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[KittyAndTheFontanelles]

over hear night owls . Unless we are somewhere else

Glad to hear you're feeling ok Bluey & Mini you are bump free!!

So I was right then re vajazzles Cripes.

jynier your camberwick green is in Essex isn't it? What do you know of such things?

dad did you use my full name because I'd been naughty? . It's nothing to do with me, I've no telly here so I'm in the dark its amazing what you can pick up on radio 4

mini that's good news about fluffycat. Eating is a great sign.

Going back to the vocational midwifery degree - actually yes it was blooming hard. Internal diameters of the pelvis anyone? Names of the pelvic muscles?!! Arrggh!!

Midwife was just trying to understand the rationale

Kitty I did not realise I wrote your full name, might be something done subsconsciously MrShrek might be able to explain it better. May be we need to wait for jynier for more info

so who's forgotten it's April fools day.... tsk are you all doing that vajazzling for beginners course

very pleased to hear SD say brains aren't a prerequisite for doing a phd. most encouraging as mine turned to custard some time ago. I blame having babies.

Do you still remember that stuff Midwife, did you ever need to apply that in real

themidwife I don't doubt it. Please don't do yourself down.

I had an Easter egg before breakfast. I needed the energy rush

dad I feel like I've had a true dressing down

MrsShrek raising a baby is far tougher than getting a Phd IME, can't say anything about having a baby . Not a bad idea to have a beginners course, wonder what would be the more advanced ones though, need that info eheeeeeeeeem.

I realised it is April Fools day when I read this BBC could not choose a better day for this article

Ah perhaps my daughter was doing an April fool one me

Kitty dressing down ?? why how

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

dad that's a classic

oops cross posts.

I'm joking dad. Just because you used my full name. Ignore me

KittyAndTheFontanelles ok I did

Piriformis and Obturator. Is all I've got to say. < prbbly spelt rong>

Prbbly spelt rong

Brilliant

and otherwise confused

It was my feeble attempt to name some muscles of the pelvis. They are down there somewhere. Ileopsoas.

Are they the ones that we squeeze?

No, although bits of ileopsoas might join in. You are really testing my A&P. shall have to go and look it up now, on a need to know basis, as midwife who will have this knowledge at her fingertips ( literally) has gorn.

Well the internal diameters of the pelvis & how they relate to the diameters of the fetal head are useful to know so you know why they might not fit in certain positions & the mechanism of childbirth as a result. My favourite pelvic floor muscle is the bulbocavernosus!

I love muscle names, that sounds like something you'd find in a garden centre.

oh wow what a great name!

mini I knew what you were going and was very impressed!

Can either of you enlighten me as to where/what the vaginal vault is? They always mention it on CSI and I thunk its a great name. I reckon it must just be the main batcave part.

When my husband asks if I know where such -a-thing is

I often say its in my vaginal vault

Taking a back seat now hehehe

A vaginal vault is what's left after a hysterectomy. Americans may use the term to describe the top portion of the vagina near the cervix but we call is a canal.