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DP, his kids, money, his attitude, just don't know if this is going to work out :-(

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Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 09:05

This weekend was awful. I was at work Saturday 7am - 8pm. I developed a headache mid day which began to develop into a migraine by late afternoon. I soldiered on but by 7pm it was unbearable. I felt sick, hot, head was pounding - I felt so ill that a colleague didn't want me to drive home. I did - only just made it, ran into the front door, to the bathroom and was promptly sick. I felt like death. DP came in to see if I was ok - showed a little concern but was more bothered about the fact that he'd wasted a load of food as he'd prepared a bbq for me and his kids (access night), his eldest had ditched him in favour of his girlfriend (again, 3 weeks in a row now but at 18 I'd say was to be expected!!) and I was obviously as sick as a dog. So he only had himself and his youngest son to feed. I apologised (not sure what for!) and said I'd try and eat something later. He then started moaning that he'd been on his own all day and had felt lonely and depressed Hmm wow - he shows no concern at the numerous times I'm on my own when he agrees to do overtime or bugger off for a weekend etc but because he was left on his own (he's 41 btw, not 4) for a whole day Hmm I was expected to feel sorry for him.

After an hour of laying in bed I managed to drag myself downstairs (only because I heard DSS2 asking if I was ok and when would I be coming down, didn't want him to think I didn't want to see him). We decided to put on a movie and watch it, just the three of us. Very nice - apart from DP kept buggering off to sit at his pc in the other room leaving it just me and dss. How can he have a go at me about leaving him on his own when he chooses to go and sit by himself when I'm there!!!

So that was saturday night. Sunday morning dp goes and sits on his pc as soon as he gets out of bed. DSS2 is upstairs alone. Last week DP had a go at me about leaving his son (who has learning difficulties) alone in his bedroom and made out that I was making him feel isolated and unwelcome. I busy myself with exam revision in the dining room, DP eventually drags DSS downstairs and then comes to me and says "will you watch scary movie with ds?" I reply "err I'm a little busy actually - why don't you watch it with him?" (dss was stood there, I felt awful but I have 6 weeks to revise and I'm working full time) - dp replied "right. come on ds, lets see what we can find for you to watch." wicked stepmother mark 1. DP was doing nothing other than pratting around on his pc. It's HIS access weekend, not mine.

At lunch time I said to DP "why don't you take DSS to cinema?" (we live 5 minutes from the cinema). He replied "errr ummm dunno if we can afford it" (this is a dig at me asking if we can be careful with money as to avoid slipping into the overdraft every month.) I say "course we can, you were going to anyway I thought?" and he replied "umm maybe next week." - the real reason for this is that he massively favours his eldest child and can't bear the thought of taking DSS2 out without DSS1 so because DSS1 doesn't want to visit, DSS2 basically gets a full weekend of watching tv and doing fuck all else.

I leave them to it.

At 2pm his eldest son texts and says "can you pick me up from my girlfriends house asap please" - so dp is good enough to use as a taxi service but not to spend the weekend with? naturally DP jumps to attention and runs off to drive an hour away to pick up DSS1 - to the detriment of DSS2 who had been looking forward to my youngest coming home in the afternoon to play xbox with him. (and notice how we can afford the extra petrol here but we can't afford to take dss2 to the cinema?)

I subtly suggest that I felt sorry for DSS2 this weekend having a shit weekend due to his eldest brother not been here and so everyones plans going tits up as usual (I worded it more diplomatically) - I got my head bit off.

So - later last night my headache begins to return. An obvious migraine pain so I lay on the sofa, take a couple of neurofen and try and chill out so it doesn't get any worse. DP then shouts from the dining room "can you just hoover the fireplace for me please?" (he'd spent all evening ripping it out). I said "give me a few minutes, I have a headache." I hear him sigh and say "right" and a few minutes later he comes in saying "I'll hoover up then since you can't be arsed. I say "do you realise how bad this headache is?" and he snaps "no its ok, you just lay there as usual and I'll do everything, I'll catch the moths (a dig at my son who is terrified of moths) and I'll empty the bin and I'll hoover the fireplace and I'll sort out the internet and I'll make the drinks ..... " he then does a little dance around the living room which is supposed to represent him running around after me. He'd been promising all night that we'd sit and watch a movie with my DS (who had been looking forward to it for hours) and he just seemed to be stalling it for as long as possible to make a point. His final words on it were "well I can't watch that until I've finished sorting the house out, had a shower, had a shave etc so it will get put on when it gets put on." 9pm we were still waiting to watch it.

