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Has he been lying to me?

94 replies

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 20/12/2012 19:42

Since I've known him, my partner has gone on at length about his awful childhood at the hands of his foster parents, he received many beatings, including a fractured sternum and skull whilst in their care. He hasn't seen them for years, he doesn't call or send cards. He mentioned he couldn't understand why people like that got paid to foster etc etc and that the council should have to pay compensation for placing him there. I asked him once why he didn't get moved if it was so bad but he said that his foster parents always put on a good front to the authorities.

We went to visit relatives of his last night and the conversation turned to other relatives. While listening to his uncle I learned that the foster parents were his actual parents. His foster siblings were his brother and sister. There was no mention of those awful injuries, or the repeated beatings, just that his mum was difficult to get on with.

He must have noticed that I looked puzzled, as when we left he said he had felt like a foster child. After asking me never to mention anything about the subject to his relatives, he then revealed his dad used to interfere with the other (foster?) children and I would cause problems if "I raked up the past by asking questions".

I tried to bring it up again when we got back to his but he refused to discuss it. I'm now questioning everything, when we've had problems in the past he has blamed it on being a foster child and his experiences and insecurity about that. I have always given people the benefit of the doubt but right now I feel like he's let me down. There is something nagging my gut now, am I right to feel like this or am I reading too much into things?

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pictish · 20/12/2012 23:06

You sound very right thinking OP.
Cogito's article is spot on.

He sounds like a bad bet through and through doesn't he?

tiredofwaitingforitalltochange · 20/12/2012 23:07

Ugh, what a loser. Telling those kinds of lies at FIFTY

pictish · 20/12/2012 23:09

I know. I'm only a poor little sparrow.
Urk.

ClippedPhoenix · 20/12/2012 23:19

My mother did this munchaussen thing. She was admitted to numerous hospitals and it always turned out there was nothing wrong with her. She was even on a renound medical programme with a heart condition that didn't exist.

Then, when the penny dropped and everyone knew there was nothing wrong with her she started on my baby sister telling everyone she had a tumour.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 20/12/2012 23:46

I'm not pretending the next few days will be easy, I know I'm going to cry for so many reasons. I'm meeting my friend tomorrow for lunch, she is another voice of reason. She will be shocked I think, but I can rely on her to be a good shoulder. I'm working over Christmas and New Year so I will be kept occupied.

Thank you all for your advice, I know it's over. I think it was over last night when I heard his uncle speaking to him. It was such a shock, I wish I'd piped up there and then for clarification but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

CatchingMockingbirds, I'm grateful for your angle too. If he'd said that he'd had a violent upbringing at the hands of his parents, and been more honest about things I could have accepted it. I know I would have had more respect for him. I would not have judged him for never wanting to speak to his parents again.

Regardless of what may or may not have happened, the foster thing was such a lie and he sounded so sincere when he told me about that. I would hate to go through life never knowing if I was being told the truth about things.

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Izzyschangelingisarriving · 20/12/2012 23:50

Run - a mile - as fast as you can - I once forgave someone a dreadful lie - and the lies, they just kept coming.

Viviennemary · 20/12/2012 23:51

If somebody was capable of fabricating such a huge lie about their background I'd be seriously wondering if I had a future with them. In fact I wouldn't think I had. Why would somebody feel the need to lie on this scale.

izzyizin · 21/12/2012 13:23

I hope you'll come back and confirm you've done the deed, honey.

NB: this izzy is not expecting a changeling nor has she changed her name to reflect the festive season.

AnotherMumOnHere · 21/12/2012 15:10

Ive read most of the posts. He has only been in 2 or 3 short term relationships - these girls/women have sussed him out a lot faster than you OP, dont mean to hurt but it is the truth. TC.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 21/12/2012 21:13

Hi izzy, I met my lovely friend today for lunch. I told her everything and she has urged me to get this sorted asap. She too thinks I am worth so much more. I feel so hollow today.

I've tried to ring a few times, he isn't picking up. I guess I will have to speak to him tomorrow instead. Not the way I wanted to spend my birthday but hey.

AnotherMum, thank you, you speak sense. I know it. I had my rose tinted blinkers on for sure.

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izzyizin · 21/12/2012 21:44

Thanks HAPPY BIRTHDAY Thanks and many more of them, honey.

Have a Wine and please do come back after you've divested yourself of the joy sucker millstone round your neck - I want to know that you're going to have a happy Christmas and go foward into 2013 without this liar running you ragged.

AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 21:50

have you dumped him yet ?

if not, why not ?

