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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - Spicing Up The Winter Nights With Rich Hot Chocolate And Thermal Tights!

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Mouseface · 27/11/2012 21:13

Hello, I'm Mouse Smile

I'm one of the Brave Babes travelling on this fantabulous Bus, on it's journey to the wonderful world of sobriety. Smile

The great thing is, that the people on here are a real mixed bunch. Some are drinking regularly, some aren't. Some are sober and have been for any number of days, some weeks, months and yep, some even for years.

There's no judging pants allowed, no savoury flans either Wink, just lots of unconditional support from many varied sources. Yes, some of us have been here from the start but please don't let that stop you posting, this thread is for EVERYONE and it always has been Smile

If you'd like to have a look back, here are some links. One to the previous thread and one to the very first, and the reason we are all still here.

See you soon,

Mouse xx

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babyjane1 · 19/12/2012 13:23

Omg a week today is Boxing Day, yikes!!!! X x x x

PurpleWolfe · 19/12/2012 14:44

Thanks Faire, Soma and Joey. Me and my boy have had a totally lazy day - and yes, Faire, wouldn't wish it on him, but not having to organise an after school party today has taken a huge weight off.

Yes, Soma, thanks for the kind words. Trying to be really laid back, taking my lead from him - I think anything more would scare him! He's an ex prep school/public school (possibly a boarder) boy and I've found that, sometimes, those guys find expressing their feelings a little difficult - or is that just me? Sent him a text today which said "Thank you for dinner last night ( he paid ), it was lovely and I really enjoyed your company. Looking forward to the next time" and wondered whether that was too much!! It took him over a week to add a 'x' to his texts!! He was a bit 'stiff' on the first date but really relaxed last night and seemed to enjoy himself. Just could NOT see myself snogging Mr DB7 - but Tasty Farmer - oh, yes!! Grin. He is definitely fanciable! Slowly, slowly catchy monkey! (Hopefully!)

Joey - The local school have about a third of the children off with various bugs Sad at the moment. I'm just hoping whatever they/we have will clear before Christmas.

Definitely going to be in the side car for a while. Trying to get the gumption together to bag my seat on the Bus once again after Christmas.

Luffs you all. xxxxxxx

Greyhound · 19/12/2012 16:15

Back again! Still drinking, but have cut down. Thinking of doing that Dry January thing - if I get friends to sponsor me, I'll feel obliged to stay off the booze...

Joey re. the mucky guy with the pot of wee under the bed - well, he hasn't been around much lately which has been a relief. The days he is around see him sleeping all day as per usual. Luckily, the dog comes out to me now. She used to hide under bed (next to the wee - yuck) and I had to go under the bed and get her - ick.

He really is a revolting man. It has occurred to me that he may be depressed. However, I know what depression is like and have been known to sleep a lot during the day during bad patches. The difference with him is that this is 'normal' to him and has been for many years.

Hope everyone is ok.

aliasjoey · 19/12/2012 16:32

greyhound that guy is disgusting, don't know how your friend puts up with it!

DD temperature has come down, but barely eaten anything today. hopefully DH can look after her tomorrow.

feel tired and lazy, guilty for not looking after DD better, lethargic as usual. confused about antidepressants. a bit anxious about drinking over Christmas....

Greyhound · 19/12/2012 16:42

Hi Joey - feel the same re. guilt and worrying about Xmas drinking. The trouble with Christmas is that so much of it is about overindulgence being acceptable. In fact, it seems to be mandatory...

Sorry your dd isn't well - must be tiring for you all.

Re. antidepressants - are you on them at the mo? What is it about them that is bothering you? I've been on them for about 18 years. I am glad of them as they do keep me well most of the time. However, the side effects for me include weight gain and lethargy - not a good combination with wine.

The wee wee guy is repellent, even when he isn't comatose in his bed. Sometimes, I find him up and about and he absolutely STINKS of BO. I don't know if he ever washes. I saw him today and found myself holding my breath whilst I was near him. He is a good warning with regards to the perils of over indulgence in narcotics. Ha - I can talk. I drink my legal drug to excess...

greeneyed · 19/12/2012 16:49

Greyhound Just checked out that dry January thing - might sign up, not sure I could get anyone to sponsor me though - I guess they'd probably think it wasn't that much of an effort? (except it is for me!)

