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Someone talk to me emotional affair

83 replies

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 20:51

Hi
I found out last year my husband was having an EA whilst I was pregnant.
He kept going out with his friends I must admit I probably did go on at him but he was out all the time I rang him and had a huge row I have two other children who are now 4 & 6.
He threatened to leave me that went off for a week I didn't eat or sleep I worried for my unborn son. He said he couldn't live with me anymore as I was vile basically.
He did leave for a night and then came home the next day still saying he was going packing his stuff and taking off his wedding ring and throwing it at me.

I begged him not to go I couldn't imagine life alone pregnant with small children too. In the end he stayed and said he wanted to make our marriage work.
Everything was going ok until June (he didn't want me to go to his works party in that month)

Instinct told me to check his phone and numerous msgs were swapped with a Dan but I couldn't read the deleted msgs it just showed in message log so I could see what was sent and when.
The messages were swapped after he has already come back a few days after.

I asked who Dan was he said a work colleague (male) I only suspected something as a Danielle had messaged him on Facebook a few months previous around the time of the problems.
I rang the number and she was a total cow on the phone told me nothing really so didn't help.
He admitted they had an attraction but it went no further than that? And they both were having relationship probs and she was just a shoulder to cry on.
I made him leave his job at that point only because an incident had happened a year before.

The first incident was a couple he made friends with at work the girl was 19 and I thought as he was friends with them as a couple it was fine.
They talked on Facebook for months he commented on her photos just sarcastic comments really but maybe hidden flirting who knows?

Then in June 2011 he didn't come back on time from work and said he worked late when I asked him.
This girl messaged me the next day saying he had gone to her house after work saying he needed the toilet he knew her boyfriend wasn't there as he just left him at work.
She told me she thought he was attracted to her as why would he go around when he was alone for a few hours ?
After I foud out he swore he didn't like her but she was nuts and loved herself I believed him.

All this has been eating me up inside he no longer works there and has been nothing but nice to me but does keep accusing me of looking at other men which he never used to.
I asked him last night of he liked the first girl and to tell me the truth he said he did Said he liked her tattoos! But wouldn't of acted on it!

I feel like a total mug he did admit he thought something better may be out there but now he knows he did wrong and asks me to move on and stop bringing up the past.

I don't know why he did any of it I'm relatively attractive I think ,so hugely dented my self esteem.

I would love to know peoples opinions on this if he had the chance with the first girl would he have taken it? Also would he have left me for that girl last year? He swears that wasn't the plan he was leaving because of our problems.
Could u forgive ? I'm 26 I don't want to live this life in regret of staying with a liar who I can't trust. He's so nice and friendly no one would suspect him to be untrustworthy

I need honest opinions pls

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sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:07

Am I being blind to his behaviour how has that happened? How did i not know its not normal ? My idea of normal has gone.
In company he acts nice most of the time and laid back/fun etc everyone thinks he's so nice. I'm no angel myself but the anger in him is getting worse and more often.

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bbqsummer · 25/06/2013 23:10

He raped you. I am so very sorry. But I'm glad that you are posting and getting some sorely-needed perspective.

You need to rid your lives of this low-life.

There is help. Reach out.

Start telling people - as many close to you as possible.

bbqsummer · 25/06/2013 23:11

So what have you decided to do tomorrow? Will he be at work?

We can guide you through. You know you have to do this.

bbqsummer · 25/06/2013 23:13

where is your husband at the moment?

tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:14

Oh sweetness.

Every single one of us on here has not seen what's right in front of our noses at times. Or knows what advice we would give others but not give or take ourselves.

To be blunt:

Yes, that was rape
He is violent, trashing the family home
He is an emotional abuse with the suicide threats
He is a mental abuser, threatening you
He thinks he owns you
He has worn you down

There's no shame in ANY of this. Please, make notes of the incidents, watch your internet history, confide in someone you can trust to be strong and on your side, gather paperwork and call the professionals for help.

The lightbulb moment is about to come. We are all here to guide you and send you support.

But please, please see that you are worth so much more than this pathetic man. Flowers

cozietoesie · 25/06/2013 23:14

sweetness

How did you not know this was normal? You said it yourself earlier in the thread.

