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My sister has got herself in a right mess, not sure what to do?

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looneytune · 20/06/2006 14:42

Where do I start??? (sorry it will be long)

Last year my sister mentioned to me that she'd been seeing a married bloke who she knows from school (he drops his kids off). I tried to point out what would probably happen (she's also married with 2 kids) but she had it in her head that she wanted to move in with this bloke she's been seeing for 2 weeks and live happily ever after with him and her kids. I told her that it will be messy blabla and she said 'oh no, ds is best friends with his ds, they'll love living together' Shock - cuckoo land!!! Anyway, tried (in nice way) to make her see sense but never got through. I told her I thought it was great she was getting attention again (as she'd gone from size 24+ to size 12 figure) but that's all I thought was good about it.

Anyway, this is about a year ago (ish). Her dh found out ages ago and so did the rest of my family. The boyfriend and his wife split up and the rest has been pretty much hidden from the family (my parents are just trying to help but she's been getting a lot of advice about working it out with her dh and sorting her life out but she obviously doesn't want to hear it).

In the last week or so, my family have discovered her dh's blogs (online diary for those who don't know) and have been keeping an eye out. Lots in there which has made us aware of the latest situation but I won't go into that.

What's worried me is that last week my sister sent a text to my mum to pass on to all the family, basically saying sorry for everything and a kiss on the end. This worried me, my sister doesn't do kisses. She's taken overdoses before and so it made me think. I tried to get hold of her but couldn't but part of me thought it would be ok as she's an attention seeker anyway and has taken overdoses before and then told us straight after - this is her way of getting us on side without having to apologise about stuff.

Anyway, after reading the blog, we discovered that indeed she had tried something on that day. It looks like she took an overdose (then threw up) and cut her wrist - lots of blood on towel etc. We're pretty sure that she's done this as she now has realised she wants to stay with her dh but she's run out of chances and he won't have her. I'm pretty sure she didn't actually mean to end it but just to make him feel like he has to take her back.

Anyway, he's not having her back but sounds like he's trying to help her sort her head out. Well, last night she moved in with her bf as she's the type that just won't try it alone.

I'm really worried she's lost all grip with reality and don't know what to do. She wants custody of the kids yet has been staying 2 hrs drive away and not getting back to take kids to school even though promised. Her xdh is very lucky that work are understanding about his lateness but he must be careful. So, she wants custody but is never there for her kids and did herself harm - I'm afraid my sister at the moment is an unfit mother and actually better off with their dad :(

I can't get through, only by text and when she replies, it's just I'm ok and kisses - she's covering up. I want to offer my brother in law support but am not supposed to know what I know and he's not a fan of our family since xmas (long story) . Don't know what to do. He's having trouble with school runs/work and neighbours have been getting involved but starting to get p'd off about it (know this from blogs).

What do I do??? Do I just be honest with him and say I know and can I help or should I keep out.

This is my neice and nephew - haven't seen them for ages now :(

Sorry it was so long!

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heavenis · 26/06/2006 09:47

I've seen JellyJelly's thread,give her everyones best wishes.

looneytune · 26/06/2006 18:09

Janos - you have hit the nail on the head!!! AND, tough love is exactly what she got. I basically (without a row, all calm) told her she has 2 options:

  1. Move back to area and live near the kids (doesn't have to be same town but local enough) and they stay at same school

  2. If she really has to, she sets up home where she is staying (2 hours away) but the kids stay at school and their dad looks after them during the week.

That's it. No moving the kids away, NO WAY!!! She admitted kids have said they don't want to leave school. She says it a crap school, I said it doesn't matter, the kids need to stay there for now (and it's not actually that crap) where the teachers know them and can see if they are in need of extra TLC, they have friends they know and they are familiar with the surroundings etc.

She was worried about people thinking she's just upped and left the kids, I said she'd be a much worse mother for just taking them away from everything they know at a really tough time!

She's gone away to think about the 2 options but agreed to keep kids at school. I hope she doesn't change her mind!!!

She basically wants to move to get away from the gossip and because she wants to be with this bloke (oh yeah, who's on bail until next month for assaulting his wife!! sister says he's not like that and she's setting him up blabla)

She wants to move away as really wants to be with this bloke and he will only live in the new area where his parents are. I was saying that if he loved you as much as you say he does, he'd consider what's best for you and your kids too!!

Oh yeah, she needed £5 for toll bridge and mentioned taking money out of her kids account as skint. Couldn't find their bank books so asked me. I said no! I'm not going to give her anything as she needs to learn to stand on her own 2 feet for a change !

Sorry to go on, don't know why I'm putting it all here?? Suppose it helps me remember everything as it's always changing!

BTW, she said she won't be back this weekend (no cars and no jobs between them!) so she's happy for me to have the kids. Just need to re-check with BIL.

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jellyjelly · 26/06/2006 19:12

Thanks heavenis, doing ok but he is being such an arse sorry looney for stealing the thread but it was so good to talk earlier. I need all of you.

looneytune · 26/06/2006 19:23

No probs Jelly, hope it helped to get some of it off your chest. Just sent an email about a night out so let me know!

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tribpot · 26/06/2006 19:29

Great news you can have the kids this coming weekend, looneytunes. Sounds like they could use a bit of normality, the poor little things

Does your BIL know the new bloke is out on bail for assault? I would never allow my children to go and stay with such a person - I'm sure you wouldn't either, and neither would your BIL. (Mind you a friend of mine in Sweden was involved in a paternity battle with his ex-gf and she basically 'decided' that the dad of her dd was someone who was in prison for murdering his ex-gf and her new boyfriend, quite why anyone would think this person made a better dad than my friend, I could not say!)