10.45pm I'm feeling really shit so say I'm off to bed. He rolls his eyes and says "well, thats far too early for me so I'll see you later." Gone midnight he came to bed - today he will whinge that he'd tired and that will probably be my fault too. I'm feeling so fed up. We never used to be like this. If he hates me so much, why can't he just be honest and tell me?

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 09:07

On the face of it, he sounds fairly selfish and uncaring. If you don't like him any more, ask him to leave rather than wasting more time.

Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 09:13

A recent 'argument' between us is "massage-gate".

Basically I often massage his head, massage his back etc and I spend a while doing it, doing it properly. If ever I ask him to massage me I get a few minutes of half arsed rubbing. Lately my boobs have been really, really painful. (pmt). It helps if they're massaged. I thought this might be a good opportunity to get close to dp and what man would refuse an offer to play with his girlfriends boobs? I ask him if he'd mind massaging my boobs whilst we lay in bed. I could have sworn I heard a little sigh as if to say "here we go again, wanting attention." Hmm he very, very half heartedly strokes one boob and then stops. I give up, not going to beg for it.
Next day he says "oh my shoulders are killing me, just give us a rub please?" I reply "you know what, I can't be bothered. You never help me out when I need it." he was so shocked. He then said "oh fine, I'll just sit here in pain shall I." all one sided. always.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 09:15

Again... selfish. Why would you want to share your life with someone who is fundamentally selfish? Do you think he's the best you can do? Are you tied to him financially? Do you feel it's your job to make him happy or keep the family together?

FairyThunderthighs · 29/07/2013 09:21

Wow. He sounds like an absolute ARSE. I feel sorry for his youngest son. And you!
Life is too short to spend parenting an adult.

Mixxy · 29/07/2013 09:24

How long have you been together? Seems like he expects you to co-parent his children (or specifically his DS with SN). Is this something you have talked about?

He sounds a bit immature. You have your plate full at the moment: work, exams, crushing headaches. Maybe tell him that you expect him to look after his children until you take these exams. And ask to work something out after that. Depends on your co-parenting agreement.

If he's just being a fussy arse, call him up on it. Many men expect "breaks" etc from childcare, when he already gets weekdays off. Lots of men minimize the effort it takes to care for a child or be a SAHM, then when given more than 12 hours of childcare - crack.

If the love is totally gone between you, that's a different matter.

Mixxy · 29/07/2013 09:28

Wow, just saw your update. He is an arse. I'll bet he has a cracker of a mother!

If he wants it all to be about him, show him the door. He
can spend all day on his computer ignoring his responsibilities.

Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 09:32

I am rather tied to him financially for the time being (short term) but apart from that, I do love him. I cling on to the good times we have had and the times we are happy (we do have them still) but I find myself getting more and more disillusioned with the whole thing. He's never happy, no matter what I do he'll always find something to moan about. He won't talk to me. He'll never tell me what's bothering him. A few days ago he said "oh you know what, d (my youngest) really pissed me off last weekend. He waited until dss2 was with us and then said "will you play badminton with me later?". I was like "...... and? how did he piss you off??" and dp said "well, that! how inconsiderate! poor dss2 has a hard time as it is only seeing me at weekends without your ds rubbing it in that we play together when my kids have gone home!!" my ds is 12 - he's not manipulative enough to have orchestrated that conversation on purpose to upset dss2, he gets on great with dss2 - he just doesn't think like that!! but no - it's another excuse for dp to whine at me that something else has upset him.

I don't mind looking after dss, he's 16 but has the mental age of a 7 year old - so he DOES need looking after but he's a lovely lad and I enjoy spending time with him - but don't make it my responsibility to keep him happy all weekend whilst you sit on your pc thinking about how hard done to you are, I have to draw the line somewhere.

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pictish · 29/07/2013 09:32

He's selfish isn't he? And that's the crux of the matter. His needs are top priority, while yours are inconsequential.

You two need to have a very serious talk about his me me me attitude to your lives together.

Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 09:33

His mother is lovely, we get on great. Never met his dad but I'm told he was an amazing bloke by everyone that knew him. His sister is also cool. So god knows why he's the way he is.

