's time to adopt Plan B as outlined by... pretty much everyone above. One should always try the nice way first IMO, as you did. It's not your fault she didn't respond to it nicely.

Nanny0gg · 22/10/2013 13:19

Stop pandering to her and find someone else to look after your DD.

Nanny0gg · 22/10/2013 13:20

And you're lucky that your parents are happy to be sidelined in favour of what appears to be, a spoilt brat.

Tulip26 · 22/10/2013 13:30

She clearly loves her DS and GC very much and wants to be centre of attention 24/7, albeit negative or positive attention.

It sounds like she is a very jealous woman, perhaps she lived through her sons until they grew up and now she doesn't know what to do with herself. It also sounds like perhaps she has underlying mental health issues, or maybe just doesn't understand how to share?! It's very child-like behaviour, wanting to be centre of attention all the time and refusing to compramise.

NeedlesCuties · 22/10/2013 20:29

I needed a lie-down after reading that epic OP, was long! Halloween Smile

I can imagine your MIL sitting in her living room with a sheet of paper counting up the hours on a weekly and monthly basis that she sees your DD vs the amount of hours your DParents do. Mad as a hatter.

There isn't anything you can do about her unreasonable attitude so to save yourself, your DH and your DD any heartache it's best to just let her cry and stomp. In the long-run pandering to an unreasonable person = stress.

Do you worry about how she behaves around your DD, or is it just her being cheeky to you and your DH that irks you? I think sitting her down, maybe with FIL and talking to her is the best bet... but be prepared for the possibility that she just won't want to hear it.

minsmum · 22/10/2013 21:00

The thing is, whatever you do she will get upset so you might as well do what you want

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