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Why are so many people up at this hour ?

999 replies

SummerDad · 27/01/2013 01:25

Just wondering ...

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kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 29/01/2013 04:38

Ooh mnemonics rock! Yes please!
saddo kitty

Funny you should say that, cafe because when I was little and I couldn't sleep, my mum would say

"that's ok, don't try to sleep, just lie there and see if you can stay awake till your dad and I come up"

Tiny Kitty "ok mummy zzzz"

Worked a treat taking the pressure off.

kittyandthegoldenfontanelles · 29/01/2013 04:48

Ok fingers crossed le munch bunch seems to have gone off again so I'm away to do a Medicine inspired abc game.

A antibody
B botulism
C cross contamination

Good luck with your studies cafe

Hope everyone else has gone off too

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:01

ok hope you sleep well kitty - let me know if you get stuck on a letter!

izzyizin · 29/01/2013 05:08

This thread makes it seem as if there's more of us around at night than there is in the day Smile

Can't stop thinking about Squeaky tucking into Hershey bars at the drive-in movie show Envy

I'm coming round to it, Wordy. This came out of the blue - one day lunging and squatting with ease and, literally, the next hobbling on a pair of crutches

Our family doc is onto it; he's got my x-rays and he's sorting out the best surgeon/hospital/technique. I'm intending to spend a week riding my horse before I check in for an op because, from what I've read, it'll be 3 months before I can risk doing the the can-can getting my leg over again. NB: over the saddle, my pets, although I sure hope I can get back in it earlier Grin

Aw jeez, not the start to 2013 I'd planned but I guess it's for a reason which, as yet, escapes me.

Got any dull and obtuse tomes on the comparable values of watching various brands of paint dry, cafecito? I'm desperate for some zzzzz's and fed up with counting sheep.

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:19

10 mechanisms of brain damage izzy- thrilling stuff, hmm, glutamate...GABA..L1 CAM...glial astrocytes... apoptosis...

garlicblocks · 29/01/2013 05:19

Morning!!! My sleep's ALL over the place atm. It's always been messy and I'm absolutely freaking out about my benefits, which have been stopped. Worse than freaking out, actually, I'm paralysed by fear which is preventing me from dealing with it.

Anyway, since I'm up again despite having taken a sleeping pill at about 10pm, I'm thinking I might distract myself by dyeing my hair (grey!) and then have another go at my benefit forms. Or go back to bed. Or summat Confused

Izzy, no guarantees but try some diet adjustments for your knee. Things to try:-

  1. Cut out coffee. Just a switch from istant to real will sometimes do it.
  2. Gluten free. Nuisance, but works for many.
  3. Dairy-free. Nuisance, but works for me.
  4. Cut out 'acid' foods. These are foods which metabolise to acids, not necessarily acid in themselves. You can look them up on the Web. The main ones seem to be tomatoes and citrus fruit but you can have pineapple and berries, etc.

I hope you manage to at least dull the pain. It's horrid feeling crippled! xx

ComradeJing · 29/01/2013 05:22

Other good way to get to sleep is to count backwards from 100 or backwards in 3s from 100.

for everyone feeling sad and low.

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:23

izzy- just seen about your knee [ouch ouch ouch]

sadly I know nothing as is the case with most real doctors too replacement sounds drastic I know, :(

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:25

good tips there, garlic!

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:26

did you ever run a lot izzy, or is it a riding injury that's been cumulative?

cafecito · 29/01/2013 05:27

garlic- much stress! not surprised you're awake

BuntyPenfold · 29/01/2013 05:29

garlicblocks gives good advice. I would be hobbling around if I ate acid-forming foods, yet the diet is generally unknown.
I have had arthritis since childhood and keep it at bay through diet.

Today/tonight I am on day 8 or 9 of flu, I can't work out which, and sleepless due to aching all over.

sorry you are so worried garlic, I hope you get it sorted.