Would recommend everyone clicks on this link and does the what will you look like if you keep on drinking in 10 years app - scary! www.dryjanuary.org.uk/

Joey hope your DD is getting better - dito, tired, lazy confused etc I so want to retreat to my fantasy "white room"

aliasjoey · 19/12/2012 17:18

the story with the antidepressants is complicated, which is why I'm so confused. I was on seroxat for 10 years without any problems. then I started getting bad insomnia, fatigue, muscle aches etc so the GP switched me to mirtazapine. that was in May. I also climbed on the Bus, and cut down on drinking.

since then it's just been Confused the mirtazapine doesn't do much for the anxiety and depression. another gp tried me on Prozac, but I quit because of sleep problems. then I had a mad spell and they prescribed valium. now I'm taking an increased dose of mirtazapine, and the Prozac. the doctor said that was unnecessary, but I was desperate - one doc told me that mirtaz on its own wasn't enough to control depression. I guess I have been told conflicting things by different GPs, which doesn't help...

I suppose I'm trying to find a balance between controlling mood and helping sleep, but it feels like a precarious balance! add alcohol into the mix, and I'm just in a big muddle.

Mouseface · 19/12/2012 17:18

Afternoon, tis me, Mouse

So sorry to have you all asking after me when you have your own lives and things to sort out. Xmas Blush

DD has been poorly, norovirus, so been very pukey and not at all well. I had to leave her at home alone yesterday (school day for Nemo) as DH was out working so felt terrible for that. Xmas Sad

Nemo is FULL of a heavy cold, his mouth is so, so, so, sore, and has been sick from coughing. His reflux is bad so he's on little and often feed wise. He's asleep atm.

I managed to have a fall into a fire door with him in my arms, whilst at school, he was okay because you always save them don't you, but I smashed my elbow (blood and swelling) so that's hurting today......

I'm shattered, DH is away tomorrow and it's supposed to be Nemo's nativity too..... and his last day.

That's me..................................

Now then, I've skimmed back and want to say a huge HELLO to the lovely new Babes.

We're officially 6 sleeps away from Christmas and it's time to really start thinking about taking your life a day at a time. Taking control of your life and STOP WORRYING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT HAPPENED YET!

Seriously, those who are sure they don't want to and will not drink, then great, I'm sure you don't and won't. Take the pressure off. There's a lot of pressure on us all to be 'sociable', join in, let our hair down and have some fun.

Hmm.............. fun?

Waking up feeling like deep fried dog vomit isn't my idea of fun. Every other advert on the TV or in the newspapers is booze related. But that's the same as last year, and the year before, I know there are ads for other things like sofa's, perfume, food but for some reason, the 'special offers' on spirits and wines draw my attention to the TV much more so.... strange that isn't it? Xmas Hmm

They all have the 'drinkaware' logo on them I think, but that's not the point. Buying a new sofa or an M&S turkey dinner for 2 isn't going to fuck your life up, start a fight, an argument, a row with someone you loved before you got pissed, nor make you scream at the kids because you want to watch something and they're making too much noise....

That extra glass or four will and can. In a heartbeat. Think. If you don't want to drink, then DON'T!

Plan. Plan what you are going to drink, get it now. DH has 3 cases of Becks Blue which is 0.5% proof and I have loads of soft drinks in. Diet Coke, cranberry juice, pomegranate etc....

I've been thinking about all of the advertising and think they need to have the same rules/laws on advertising, displaying and sensationalising alcohol at Christmas (or whenever) as they do for smoking and other addictive substances.

Sainsbury's have their tobacco products behind a closed cabinet type thing here..... I don't smoke but I noticed it and thought how brilliant it was.

However, there are PILES of beers, wine, spirits, all over the shops, all over the place!

Posters - drink me

Offers - buy me

Exclusives - you need me

Promotions - limited edition bottle/flavour/once in a lifetime

It's all there, right in front of you. Shouting you. Telling you to buy them because you won't survive without them will you? You can't get through Christmas without having alcohol in your system.

Really?

I'm here to tell you that you bloody well can. But you have to want to. With every single inch of your skin, every single fibre of your being, every single ounce of your resolve.

And, for those who want to NOT drink (or over do it) this Christmas, or today, tomorrow and the days after that, get yourselves here! The Bus is magically trained and will expand to accommodate as many Babes as needed, as and when so come one, come all!

Get thee on this journey to a safe and happier Christmas. What have you got to lose by not getting off your face? We're all in this together (Guinness advert on, followed by Disaronno) as I typed that last line.......

And to those who can't give up yet, stay anyway on the Bus, stay and be looked after. At least if you're here, you know that we can empathise with you and give you some tough love as well as water, snuggles, mince pies and somewhere to sleep it off.

Sorry for the sermon but I wanted to get it off my shrinking chest! Xmas Grin

Since I've stopped hammering the wine, I've lost 1.8 stone. Thought I'd just slip that in as my eating is now much more under control.... it does settle down, the eating to replace the booze and eating biscuits and cake isn't going to kill you is it?

