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advice please - he's coming back tonight...

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sadelephants · 21/10/2013 14:26

I've been with dp for seven years. When we met I didn'treally want to go out with him but we worked together and we're both single, lived in the same town etc and he made lots of flattering promises like 'oh I'd marry you tomorrow if I could' as well as making himself very helpful like doing some diy or finding a garage to get my car fixed (I am very apprehensive about dealing with workmen, I'm always worried they'll see me coming and rip me off).

We've always had a difficult relationship, I wanted marriage and kids and a family home, he always claims he wants that too but it was four years before he agreed to move in together, five years before we got engaged and we had dc two years ago. Living together, getting engaged and having dc all only happened because I said I wanted to end the relationship unless we did those things - yes, with hindsight it was stupid to insist these things but I wanted to either end the relationship or move to the next stage.

In truth I feel unhappy. He's s very pessimistic, grumpy and unloving man. He's always been like this but he's always insisted he loves me if I speak of my unhappiness, he makes me feel ungrateful, he starts crying if I try to end the relationship etc. He does a lot of housework and treats me like I wouldn't be able to manage without him (though I was fine before I met him). He has a go at me if I haven't straightened the bed spread to his high standard, even though I have done my best - why would I intentionally anger him?

If I hang the washing whilst he's out, he re hangs it when he gets back as I haven't done it properly :-(

He insists the tea towel always be hung on the cooker hood when not in use. At the weekend he opened a cupboard and some plastic pots fell over, so he started tutting and swearing, I knew he was blaming me for putting them away wrong (I probably did :-( ) later he said when we move house I can't choose any of the design ideas, paint etc as I have poor taste and he's better at design.

We had a big row (again) at the weekend, I tried explaining that everyone is entitled to their opinion and way of doing things. So the following morning he picked up the tea towel as I'd left it wrong, threw it on the floor and started angrily wiping it with his foot, saying he wasn't going to bother anymore, everyone is a #unt etc. Then he spent twenty minutes doing some work on his laptop, muttering fucking c##ts all the time, it wasn't directed at me but it's s very unpleasant environment to live in. He has got steadily worse over the years.

I asked him to leave, he wouldnt, as I've said I want to break up and am unhappy so many times before he doesn't take me seriously. So I changed the locks when he was out. When he got back I let him in, but only to get some overnight stuff. He did a big teary goodbye to dc (aged 2) and went.

Does this relationship sound healthy? over the years I've told him I want out do many times, I'm unhappy, I find his behaviour uncomfortable (I'm actually a bit frightened) so why does he stay with me? I'm worried he will give me the guilt trip when he returns tonight and I'll end up taking him in :-( he's claimed to have serious illness before etc to get me to take him back.

Thanks for reading x

OP posts:
BibbleBabbleBobble · 25/10/2013 10:07

To me it sounds like you've had a lucky escape.

cloudskitchen · 25/10/2013 11:28

He's probably giving you space to miss him then he'll be back in with the manipulation! stay strong and enjoy the breathing space Thanks

sadelephants · 27/10/2013 22:10

Thanks Bibble and Clouds. He came back today to pack up some boxes. He said several times that he was 'joking' with some of his past behaviour, that he hadn't meant it when he said I had poor taste in interior designand wouldn't be allowed to choose any furniture etc when we moved as I'd detract from the value of the house. How is that a 'joke'?!

He has told me many times in the past few days that he can't believe we've split up, we're meant to be together etc, also keeps trying to persuade me to move into his new house when he's bought it, I won't need to lift a finger etc

I keep trying to remind myself (and him) of all the arguments, that we don't love each other etc. It is hard though :-(

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mineofuselessinformation · 27/10/2013 22:35

OP, re-read your post on the 25th....

mineofuselessinformation · 27/10/2013 22:35

And then Clouds on the same day. Look familiar?

HissyFucker · 28/10/2013 06:20

Oh nine did all that with the disbelief that it was over.

I thought we'd be together forever, I thought you'd always be there, I loved you as much as I loved my mum...

Yeah well you 'punished' her too for remarrying, refused to see her etc, until it was too late too.

I'm not you mother, if you abuse me, i'm going to end it. You did; I did.

Stay strong. It's their contempt for us that they never think we've got the strength to stand up to them, so abuse, abuse, abuse, only backtracking when called out.

You're out, stay out.

sadelephants · 28/10/2013 09:59

Mine - you and Clouds are absolutely right. It's such a shame to have to endure all the manipulation. I have re read all comments as a reminder, it's hard not to be naive sometimes.

Hissy - thanks, what is the next stage in your experience? Will he give up the 'super nice' behaviour in a few weeks and try something else? Or will I have toendure a lifetime of him trying to persuade me back?

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HissyFucker · 28/10/2013 13:57

A few weeks? He could try another tactic at anytime, expect the unexpected!

He may get angry with you, frustrated that you won't do as he wants you to, he may strop off, threaten suicide, or getting himself another woman. Whatever he thinks will work to get you back in the very same place he had you in, or worse (never better)

If he does try the i'll kill myself bollocks, suspend all visits, without saying a word to him either, and call the police and report his cry for help. A few visits from the boys/girls in blue and he'll give that up too.

On no account EVER allow yourself to be drawn back in.

Côme and post here, but don't respond.

Keep strong, we know how hard this is.

HissyFucker · 28/10/2013 14:05

Oh and love, you're not naïve, this guy's a master manipulator!

Don't blame yourself, you trusted someone who couldn't be trusted. That was his choice too.

Have you got the Lundy book? It's really good at helping you see that none of it was about you, and therefore totally frees you from all this pain and guilt.

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