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Relationship in slow decline: what steps to take?

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AmmiMajus · 26/03/2013 09:41

I realise over the past month or so that my relationship with dh is probably declining to the extent that I don't - at the moment - particularly want to stay with him forever. We have an 11 yr old and a 9 yr old, and I haven't any desire to break up the family for them - dh and I get on all right - but obviously once they've left home there will be nothing to stop me having a less frustrating daily life and I look forward to that.

I cannot be the only one in this position. (I have real life friends who are similarly placed but I just can't ask them, it's like admitting defeat.) Has anyone got any wise words about how I can prepare for this? I'm starting with opening my own bank account but I'm sure there are more practical and emotional things to prepare for.

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AmmiMajus · 26/03/2013 15:19

I do find I'm feeling contemptuous and/or frustrated more and more. But my overriding feeling is 'I remember thinking back in 1998 that this wasn't good and I glossed over it or made some excuse...' I really was so very in love with him, if he went silent when I said something that required an emotional response (as an example) I could explain it away as him being a product of his (emotionally stunted) family or as me being too needy.
I've just had enough of that! If there were no children involved I'd have been off.
Anyway - boring. Predictable. An age-old story. I really came for advice on what to do in prep, so special thanks to those who've posted about the practicalities.

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TheOrchardKeeper · 26/03/2013 15:53

I am sorry to hear that, don't get me wrong.

But glossing over only works short term, not forever, as you know! I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to try talking to someone with issues like that (no matter how they developed them).

I hope you can skim some of the other threads on here, as they offer lots of advice on what to do before leaving/the practicalities & legal issues.

Take care

garlicbrunch · 26/03/2013 16:48

The long-term married couple who, as far as I can tell, have the best relationship among my friends, got that way after she had a breakdown. Her H isn't as you describe yours but had become somewhat complacent in that he took it for granted she'd be there, keeping life lovely, while he got on with his own stuff. She cracked under the strain. He was shocked. They re-negotiated.

Drawing some conclusions from your rather sparse remarks, I get the impression you spend too much time smiling through gritted teeth, rolling your eyes and thinking/saying things like "May as well get on with it, never mind, oh well, here I go again ..." This is actually no model to give growing children - what gender are they, and when did you last engage them in conversations and play around adult relationships? When they were little, how did the Mummies and Daddies of their games behave?

It's also, dare I say it, potentially unfair on your husband who may simply be lazy rather than emotionally incompetent. If you were to lay your concerns out straight for him - perhaps after discussing the issues with a counsellor - are you 100% sure you know how he'd react?

Overtiredmum · 26/03/2013 19:08

OP, your original post could have been written by me. I have been with DH for 12 years, married for 7 and although we tick along, I am so unhappy. DC are 7 and 3 and although my DS, who is at school most days is unaware, my DD almost daily picks up on my feelings. Yesterday she spent most of the afternoon drying my tears telling me she loved me. Is that right?

My DH is a great dad, and we share parenting - he works days and I work evenings, but I do not actually get much support from him, either around the home or on parenting decisions. My problem is that I just do not love him as I should, my feelings based more on that as a brother, than a husband. My parents separated numerous times when i was growing up, my father being dedicated to his job, and thus resulted in my mother being the main parent. I have watched the resentment within their relationship, and as I look as my own relationship with DH, I can see my the same results.

I talk to my mother and she says I should be happy with him, and be content with the fact that he is a good father, and I will never get better. That I should be content with a companion. That may be true, but it is not that I want better, or even a relationship, but my mother is 65, I understand her need for companionship, I am 38, I feel I deserve the right to be happy with my own life, and not feel just like a servant that everyone is relying upon?

I have been having some very dark days, I tried talking to DH at weekend about it, I said I felt we have just been drifting apart over the last few years, his reaction was "Well, just don't drift too far". Since then I have found out he has been asking my friends if I am having an affair - which I am not.

At work I am confident and outgoing. At home I am subdued and just put up with whatever is thrown my way. I feel like I am two different people, and I am scared of the future.

We are due to go on holiday this weekend for 10 days, I cannot bear the thought of spending time with DH, I just don't want to be there, but need to make it special for the DC.

I am not looking for justification of how I feel, or what I want. I want to try some counselling, on my own, to see if I can find out why I feel this way. I am scared of what I will be told. My DH has said if we ever split up, he will take the children away, is this possible?? This makes me feel more trapped than I do already.

Sorry to hijack, writing this down has helped, and I would welcome thoughts, am I just being selfish and I should stay, but I am worried the affect on my children, and scared I will just end up hating my DH, but with his conversations with my friends, how do I finish it without him thinking there is someone else?

Thank you for listening

Spero · 26/03/2013 19:31

He can't just take the children away, that is a cruel and stupid thing to say. The law will try to ensure both of you stay in their lives.

I would definitively try to find someone to talk to, just so you can get it clearer in your own mind what you want and what you can do. Would he also go to counselling?

I know it is hard and scarey but from bitter experience I know it is always better to confront these feelings rather than try to hide them or pretend they don't matter.

Overtiredmum · 26/03/2013 19:38

Thanks Spero. I haven't told him I want counselling yet, but this is something I want to do for myself. I need to work out whether I actually want to make it work first, I feel so trapped and unhappy, I feel lost and I need to understand my own feelings properly, before I can explain them to him. Does that make sense?

I would expect him to have joint custody, or that is what I would offer. This is not about me taking them away from him, as I said he is a good dad, maybe not as hands-on with them as I would wish, but this is about me. My 3 year old DD should not be wiping my tears away?!

Spero · 26/03/2013 19:40

No you are right, your children should not be wiping your tears. That suggests a level of distress you do need to deal with - I think your plan sounds good.

Overtiredmum · 26/03/2013 19:56

Its not really a plan, I feel more like I am fighting for survival - that sounds horrible, doesn't it?!

Spero · 26/03/2013 20:12

It's only horrible if you give in and do nothing. Find someone good to talk to and take it from there.

Overtiredmum · 26/03/2013 20:21

Thank you x

bigdecisions · 27/03/2013 16:25

ammi overtiredmum - I feel very similar to you except I don't feel the obligation to stay for kids.

I've just read "too good to leave, too bad to stay" - very insightful. It has confused me a lot but I have learnt some things about my marriage.

Overtiredmum · 27/03/2013 17:30

Sorry bigdecisions, can I ask what you mean?

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