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 21/12/2012 22:44

I've tried to ring him a few times today AF, the last time about three quarters of an hour ago. He's not picking up, and he lives about 30 mins drive away.

I've had a glass or two of wine so it's maybe not the best time for a conversation anyway. I've switched my phone off now but I doubt he'd ring back tonight, he has an early shift tomorrow so my guess is he's already in bed.

I think I need to be very clear headed when I finally do talk to him. He'll freeze me out as usual, I'm sure. That will make it a whole lot easier.

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AnyFuckerForAMincePie · 21/12/2012 22:52

He often ignores your calls for a whole day ?

Anniegetyourgun · 21/12/2012 23:14

Look on the bright side: if he's afraid to talk to you ever again you won't need to find the right words with which to dump him. Effectively, he's dumped himself.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 21/12/2012 23:38

Yes, it used to piss me off no end. Sometimes he ignored me for three days or so. His excuse was that he was leaving me to "calm down" and that he didn't want to listen to me getting upset. Despite me saying that I only cried out of frustration when he froze me out.

He'll be cross over the fact I've arranged to see my friends instead of him tomorrow. If we were both off on a Sunday he liked me to stay at his on the Saturday night.

He doesn't like this particular set of friends because it's a mixed crowd, mainly emergency services. For some reason he thinks they're a bunch of arses but they're not. They work hard and they like to have fun when they're out. We've been friends for the last 5 years or so. I've seen them once a fortnight since we've been going out but mainly on Thursday or Friday nights.

I think he would have liked me to see them less often but my friends are important to me. He doesn't have any friends other than work colleagues, he used to have one or two good friends but they had a major falling out a couple of years ago and he hasn't been in touch since.

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MaryMungoAndMidgies · 21/12/2012 23:40

Annie, that made me Grin

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izzyizin · 21/12/2012 23:42

Is there anything positive about this arse guy? Nope? Thought not.

I can't wait for you to be shot of him, honey.

thenightsky · 21/12/2012 23:43

He's ignored you for a whole day... that day being your birthday?? Shock

Cut him loose OP. You are worth so much more. xxx

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 22/12/2012 00:22

I'm looking at the empty wine bottle. I didn't word my earlier post very well, my birthday is tomorrow Blush, I meant I would have to tell him on my birthday.. but thank you for early birthday wishes!

He is working an early shift plus overtime tomorrow, so he wouldn't have been able to pick me up until after 10.30pm anyway. As I'm working both Christmas eve, Christmas day, New Year's eve and day, I wanted to enjoy myself a little so it was easy to agree to go out when they called Thursday morning. I wouldn't have seen him all day anyway and the alternative was to sit in on my own. It was nice of them, this is a rubbish time of year to have a birthday, people are skint or very busy trying to get things organised as a rule so I appreciated their kind gesture.

We did have plans for the Sunday, a lazy day watching old films. I still fancy doing that. But on my own.

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MaryMungoAndMidgies · 22/12/2012 00:25

Took too long to write that post. My birthday is today. Can't believe the time. That's the wine again. Blush

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izzyizin · 22/12/2012 00:56

Thanks HAPPY BIRTHDAY Thanks and many more of them, honey.

Why are you making excuses for having made plans to spend your birthday doing what you want to do?

Have a great day and don't waste any of it calling or texting the twunt again. If you're out or in tomorrow night, I suggest you turn your phone off and concentrate on enjoying yourself..

The time to tell him he's dumped will be when you eventually get to speak to him again and, until then, put him out of your mind.

MaryMungoAndMidgies · 22/12/2012 02:40

Thank you izzy!

The phone will be off. I will be enjoying myself, they are a very loyal bunch and I know they'll make it a good, fun night for me.

The more hours go by, the clearer about this I'm feeling. I re-read the article that Cog posted, it's brilliant. I have been tiptoeing round him for too bloody long. I must get out of the habit of making excuses for enjoying myself. It's something I may have done a lot of this year. The appeasing thing. It's obviously become second nature over the past months. Thank you for pointing it out izzy, I must try to sort that!

Off to bed now, but just wanted to say thank you for everyone's support and advice over the last couple of days. Huge help.

Thanks
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Izzyschangelingisarriving · 22/12/2012 06:44

Have a great birthday free of the tosser

pictish · 22/12/2012 08:21

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Grin Thanks Wine

Now listen to me birthday girl! This man is a dud.
He makes shit up, he dislikes your friends, he has none of his own, he sulks for days on end...and he uses his fabricated childhood to explain it all away!

It's madness. Consider ditching his fucked up arse as the best birthday present you could give to yourself. The liberty of not spending your life with this complete loser.

Have a great night!!!!

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