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Mixxy · 29/07/2013 09:39

That is strange. Seems so hard done by for a lucky bloke.

Do you think he has massive guilt issues about his children and is taking it out on you?

Walkacrossthesand · 29/07/2013 09:40

I think you've posted about him before haven't you, about how he worries about everything yet tries to pin responsibility for everything (eg his relationship with his DCs) on you? I would do more of the kind of thing you did yesterday ie pointing out specifically how he expects things from you that he isnt prepared to reciprocate, and pointing out how unreasonable his resulting 'shock, horror' is. You may find your relationship is predicated on him getting his own way, in which case it will unravel fairly rapidly - are you prepared for that?

CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 09:40

"apart from that, I do love him. "

So do nothing, stop complaining and suck it up.... Confused

Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 09:45

Yes Mixxy I think that could be it. Ever since we got together I've known he has these hang ups about his kids/divorce but if he's not over it now (when the kids are almost adults) he's never going to get over it is he?

Another issue now is holidays. I want to go on holiday next year. He wants to take his kids (we took mine this year). Fine - but dss1 is an adult and we'll have to pay his full fare, pay for his passport and supply all of his spending money as he doesn't work and his mother won't contribute. Not only that but he will probably end up dictating where we go and what we do. Aside from this, the ex is DSS2s official carer and refuses to get him a passport so bearing all this in mine DP knows it's going to be awkward and probably won't work out so refuses to discuss holidays at all. Basically, if his kids can't come, we won't be going anywhere. Which is silly. His kids go away with their mother every year and for the past two years have gone away with their father (in the uk) for a week as well. He'll probably do the same next year so why can't we have a holiday?? it's like he doesn't give a shit about me as long as he gets his week away etc.

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Mixxy · 29/07/2013 09:53

Ah it is divorce and children guilt then. Any chance he could get some counselling about it? Would he even consider it?

Because it is not fair that he takes it out on you and not fair that your family holidays are dictated by the ex-wife. I know she must be very protective of her SN son but could you reassure her over the coming months that great care will be taken? Sadly, in this economy it is unsurprising that an 18 year old doesn't work. Wont work is a different matter.

Helltotheno · 29/07/2013 09:55

So you're just having a general rant then?
Because obviously you're not going to do anything to change things....

CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 09:56

... well exactly...Hmm

TalkativeJim · 29/07/2013 10:02

In answer to your OP, no it's not going to work. It's not working now.

But, that doesn't mean you can't stay with him and have a rubbish life (ditto your DS of course).

'I still love him' - no, you love the man he was pretending to be in the first flush of a relationship. Now, you can see that that's not who he is. So it just depends on whether you want to take the blinkers off.

It's not just you, either. It's not situational. Look at the way he treats his younger son. It's him - he's just not a very nice guy, by the looks of it.

So do what you will with that information.

HouseAtreides · 29/07/2013 10:03

It doesn't really sound like the good parts of your relationship are enough to balance out the bad. If your sandwich was mouldy, you wouldn't keep on eating it, telling yourself "Ah but some bits aren't mouldy!" you'd stop eating the bloody sandwich!
He sounds a truly unpleasant man to live with.

Mixxy · 29/07/2013 10:04

Oh for gods sake! This is the relationships section for SUPPORT and advise, not the Divorce Boards.

Pay no heed, OP.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 10:05

If the OP was planning to jump off the Forth Bridge SUPPORT would not be offering to hold her coat while she did it. Hmm

Mixxy · 29/07/2013 10:08

Who is doing that? Nobody.

juneau · 29/07/2013 10:10

He sounds like a complete twat. What are these 'good times' you cling to? Doesn't sound you have many, TBH.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 29/07/2013 10:10

You. You're urging us to support the woman. A few of us are saying that sometimes the best form of support is to bring a bad relationship to an end rather than reassuring the OP that love will conquer all.

Mixxy · 29/07/2013 10:12

I never said love would conquer all. Ever. At all. Dont know what you are reading.

But you are right.

OP, the LTB jury has spoken. Fuck off until you need advise on division of assets, you moany weak cow.

Gloriapiano · 29/07/2013 10:15

lol wow Grin

Maybe I am just having a rant, is that not allowed on here anymore?

Maybe I'm trying to clear my head and work out what is going on?

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