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Should I talk to him about this or will I look needy?

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blazingoreos · 16/10/2012 16:04

Have been seeing my boyfriend for 8 months. We see each other about 4 nights of the week, kids permitting.

He has never given me any cause for concern regarding his trustworthiness. He is open about looking at his Facebook/email in front of me and is always where he says he will be etc. No change at all in how he behaves towards me and we are getting on fine.

Onto the issue... he works with a woman who I will call Sarah. She is attractive, over 10 years younger than me and single. They don't work in the same office any more but 15 miles apart. However, they talk over email or phone every day as she is in charge of staff rotas and he is in charge of his staff's duties and they're fairly friendly and chatty. So far, so normal? Anyway, he told me the other month that she made it fairly clear she fancied him.. asking if he was single etc. He responded with telling her about me as he wanted to nip any of that stuff in the bud immediately. She made a comment about his girlfriend being lucky, he joked back that I might not say that and that was the end of it. They continue to talk duties over email as well as general chit chat. they're also friends on fb after she requested him.

He has been upfront about the above. When he told me, i had a minor wobble and he was reassuring, said he had no interest in any other woman, that he was happy with what he had and that i was the only one for him. He teased me a bit about it, I laughed too and that should be the end of it.

Unfortunately i cannot shake it off and i have no idea why? Me and him chat on and off all day over an iphone app that allows you to see when the other person was last online. If I see he was last online say, 30 minutes ago, but didn't send me a message I am worried that he was chatting to her. To my knowledge he doesn't talk to her outside of work, ive never known it at all. He also doesn't talk to her on his personal iphone - everything is via work or his work email.... yesterday he was off work very unwell. He was looking at his work emails on his blackberry next to me and one was from her. it just said ' how are you feeling now? ' and I pointed it out and said ' aww, how sweet ' and he just laughed.

So..what to do? I'm feeling jealous and insecure. I also [ to be honest ] have previous for this in other relationships. I am fairly suspicious by nature and to reiterate, he has never caused me any problem re his trustworthiness.

Do I talk to him and sound clingy and needy? And what do i say ? ' I'm jealous and worried because I saw a message on your work mobile which you know and all it said was ' how are you feeling? ' That sounds stupid! But how did she know at 10am he was ill? Did he specifically email her to tell her? God knows!

He has reassured me about this once, only a month or so ago. But i am really stewing here. Am I being an idiot? WWYD?

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overmydeadbody · 16/10/2012 17:32

I don't agree with ClippedPhoenix actually.

I think he sounds like a decent man, he told you becuase he is in the habit of sharing things with you, nothing wrong with that. He accepted her on FB because he saw no reason not to, and he is probably a nice decent man. If my DP declined a FB request from a female colleague who he had daily communication with and got on with as a friend it would be very odd and strange.

OP I tihnk you just need to let him know you are a bit insecure, without coming across as needy. If he is a decent man he will understand, comfort you and reassure you, without changing what he does or tihnking you are telling him to change.

blazingoreos · 16/10/2012 17:38

maleview - well, I'd like to say that that would be the end of it but unfortunately the insecure mind is never satisfied is it? I am trying to work out if these are my instincts kicking in or I am just being insecure.

Incidentally, he knows nothing of this. He would describe me as laid back and cool. I hide it from him because jealous and needy are not attractive qualities and I am self aware enough to realise that they are entirely my issues and not his. I'm not a complete fool though, living in a land of paranoia , so part of me wonders if I am feeling normal instincts.

I am not going to tell him I feel insecure or needy. I am going to be upfront < wibbles a bit > and ask him for clarification and to tell me if he is talking to her outside of work. I wont say it in an accusatory way - i will ask it matter of factly and say it has been on my mind recently but im not entirely sure why that is.

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overmydeadbody · 16/10/2012 17:39

I too think you need to stop the constant online communication with each other too.

Have some space and some times in the day when you're not both online. So what if he is online and not chatting to you? Everyone deserves time when they are not with their partner or talking to their partner.

Quite often when I am online I can see that DP is also online on skype or google. I often ignore it. We sometimes say hi or have a quick conversation, but I would hate it if DP expected me to always chat to him if we were both online. I have other things to do and other people to chat to.

Op you need to remember that he chooses to be with you, and he will continue to do so unless he chooses not to, and nothing you do or he does will change that.

Just because he doesn't say good morning to you as soon as he is online doesn't mean anything.

And Sarah might have known he was sick because maybe he mentioned it the day before, that he was feeling unwell?

blazingoreos · 16/10/2012 17:42

OMDB - Thanks. It is not 'online' as in sat in front of a PC - it is an iphone app very much like text messaging but quicker. So, I can see [ and i'm being daft here! ] that he has been online 4 times in the past hour or so. You only go 'online' to send a message - so, me being mental today - is wondering who he is messaging. I know he has other friends on this app though, not just me!

We dont text all day constantly. Quick chat in the morning. on and off through the day if we have something to say etc... and then we use it to chat over in the evenings that we dont see each other.

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HappyHalloweenMotherFucker · 16/10/2012 18:12

I am glad there wasn't this possibility of continually monitoring each other's activities when I was a-courtin'

I'd have got into a whole heap of trouble so early on in my relationship with my H, by these standards. When I wasn't with him, we weren't "checking in" all the time, we were getting on with our lives. And until we were in a fully-committed relationship, that would often involve < shock horror > talking to people of the opposite sex and even flirting.