AlienReflux · 29/01/2013 05:50

have two snot filled kids, one of which has started puking . :(

izzyizin · 29/01/2013 07:28

O shit, garlic. Have you put in an appeal? Do you have law centre anywhere near you?

Cheers for the tips, honey. I adore tomatoes and lemons but they're going out the window and I intend to to act on all of your tips - for which I thank you very much and I'm greatly encouraged by Bunty's endorsement.

It seems skiing is the most likely culprit and, more specifically, my love of slalom and moguls, cafecito.

Having once witnessed an orthopaedic surgeon carve a Thanksgiving turkey, I vowed never to put my life bod in their hands. I reckon that turkey has exacted vengeance on the wrong party Confused

Just about every male ortho surgeon I've met has been a rugby player and I'm aware it's something of a a Black & Decker and quick fix cement speciality for gung-ho guys, nevertheless I won't be allowing them to shut me up put me under so I guess any conversation in theatre will be of the bellowing over the sound of the drill variety.

I'm giving it 3 months to see if natural remedies combined with hard prescription drugs get it under control and, if not, I'll bite the bullet and go for surgery. I'm a lousy very impatient patient and the pain coupled with incapacitation is already beginning to drive me nuts.

I know the species has to adapt to survive but my adaptation has taken the form of me becoming virtually housebound not being able to run to save my life Hmm

This is the last time I'll bang on about it - in the general scheme of things I'm blessed and it could be both knees a lot worse.

On the bright side, I guess if I go Stateside for an op I'll get to ride in one of those airport buggys 'cos there's no way I'll be able to hobble from departure lounge to boarding gate at Heathrow or Gatwick, with or without hand luggage Smile

Golly gosh, look at the time! Here come the day shift Grin

cafecito · 29/01/2013 08:02

ooh yay nearly time for caffeine (coffee does not exist here til 8am.. outrageous)

I have a good friend who frequently injures their medial meniscus in skiing and snowboarding incidents- it hasn't stopped them, they're 40 but have gone skiing every year for 15-20 years and used to be an instructor. easily done with simple turns - yes orthopaedic surgeons are a unique bunch... ehem... Grin oh I hope you find some things helpful, I will let you know if I come up with anything new or interesting here that could help

cafecito · 29/01/2013 08:02

though that would require me working rather than MNing

sadly listening to cheesy music on my ipod at same time, keep bouncing in the silent area of the library... dellliiirrrious...

have good days all

ike1 · 29/01/2013 08:12

Garlic go to CAB with your benefits if you are struggling. ALWYAYS appeal negative decisions. Apparently somewhere in the region of 80% are successful...

SummerDad · 30/01/2013 01:19

First vampire resurrection of the night ... Grin

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Lostonthemoors · 30/01/2013 01:20

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chickensarmpit · 30/01/2013 01:21

I'm listening to my neighbours washing machine which she has plumbed into her bathroom. Which is next to my bedroom.

Lueji · 30/01/2013 01:29

Working at the computer, again.
And having a break between tasks.

Even the cat is fast asleep.

It is not yet very late for me.

SummerDad · 30/01/2013 01:31

bless, Lostonthemoors, I hope you get a good night sleep tonight next to your little angel Smile

chickensarmpit I can understand what would you be feeling. I had a stupid neighbour once who liked to turn his washing machine on after the midnight. I had to involve the police which sorted out the problem Grin

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Letmeintroducemyself · 30/01/2013 01:32

feeding - again

izzyizin · 30/01/2013 01:38

Well done, Dad. If you hadn't, I was going to Smile

Where's garlic? I hope she's had some joy on the benefits front.

Wouldn't it be nice if squeaky put in an appearance... why do I have it in my mind that her rellies live in Minnesota?

I know there's a long way to go but may I put in an early suggestion for any continuation of this thread to be titled Insomniacs Anonymous?

izzyizin · 30/01/2013 01:40

What did the police do, Dad? Arrest the washing machine for causing a disturbance of the peace? Grin