Your poor niece and nephew, I feel so sorry for them. Give them a big kiss from me (obv do not say 'this is from some woman off the internet' )

heavenis · 26/06/2006 19:48

Glad you were able to talk to your sister,fingers crossed she doesn't change her mind.
JellyJelly, I can't find your thread is it still going or have you started another one. Everyone is here to support you.

Janos · 27/06/2006 09:23

looneytunes so glad that you saw your sister and things went well. So glad she has decided not to uproot her children! And as for this new bloke...oh dear.

Well she is an adult, isn't she, and her children aren't. It's her choice to get involved with this man, not theirs.

"She wants to move away as really wants to be with this bloke and he will only live in the new area where his parents are. I was saying that if he loved you as much as you say he does, he'd consider what's best for you and your kids too!! "

Quite right.

My heart goes out to all of you, especially your neice and nephew. They are lucky having you to look out for them!

looneytune · 27/06/2006 09:34

tribpot - I'm presuming BIL knows, in fact, I'm sure as he was silly enough to help my sister locate him (long story) as he was worried about her (even after everything she's done to him!). My sister said she was planning to get her own place and not live with boyfriend but be near him. I found that really odd as I never thought she would EVER go alone. She may have just been 'saying the right things' iykwim but anyway, no, I don't think BIL would let kids go there with him there! PMSL at the kisses and cuddles from 'some lady from the internet!'

heavenis - thanks, i hope so too!

Janos - thanks, I'm being tough to help and I think she understands that. I just hope the boyfriend doesn't get her to change her mind as he has a way of changing her whole outlook on things from one day to the next!

My brother and I have got our heads together and are planning some nice things for this weekend!

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Janos · 27/06/2006 09:43

I hope you all have a great weekend together looneytunes

looneytune · 27/06/2006 09:59

cheers, me too! just been chatting to BIL online and he's agreed so it's all on and the kids are really looking forward to it he said!

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heavenis · 27/06/2006 10:09

They'll have a lovely time. BIL will be able to have some time to himself.
I hope things continue going well for you all.

looneytune · 27/06/2006 10:37

Thanks

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looneytune · 01/07/2006 21:41

Well, today a major success with kids, big smiles!! Not for my bank though!

We were all supposed to be staying at my brothers house tonight and most of us are, just not my brother - he's picking my sister up as she's been kicked out of boyfriends. The kids are a bit confused and some of the stuff they have been saying has made me realise just how much they are aware of, stuff I'm surprised about and also shows how much it's affected them Anyway, they've all had sweets in bed (I don't do sweets myself but it's a special treat as the 3 kids haven't seen each other for so long etc).

Weird being in my brothers house with no brother . Now just on Mumsnet hoping the last 2 fall asleep soon!! (it's bloody hot though!)

Anyway, will be interesting to catch up with my sister when she gets here or tomorrow if she ends up back with xh.

I was bullied a bit on another thread for not supporting my sister but I was in my own way as I knew full well this would end up happening. I hope now things are out in the open and she's heading back here, me and my brother can help her work out what she wants to do and maybe get her the help she needs!!

Don't know why I'm saying all this, suppose it's because I'd usually chat to dh but I'm all alone here (well, alone as in no adults )

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tribpot · 01/07/2006 22:00

Glad the kids have had a lovely day, looneytunes. That's what really matters.

Sounds like things are even more tumultuous now, your sis clearly needs help and maybe now she'll face up to that.

looneytune · 01/07/2006 22:25

Yeah, they had a great time and we've still got tomorrow morning!

Hopefully we can help our sister sort herself out. Not sure if she'll try again with xh?? [whispers] reason she got kicked out is because she told new boyfriend (during England match) that she slept with xdh last weekend whilst here

Anyway, will be nice to see her tomorrow!

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tribpot · 02/07/2006 11:29

Was that she 'fessed up during the match (I thought talking was banned) or what she'd been up to that was the kicker?!

looneytune · 02/07/2006 17:17

I don't think the timing of her announcement helped but I think it's more to do with her going behind his back. He's had loads of affairs I've discovered and obviously finds it's perfectably acceptable to do what he has done but doesn't like it being done to him - TOUGH!!!

I don't know full details as I only saw my sister briefly about an hour ago when I dropped the kids back and of course we couldn't talk with them there. My brother and I were up til 4.30am talking about it (he didn't get home til gone 1.30am) and I found out things like the bf's mother had once said to my sister 'you're killing D seeing the kids you know' - FFS, she was trying to make my sister feel bad about seeing her own kids!!!

It sounds like this bloke and his family had a really big hold over her. She's basically admitted she's totally messed up and doesn't know what she wants, but she won't be going back to wales.

After the fight there, the bf said that my family are all in for it. What a xxxx!!!

Anyway, will call my sister tomorrow when her kids are at school and so are my ds and mindee. See if I can help her work out her next move, well, work out what she needs to decide first iyswim. The main problem is the house sale is due to go through any time so they need to stall and sort of decide whether or not selling the house is the best move right now.

Anyway, she's back with people we know now. A BIG relief.

As for those people having a go at me on the other thread, wish I hadn't got myself all worked up about it and doubting myself as a sister. We were right in what we were doing as we never thought it would last as she was so confused.

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heavenis · 02/07/2006 17:29

Glad thing went ok with the children. I did do a message for you and JellyJelly in chat.

looneytune · 02/07/2006 17:37

bless ya! have replied to it!

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Janos · 02/07/2006 20:04

So glad that things are working out well looneytune, must be a big relief to have your sister back.

Also glad you had a good weekend with the kids...sweets in bed, what a treat!

Hope you get to catch up on some sleep soon.

jellyjelly · 02/07/2006 20:19

I never look in chat will have to pop over.

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