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Just can't make him happy

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lonelywife · 30/07/2013 11:55

Long time lurker here, hoping for some clarity and not sure where to start.

Married for 3 years, together for 7, 2 dc 2 and 8 (from my prev relationship). Went to relate for over 6 months, things haven't changed. No extra maritals or anything dramatic, we just can't make each other happy.

Sometimes I look at other couples laughing and joking together just being natural around each other, poking fun etc and it makes me feel utterly heartbroken to know I'll never have that. DH is very straight laced and cynical, I find it difficult to be myself around him. He's very uncomfortable in himself and anti social, I am very outgoing, never find it hard to talk to new people. He won't talk in public, like he's in commuter mode permanently, scared someone might look at us.

Our weekends are always ruined by his moods, a simple 'are you ready to leave?' when we go anywhere causes an epic sulk and he says he's being picked on, behaves like Kevin the Teenager basically. Constantly moaning at the kids to be quiet (they aren't badly behaved, just normal happy, excitable children). He talks to me like I'm an irritating work colleague most of the time, conversation is a struggle. We have no mutual friends and he won't come out with my friends. He doesn't do anything around the house at all although I can't really complain about that too much because although I'm not quite Waynetta Slob, I'm no Martha Stewart either. He tells me I'm beautiful a lot but we have sex probably less than 10 times a year. He doesn't seem bothered at all. Its awkward and I've stopped seeing myself as someone that anyone might find attractive ever.

He resents that I can't earn as much as he does, hates that he's the 'breadwinner', hates his job, hates the responsibility and no matter how many times I explain that working daytimes would mean I'd earn less because of the childcare costs, he doesn't seem to get it, just thinks its unfair and brings it up time and time again. He hates that I love my job. But then he says that he loves and wants his family more than anything.

We've talked about things a lot but not much changes, we need to move but that won't happen for a year or two. I'm so confused.

This weekend, I was trying to talk to him, just chit chat, we were in town, he just walked off pushing the pram ahead while I was halfway through saying something. He does that a lot but for some reason, this time it just upset me so much.

Despite all of this, he's a good man, he loves the kids, he loves me in his own way. I feel like I'm living half a life.

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lonelywife · 06/08/2013 11:01

Last night was just horrendous.

I asked him about work and looking for another job, applying for more than just one etc and he brushed it off said he was dealing with it in his own way etc I walked into the kitchen and just broke down. We talked for hours and I told him everything, it was just awful. Felt like I was giving him a complete character assassination, he said that he felt terrible about everything would do anything to put it all right, that if he was making everyone miserable he would just leave if that was what I wanted, that the reason he's made things so difficult with my business is that he's jealous that I'm doing something that makes me happy when he's miserable.

That was just gutting, I've put my heart and soul into building it, so that I have some independence (he said he'd lost respect for me after having our youngest because I didn't have any), something to be proud of, do something that I'm passionate about. It's always been my ambition and not having any confidence or support in it has meant that its been so much harder and I've not promoted it as I should/would have done, all because he just couldn't be happy for me.

Said that he just wanted me to give him some hope that we could work through it all, I said I just don't have it in me to hold the hope and optimism for everyone, I've just run out of it. I can't pretend to know what's going to happen, or continue to be the one coming up with solutions or how I'm feeling to make anyone feel better anymore, I've spent my life doing that.

It all feels so hopeless. Feel totally heartbroken today. Like I'm in limbo for god knows how long waiting for him to get another job and see if that makes the difference or waiting to see how each weekend goes to see if there is a difference there. Just waiting to see if he's going to fight for it all really. Am exhausted with it.

This was a really bad time to have given up smoking.

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wundawoman · 06/08/2013 16:46

So sorry for you OP Hmm, he sounds like a nightmare!!!

Tbh I think he feels so bad about himself, he has to bring you down too. It's not about your ex, or your business, he will resent ANYTHING you do, just to create friction!!!

You should be proud of setting up your own business, don't let him put you down - I think he is jealous of your work ethic and success!

I would give him an ultimatum - 'grow up and act like a adult' not a spoilt child! If he wants to retain the relationship, he needs to make the effort, not 'walk out if you want me to'.

You sound like a lovely person who has worked hard for your family and OH, don't lose your self-respect. You deserve better...

Hugs xx

CircassianLeyla · 06/08/2013 18:46

I have read with interest. I am glad you have managed to have that conversation OP.

You posts resonate with me, but I have decided for the most part to adopt Cogito's suggestion in the first post of leading my life with the DC and if he is there he is there etc.

I fully expect to get divorced one day but for the moment I cannot deal with the family break up and fall out.

Good luck Op and thanks for the thread, so glad I read it.

SolidGoldBrass · 07/08/2013 14:47

Throw him out. He is determined to make you miserable; what this is all about it 'training' you to accept that he is your boss, your owner and should be revered as a god: he has to convince you that you are bad and that you are inferior to him.
He will not change.
Please do remember that it's fun to dump a man and fine to be single. You are not responsible for his wellbeing.

welshharpy · 07/08/2013 15:30

So basically he said he is jealous of your business and success so YOU have to fix that for him (wtf??) As for the 'I will leave if YOU want me to' crap he obviously expects you to end the relationship because he doesnt have the balls to do it himself. Wow, he sounds like an immature, miserable twat to me. Sure you would be much better without this drain on your family life xx

CallMeBetty · 14/08/2014 11:17

Resurrecting this zombie thread because I wanted to update you all one year on. You were right, things didn't change I had my heart broken by him so many times and in so many ways that I just didn't have anything left for him anymore. We were going to move as a last ditch attempt at savaging things but as we were in the process things started to turn even more sour. Not sure if I mentioned before but he wouldn't sleep with me either. Ever. I was very lonely and humiliated by the end.
He became more and more obnoxious and dismissive of me and so i confronted him. Told him I wasn't prepared to leave my life behind and move away with our marriage the way it was and that he should go if that's what he wanted to do, so he did.
He got himself a house (like I'd always desperately wanted for our children that he said we couldn't afford), a car (and left me with a broken one he refused to pay to fix) and I found out the extent of the money he was keeping for himself while me and the kids went without.

That was about 6 weeks ago and I haven't missed him for a single day. He speaks to the kids every day and sees them at weekends. I'm just getting my money, tax credits etc set up and am redecorating the house and concentrating on the kids.

I've met a man. Way too soon and the timing means that there's every chance it might not end well but he's utterly lovely, has no interest in getting involved with my family life (I've told him that's a no go too) and if I was to write a list of everything my perfect man should be, he'd be it. I'm sure reality will kick in soon and he'll get on my nerves and it won't work but I'm having so much fun and taking things slow. I feel like I'm living again!

There were a couple of people in similar situations and I'm wondering how you are now, are things the same? If they are be brave. There's a life out there waiting!

tipsytrifle · 14/08/2014 12:32

So good to hear that you have regained your life, Betty! I just read your thread not realising til now that it was last year, got to the last few posts and was about to burst with anger at your now ex ... when your excellent update sorted everything out!

Take it very slowly with this new man but definitely enjoy him!

CallMeBetty · 14/08/2014 12:54

Thanks so much. It's incredible to me now how bad things were and how much I was missing out on! Until I wrote this thread I hadnt even considered that separating was an option.

Jan45 · 14/08/2014 13:08

Fantastic!

Glenshee · 14/08/2014 13:14

Wow. Thanks for the update. Well done you! xxx

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