......Reading what I've written I know what I would say to someone else but when your in it yourself you don't realise what's happening things snowball ........

It's time to plan to get out.

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:14

I knew deep down but because I stayed quiet during I thought that was classed as consent. I'm glad Ive told someone .
The house is rented in both names but i pay out of my wages into the landlords account.

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AnyFucker · 25/06/2013 23:15

Tomorrow, do one thing

Tell your mum the whole truth about what has been happening. Take it from there.

If no joy (I have a sneaky suspicion true support will not be forthcoming, unfortunately), go to CAB on your own and find out your financial situation without him there.

tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:16

Yes, tomorrow, start gathering your life back and get help.

AnyFucker · 25/06/2013 23:17

So you can afford the rent on your own ?

Ring CAB and/or Women's Aid and see what their advice is re, taking his name off the rentbook. Broach it with your landlord in confidence (unless those two are mates or summat)

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:18

He's downstairs he has not long come home from work. He's at work all week I have money saved in my account of I need it not a lot but enough to keep me going.
I don't know what to do?
I'm on my phone he doesn't use it but I will clear it as yesterday he did check phone as soon as he got home from work which he's never done before.

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tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:18

And to revert to your original post, he is playing away. One more reason to let this energy and life sapper go. You came on here to vent, to question, to confirm you're not going mad.

You're not.

One step at a time but reclaim yourself sweetness

AnyFucker · 25/06/2013 23:19

Clear your phone right now and make sure you log out of MN. Remove all history. If you have had any pm's make sure you don't get a corresponding email.

tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:19

He senses there is a change, guard your phone

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:21

I'm the only one to deal with the landlord I know him well enough he would rent it to me on my own.
I'm a legal secretary I don't earn a lot but I would get by. I'm only part time at the moment I would have to see if I could get any help.
How do I do this ? I don't think he will just go I don't want the boys here it would scare them.

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Xales · 25/06/2013 23:21

Women's Aid and a refuge as soon as you safely can tomorrow with the kids. Keep the off school unless that will arouse his suspicion and get away from this abuser.

tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:23

Legal secretary? Anyone at work who can advise you?

AnyFucker · 25/06/2013 23:23

You need more support yet. Don't do anything until it is in place. Start talking to your friends and family. Perhaps see a solicitor for a free half hour.

If he gets physical/throwing things around, call the police. You could also consider reporting his historical rape of you

but tell him nothing

this is imperative

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:24

He knows something's wrong he's asked me today.
I need to go as I'm sure he will be up soon.
I will be back tomorrow , thank you I don't know you but you have helped me see sense I needed to hear this .

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tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:25

He should be the one to go, not you. It's the family residence. Can you get a barring order? I'm not in uk so not sure if you have the same system there but surely a colleague would know? You might have to buy some time here, but hurry

tightfortime · 25/06/2013 23:26

We'll be here tomorrow. Best of luck

AnyFucker · 25/06/2013 23:30

we will be here x

sweetness86 · 25/06/2013 23:33

I don't work in family law I work for a business unfortunately so would have no joy there in regards to advice but their may be someone I can contact and ask.
I need to plan how I'm going to do this. Thanks again will be back soon.

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MrMeaner · 26/06/2013 00:24

Sorry to hear everything you've been through.
Your initial post was bad enough, but I was willing to give him some benefit of the doubt if he'd cleaned up his act (although I do think he slept with her).
Sadly it's clear that he's actually a complete twat and potentially a scary one at that. How on earth a father could say 'I hate you' to his baby I don't know - imagine what they will feel like when they start understanding what he is saying.
And yes, I'm afraid he raped you.
Good luck - I hope you can make it out and find a better life.

sweetness86 · 26/06/2013 09:42

I have not slept much. I have spoken to him on the phone this morning at work he sounds all chirpy and being nice.
I can't help feeling this guilt that im planning to leave him and he's doesn't know anything.
I won't discuss it with him till I've got a plan my middle son is at nursery this afternoon and the next two days. I'm planning to really sort this out when I have sometime to myself to think.
I feel guilty though I can't help it is that weird?

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