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can you spare some time to read , especially the end bit , i need help

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amillionpieces · 06/10/2012 23:46

before i go on i just want to say that although this post is really about negative stuff (wouldnt need to post otherwise) i am aware that that can give a false impression as you dont know me at all. dp and i do have a laugh at times , dp can be very giving , everyone that knows me says how much he loves me etc he genuinely seems to want to have a happy family but does struggle with things i think due to an abusive and not too great childhood.

anyway , we met when i was 17 , thats 20 years ago and i think i have lived a rather limited existence since then. We have 2 children 13 and 16.
i have been a sahm ever since , except for periods where i worked as a cleaner (just cash in hand , peoples houses) i never really had a decent job to go back to after the children and with having no childcare and dp working long unsociable hours i never found anything i could do. have applied for things with no success and the last few years had such problems with ds2 (currently being assessed for asd) that i have needed to be here before and after school so i have been at home.
i do feel a bit of a failure really and its also partly due to a huge loss of confidence in myself.

now , the problem, i cannot talk to anyone in RL i feel embarassed and i have been turning this over and over since yesterday.

dp and i had alot of sex (as you do) in the early days . when ds1 came along it was a huge shock to me. i was 19 , i felt out of my depth and very anxious. dp had (still has) a really really high sex drive. at the time an issue arose because i just wasnt up to sex and he was really narked. his response wasnt good , he lost his temper with it at times and did things like slamming door of bedroom and shouting waking the baby up . called me a bitch and generally creating a massive upset which completely made an issue of sex for me and seemed to put me off ever since.
we have had sex less and less over the last 10 years , i used to do it even when i didnt want to some of the time to keep him happy but eventually as i matured and his attitude with it put me off more and more i started to be practically unable to even manage that.
he once got really narked , and one morning wanked in a pair of my knickers and left them for me to find .
i was shocked and upset and although that was about 8 years ago i still thi nk of it now.
i have had times when i have had a couple of weeks of doing it but he always upsets me over something , theres an argument and i feel distanced from him again.

fast forward to now, ds2 is a major problem. i am heartbroke over him. he keeps having massive meltdowns , smashing my house up , problems at school . i find it really hard to cope.
dp works away , a couple of nights a week and i have found myself pleading that he doesnt do the nights away which stresses dp out and also we havent had sex for ages . we have loads of disputes about how to manage things etc etc and i dont feel very close to dp.

dp wakes me up at night wanking at the side of me which i hate .

whilst dp was away this week ds2 had a meltdown which resulted in me being exhausted , bruised and emotional . we had an appointment at camhs this week , they are looking into autism. but , as always (dont know why) dp chooses then to rake up the fact that we arent having sex and maybe we should just split up (said this loads and changed his mind) it seems that nothing would be a problem to him so long as there was sex.

i told him that because we arent getting on and probably because of things in the past i just dont want to . that he cant give me what i need either because hes always either working or gaming with headphones on.
an argument ensued and i ended up saying that all i could do then was have sex regardless of my feelings , if thats all he cares about , that ok , lets just do it when i feel crap.
he listed evrything that he thinks is crap about me . my cooking and alsorts.

3am the next morning and hes wanking at the side of me in bed . he finishes and nudges me awake. i asked him what was going on and he was looking at me really angrily and got my hand and said 'put your hand on my dick'
so with my hand there im asking why he would want me to , after what was said earlier , knowing how i feel . he said that thats what i said id do. i said i wouldnt really have expected that he'd want me to knowing I didnt want to also.
i jumped up saying i couldnt handle this it felt horrible and he said that what id said earlier was horrible. all confused and tears streaming i said well yes i did and kind of got hold of him again but he was being nasty and he was putting his hands down my pants even though i was crying.
i ended up leaping out of bed and saying no its all wrong . we argued and he left for work.

i got a text message soon after saying, sorry. i did mean to upset you but its backfired because now i feel like driving off a bridge.

i am so confused . if you have read all this i thank you wholeheartedly.