He's just your boyfriend, isn't he? Can you not just calm down a bit ? ? Unless you have had the chat where you forsake all others forever (ie. got married/living together in a LTR) I dunno why people have to drive themselves crazy with this stuff.

If he cheats on you, bin him. Stop expecting it, and you will enjoy your relationship better. Dump this "app" (whatever the hell that is)

ClippedPhoenix · 16/10/2012 18:19

Ah but the OP has had a "wobble" so he does know and that was before the "ooh look she fancies me" episode and the facebook acceptance.

ClippedPhoenix · 16/10/2012 18:20

If I were you OP, I'd mention nothing, stop the constant contact and see what happens.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/10/2012 07:47

"I am not going to tell him I feel insecure or needy."

If you persist in being dishonest with him, you are making a massive mistake. "Asking him for clarification" about talking outside work is going to come across as a between-the-eyes accusation. If he takes it badly because you're hiding a fairly serious personal problem, you have only yourself to blame

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:06

I view it slightly differently Cog. When a person is insecure/jealous/paranoid it is THEIR responsibility to deal with it. These are irrational thoughts and feelings and I know how I'd feel if someone tried to dump them on me.

I spoke to him and he was reassuring. He was a bit bemused and perplexed and slightly amused. Told me i was being daft etc. They speak once a day or so over email regarding the rota and they chat at the same time as he considers her a 'work colleague he gets on with '. I know this is the truth and i also know that this is my issue. I know it is my issue because this is a recurring theme for me, on and off

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/10/2012 09:11

It is not 'dumping' irrational thoughts and feelings on someone to tell them that you have problems trusting others. Why do you think he's bemused and perplexed by that conversation? Why does he think you are 'daft' and 'amusing'? Because you're still hiding the truth and only given him half the story.... Hmm

If you were irrationally frightened of heights wouldn't it be better to tell a partner, get their understanding and allow them to make adjustments... rather than accept the surprise visit to the Space Needle, be annoyed with them but not explain why?

SirSugar · 17/10/2012 09:13

OP you said he 'often jokes about his queue of women' Hmm

Why are you taking responsibility for his insensitivity, even if he dresses it up as a joke? You cannot tell me that when he says something 'jokey' your body language/facial expressions do not give him some kind of hint that you are less than comfortable with this?

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:16

He reallyis joking though Sugar. He does it often and I'm not sure what I do actually! I laugh if it's funny or I give him a 'look' and he laughs a bit more.

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SirSugar · 17/10/2012 09:17

And, its always questionable when you raise a concern and the other person acts surprised and calls you daft - they should be apologetic for their ignorance

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:17

COG - He would run a mile, that's why.

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SirSugar · 17/10/2012 09:19

Do you like his jokes?

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:20

Yes, he was a little taken aback. He did give me a cuddle and called me a stupid bugger. Said he was quite happy as he was etc etc. He is not very good at this sort of thing though - he hates anything heavy going or giving him grief etc so I can't go on too much about it. As is my tendency to do so.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/10/2012 09:20

Then he's either incredibly shallow or you're assuming the worst. All the time you hide the real you, there is no way of knowing which applies. Dishonest, deceit and secrecy no matter how well-intentioned are not healthy in a relationship....

claudedebussy · 17/10/2012 09:20

i don't think you're being unreasonable but i also think he sounds trustworthy.

take him at his word and i'd also ask him to stop with the 'queue of women' jokes.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 17/10/2012 09:21

If he hates anything 'heavy going', aren't you simply with the wrong person?

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:22

Do i like his jokes? Umm, I don't actually know. Not really. It depends.

That's not very clear is it?

They are jokes in that they are one liners. I'll say ' Right, I'm off home now! ' and he'll look at his watch and say ' OK, just in time for the next one to pop in! ' or I'll tell him to do something /wear something and he'll jokingly grumble ' Oh Sarah wouldn't speak to me like you do ' - but obviously joking and smiling etc.

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dreamingbohemian · 17/10/2012 09:23

Can you articulate why you have these insecurities? Previous relationships, family background?

It doesn't sound like he has done anything to warrant so much suspicion. Even if he is talking to her outside work, so what? He's allowed to have female friends, just as you have male friends.

If you have form for this, it's really worth getting to the bottom of it and sorting it out. You're not going to be able to hide it forever. You're probably not even hiding it as well as you think right now.

blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:23

cog - he is extremely shallow, yes. He fully admits this. Looks are important to him.

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blazingoreos · 17/10/2012 09:25

Dreaming - well, yes. I know why I am like I am. And I choose the same partner over and over again. They are all very very different but they all have the same traits, if that makes sense.

So, yeah, I have a complete awareness of why I am like I am. I know why I am choosing the 'same' man. Unfortunately knowing why and actually changing myself after decades of the same shit prove very difficult for me.

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dreamingbohemian · 17/10/2012 09:26

oh dear, x-post

So he hates anything heavy or giving him grief. Hmm. I found for myself, whenever I had boyfriends like this, I was always more needy and insecure.

Do you have form for insecurity because you tend to go out with men who are emotionally distant or shallow, who you know you can't really talk to about stuff?

SirSugar · 17/10/2012 09:26

My H used to do that sort of thing, one liners about sending my friends round if I was going out - he turned into a right abusive cunt