Well, unless you choke on an a After Eight Mint! Xmas Grin

Come on Babes, why not try to make this year a year to remember for all of the happiest and right reasons? Xmas Smile

Mouse xx

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greeneyed · 19/12/2012 17:25

starts quiet ripple of applause for Mouse You are my hero - to have all that crap going on and not come here and moan but give us babes a pep talk is amazing - thank you brave and wise one!!Xmas Smile

greeneyed · 19/12/2012 17:27

Right thanks Mouse - I'm getting off my fat bottom and this internet and going to do something productive! Good wishes all babes for battling the witch this evening! xx

SobaSoma · 19/12/2012 17:33

Sorry to hear about your troubles dear Mouse but thank you as ever for your wonderful, encouraging post. Maybe we should start a campaign to get alcohol advertising banned? It really is hypocritical that it's allowed but I can see a time, as with cigarettes, when it's no longer tolerated.

Grey who the hell is wee man - have I missed something? Purple no your text to TF was not OTT, it was grown-up and polite - try not to over-think and just go with the flow. He sounds so promising and you just have to tell yourself that if he likes you (which I'm sure he does), things will develop at their own pace. God I sound so sensible, have the most awful relationship track record and the early stages are hellish! Got the usual 3 bottles of lovely wine from work as an Xmas present - how's that for a present for GPs to give their staff! I intend not to drink any of them personally but wish they'd given us vouchers instead.

Mouseface · 19/12/2012 19:31

greeny - I'm just saying it like it is, that's all Xmas Smile Big hugs to you, hope life is being kind.

Soma - maybe we should........ Maybe I should be having a chat with MNHQ about their next campaign in the NY? Seriously though, people accept alcohol too readily. They always have, speak to any generation and it was a huge part of their lives in one for or another.

Nan used to drink when PG with my mother and hers before her etc.... smoking too but why target just one abusive substance?

I mean the government etc.... The Powers That Be? I don't think so. The Powers That Can't Be Arsed!

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WineyAunt · 19/12/2012 19:47

Day 3 and am lying in the bath reading the very 1st thread (I remember reading it 1st time round) and wow wow wow JWN have only read the 1st 2 weeks but you were amazing a real inspiration Grin
This is the first time since last pregnancy 7 years ago!!!! That I have gone so long without a drink I am so determined to do it. Sweats are still bad thoughHmm

WineyAunt · 19/12/2012 19:49

Oh and great post mouse Smile

aliasjoey · 19/12/2012 19:53

a wonderful ppost mouse and so thoughtful of you to take ttime to post in the middle of all your worries.

soma do not ask about wee man - you do NOT want to know!

dementedma · 19/12/2012 20:24

hey mouse great post. I am really gearing up for stopping and getting in shape. I need to lose at least two stone as I HATE the way I look and find it really depressing. We have our work slunch on Friday and I really dont want to go as all tops too small, or gapping and I feel so ugly. All my own fault and only me can change it. will check out dry january - sounds motivational.
sorry all the family are poorly - poor you. Was going to ask if you had had a chance to listen to dd's singing but I think I can work out the answer to that one Grin
she is going to be singing live on TV at Hogmanay with the choir in George Square in Glasgow. A great chance for her but no way of getting home from there to here. so will have to try and find a hotel. A hotel in Glasgow on auld year's night which hasn't at least doubled its prices, assuming it has any room at all!
There will be no room at the Inn for this particular wandering minstrel!

helpyourself · 19/12/2012 20:27

(( MouseandalltheBraveBabes ))
Thanks and Brew all round.

KoalaKube · 19/12/2012 23:13

Hiya Babes - just been to my 2nd AA meeting womens group tonight it was all soft lighting scented candles fairy cakes and lovely ladies. Bit like I imagine the Bus to be - every age, background, personality and experience - but vey warm and welcoming. Won't be around for a couple of days as off to london early tomorrow to meet up with my DDs. Strangley booked a 'boutique B&B' above a Gastropub 10 days ago before my sobriety how ironic is that!!

Anyway good luck with the wine witch girls and I WILL NOT BE DRINKING WHILE AWAY FROM YOU ALL.

greeneyed · 20/12/2012 08:42

Koala that's great- how are you feeling now? You sound so much better - have a lovely sober time.