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IllageVidiot · 07/10/2012 01:10

Sowornout - really? It was on a knife edge that amillionpieces would be raped in her own home by her 'D'P - but saying 'he's a sexual abuser, leave him is very fair'. Frankly I am stunned and appalled at your attitude and find your platitudes hollow in the extreme. Had we all known how easy it was to talk abusers out of abusing people then no-one would ever live in fear again, because well we can just talk it out, honestly. I can't even construct a rebuttal because I find your opinion bizzarre and dangerous in the extreme.

Amillion - Please consider womens aid. Speak to them even if you can't face a decision yet because things feel so confused. They will not judge you, they will be able to talk you through things and access help for moving on, including your DS.
Your P is not going to stop this - it is escalating and is cruel. Have you heard of the mean and sweet cycle?
You are not alone. You are also not the only parent trying to struggle on with a DS suffering so badly - but you are naive if you think your partners actions are not having a knock on and obvious effect on all of you, particualrly your son. His behaviours are likely to be more extreme than a NT child's due to his way of processing emotion and feeling things he cannot process himself. His father doesn't respect you in any way and that will make things so much harder for you when it comes to trying to help your son.
None of this is your fault. You are not to blame for anything. But you can make the choice to be safe and to get help. You deserve respect and are worth a lot more than this.

BTW I am an abused child - I know many abuse survivors. Most people make the choice to be healthy, nearly all of us don't go on to hurt our loved ones. It benefits your partner to behave this way, to dangle his abuse as a 'reason' - the reason is he has chosen to hurt you, that's the truth. It is a choice. Only he can choose not to. But he wont while he can do this - I am honestly concerned as to what he is working up to doing to you. Hypersexuality or inappropriate sexual conduct can be symptoms of abuse - but they are not inviolate rules and compunctions - he is not forced, you are; you did not choose, he did.

Please take care and think deeply. You have as many rights as anyone, you are worth a lot, you deserve respect.

amillionpieces · 07/10/2012 01:17

illage, thanks for your post . i think it will never get better now as i may not be able to forget this latest incident and have sex even if he were to change.
i dont dispute you are right but would just like to say that it was me that suggested to dp a long while ago that some of his negativity was due to his upbringing and that maybe he should get counselling , which he did but it didnt seem to be any good.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 07/10/2012 01:22

Regardless of reasons or blame, one thing seems clear here: your relationship as a couple has ended.Sad

Perhaps you both need to recognize this and make the changes you need.

IllageVidiot · 07/10/2012 01:25

It often doesn't if the person being counselled doesn't want to change.

You suggested it, he went - but unless he accepted what had happened, accepted his behaviour was wrong and why and then seriously engaged with the counsellour - or agreed he needed the help of other MH services nothing will be different.

I posit this is because he can't accept that, he feels he isn't in the wrong and probably isn't concerned about engaging and accepting the past because that is hard and hurtful and difficult and I don't think he sees the need.

I think you got lip service. Otherwise why would he a) have sexually assaulted you and b) as a consequence of that why isn't he arranging more help?
Because he doesn't think he was really wrong - and if he's not wrong it is because his needs are more than yours and he has no respect for you.
That is the answer to your question 'why would he do that (sex/blowjobs/handjobetc) if he knew I was hating it and how I felt?' Because he knows, he just doesn't care.

amillionpieces · 07/10/2012 01:34

ye well i suppose it should have been ralationship counselling with 2 sides of the story , not just his life counselling. his version.
he doesnt think hes wrong now, he said it wasnt abuse because i got up and stopped it without a problem and i was putting my hand on him , not forced .
but i do have the message on my phone which says he intended to upset me .

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amillionpieces · 07/10/2012 01:36

cant get my head around him wanting to hurt me when he seems to try his best for me in other ways . i think his frustrations and anger arent controlled. just like ds2 .

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UltraBOF · 07/10/2012 01:41

You are being abused.