Ma I'm with you on the weight and feeling horrible. I'm up for dry January do you want to do it with me? Would definately kick start the weightloss. greyhound are you going to do it? We can do it babes we really can,

Joey I hope you get your drugs sorted x

PurpleWolfe · 20/12/2012 08:55

Thanks again Soma Really really trying not to over-think things but..... Smile Dating at my age (hanging on the the last few weeks of 50) feels rather ridiculous as it is! Most men in my 'dating age range' have children who have grown up and left home and want someone footloose, that can be spontaneous too. My youngest is only 6 so I've got a few years to go before I can be a bit more 'available'. Text back from TF yesterday which included - "You're welcome, enjoyed last night as well". Nice - but just nice. Patience, Purple, patience!!

I'm pretty sure DS1 now has the winter vomiting bug and looks very poorly this morning. His temp is really high. I've decided to keep both the boys off now 'til after Christmas. DS2 is also complaining he doesn't feel well - but then he never likes to be left out of a bit of sympathy. Besides, getting just one boy to school is more work than two! PLEASE can we all be well for Christmas - oh - and we are supposed to be going to the panto on Saturday and will have to pay for the tickets whether we go or not. Xmas Sad. Still feeling pretty crappy myself today (and a bit 'icky' but that might just be because DS1 has been ill?!). Coughing through the night ensured I didn't get much sleep either.

It does feel a bit like one thing after another here just now - or is that just me making excuses to myself for being in the side car? Xmas Hmm I'm not sure I realised how hard it was going to be, being the single Mum to 3 children. Ho hum, just got to get on with it.

Ma How exciting for your DD - and you! Don't forget to set the DVD player! Joey Hoping you are in less of a 'muddle'? And, Green, I love the sound of your fantasy White Room! Tell us more? x

Mouse Hope your elbow (broke my elbow once - bloody painful!) and DC's colds are better. Lovely, lovely post. Xmas Grin

Koti, where are you. You OK? x

Sending hugs to all the Babes and hoping everyone gets better, really soon!

PurpleWolfe · 20/12/2012 09:00

Dry January? Sign me up too, please? x

SobaSoma · 20/12/2012 09:33

Koala you sound in such a positive frame of mind; the AA meeting sounds great, we have a candle-lit one here too which I keep meaning to go to. Have a lovely time with your girls. Purple I know exactly what you mean about dating at "our age" (I'm 55) but I've met quite a few men who still had dependent children. I had DD when I was 42 so I'm only just beginning to feel I can go off and do my own thing although an advantage of being divorced is that you have plenty of time without the kids. I think you should let TF make the next move (in terms of asking you for a date that is) - do you think you can manage it?

Joey please don't make me have to read back to find out about wee man - just an unembelished explanation will do! How are you today? I'm finding one of the really positive things about not drinking is that I'm not constantly obsessing/planning about when to have my next drink and don't have to worry about the aftermath. I feel some kind of mental shift has happened in that I can see how very much easier it is not to drink. But as ever, watch this space. Ma you must be so proud of DD, where did she get her voice from? Do you have anything to do with it?

I thought I'd start a list of women in the public eye who've kicked the booze (writers mostly): Caroline Knapp, Clarissa Dickson-Wright, Sally Brampton, Tania Glyde, Anne Robinson. Feel free to add...

PurpleWolfe · 20/12/2012 10:08

I'll try Soma Xmas Grin, I'll try! We did discuss meeting over Christmas and we left it that I would let him know the days I was free. I'm free on Friday but really don't see myself getting my act together by then so I'll skip that one and will inform him of free days after that. xx

guggenheim · 20/12/2012 14:13

hi babes

Spent last night in the sidecar- glasses of white wine down. Oh well, back on the bus I get. Shove over you lot Xmas Grin

That candlelit AA meeting is exactly what I need. I'm still hesitating about going for all variety of stupid reasons. Good for you Koala.

Can you all stop telling me your ages please? I imagine all babes as being glam 30 somethings, fresh faced with swishy hair.

Right, I'm ploughing my way through the Tania Glyde. Very interesting read, it's a bit disjointed in places so I suspect that some of the sections were written early on in her recovery. She had a grim,grim life on drugs. An empty,horrible, disaffected existence. Looking forward to the part when she begins her recovery.

Julie Burchill the journalist, I think. And Flylady, I read her site,sometimes I close my eyes to do this because it is a bit beyond the beyond, I'm sure she talks about drinking too much before she sorted her life out.

dementedma · 20/12/2012 14:58

fresh faced with swishy hair Grin

DD doesnt get her lovely voice from me, that's for sure. I sing like a constipated duck.

I am apprehensive about Dry January....ridiculous. 31 days without booze and it makes me feel scared. Perhaps I have a drink problem....Xmas Hmm