I have been in a relationship like this, but I don't want to describe it really. All I will say is that there is some affection and connection there, and you can build on that as co-parents, but I strongly believe you need to get out of this situation for your own mental health.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 07/10/2012 01:41

But the trying his best is again a smokescreen to make you doubt the abuse.

He bullied you into putting your hand there. I can tell that you didnt want to just from your OP. He could tell at the time. He was there fgs. He saw you cry. And now he us gaslighting you and trying to get out of it.

Im worried for you. This is escalating. What will happen the next time?

amillionpieces · 07/10/2012 01:48

i have been a fool . grand old age of 37 and i have nothing ! dont drive , dont work , dont have a bloody clue !
thankgod for the support on here

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wannabedomesticgoddess · 07/10/2012 01:52

You are not a fool for seeing the best in someone, bringing up children and trying to build a life.

37 isnt too late to do new things and change your life.

amillionpieces · 07/10/2012 01:56

going to get some kip now . thanks again everyone x

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Proudnscary · 07/10/2012 07:31

Arrrrgggghhh @ posters actually advising you on how to resolve your 'sex issue'!!

amillionpieces - your husband IS a TWAT.

He has assaulted you!

How DARE he put his hands down your underwear, wank on you and your clothes!

You are not a fool my love - he has done a HUGE number on you.

I very rarely post about anything personal to my marriage but it's so relevant that I have to. Dh has much higher sex drive than me and it's created problems throughout our relationship. He has NEVER EVER in 17 years, shouted at me about this, hounded me for sex as if it is his right, slammed doors, masturbated on my underwear for me to find (that's very aggressive btw), forced his hands on me. NEVER. Even when he's been furious and frustrated. That's because he truly loves and respects me and I him.

xxx

joblot · 07/10/2012 08:43

37 is young. Seriously. You have the chance to start again without him, though that will seem daunting now. I agree with others, it's not about sex- in my experience it rarely is- it's about how you've been treated and how you feel about him. Who wants to shag someone who thinks they're unequal/lesser?

KatieScarlett2833 · 07/10/2012 08:58

amillionpieces you are intelligent, tenacious and feisty, in short, great. Wink , OTOH your OH is an abusive twat who really does think he is superior to you due to his superman-esque wage earning capacity. Could he have earned a bean if you hadn't been there to care for your DC? I think not.

Please talk to WA.

You can get help with a mortgage.
You can get money to live on.
You can get support with DC.
You can feel at peace in your own home.
You can do this.

amillionyears · 07/10/2012 09:01

Just in case anyone thought this was me,it is not.

monstermissy · 07/10/2012 09:26

My ex partner was similar. My son has autism. While in my relationship my son was very aggressive and angry. He has also picked up knives and once tried to attack his brother with sissors. Once exp left things calmed down no end. He's been gone a year now and everyone comments on the change in my son. He isn't angry or aggressive. He is still s challenge at times but not regular as he was before. He is a loving boy who I believe was totally unable to cope in a household of unhappyness. You can and should start again. I'm starting university next year and as a family we are all much happier. The ex very quickly took up with another women and I feel very sorry for her.

peppapigpants · 07/10/2012 09:34

This is sexual abuse. I have lived through it too. I had no desire for sex with my exH because of the way he behaved towards me and our children. He tried to make me feel as if I was the one with a problem, that I was inadequate, denying him his conjugal rights etc. If I refused, he would badger me for an hour or more. I frequently gave in because I could at least get some sleep. I tried going to bed earlier, later etc but it didn't help. It took me years to refuse completely, and our marriage ended as a result of his behaviour. How can you love someone who treats you like that? Clearly someone who behaves in such a way does not love, value or respect you, you are just a means of sexual gratification.

I divorced him and am now in a new relationship. We met when I was 42. I am happier than I have ever been and I found that there is nothing wrong with me or my sex drive (there wasn't before I met exH either). The only thing that was wrong was the person I was with.

Please don't put up with this, you don't have to.

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