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He wants to separate

586 replies

McBuckers · 09/09/2012 02:06

My DH and I have had a rough couple of years. We live far away from family and close friends and he has a job that involves working evenings and going away for a couple of nights a month.

We have three children - 6, 2 and 3 months. About 10 months ago he had a brief fling with someone he works with. I told him I wanted to end the relationship and he begged me not to. We carried o and went to counselling and things were fine for a while.

Our third child was born in April and things were good for a few weeks but then I started to feel that things were going wrong again and that there may be someone else. On Tuesday night I found a message in his phone. From him to a woman he works with saying that he loved her. It turned out that he had slept with her twice the previous week.

On Thursday night we had a long talk. I can see now that in many ways I have pushed him away for fear of getting hurt again and that he has gone to someone else for that love and affection.

That night we made love - he instigated it and then immediately afterwards he said he wanted a separation. I texted the OW and begged her to please leave him to think about the situation and about our family. Pathetic I know, but I was desperate.

He asked for some thinking time and he stayed away all last night to think about things. This morning her came back and said that if we were to have any sort of future we needed to be honest with each other. He was acting in a very kind and conciliatory way - saying to our baby "daddy's been very silly" and he took us out to lunch and we had a fun day with the kids. The only blot was that he was getting texts from this woman all day and each time he got one he became more distant.

When the kids went to bed we talked, I again apologised for the mistakes that I have made in our marriage but he refused to listen, said that he'd been miserable for years and that he wanted to separate.

He said that he doesn't want to move out as the house is half his and he can't afford to pay half the mortgage and rent somewhere else. But he does want to separate. I know in my heart that we can turn things around and be happy but he doesn't want to listen.

I can't bear the thought of losing him and the thought of sharing custody of the children and breaking their hearts is too much to contemplate.

I don't know whether to force him to leave so that he will (hopefully) miss me and the kids (though obviously this would also give him more time to spend with the OW) or to try and keep hammering home the fact that we could be happy if only he would live me another chance.

He won't even let me cuddle him. I can't eat or sleep and I can't talk to m y friends about it because they all think I should have left him the first time he strayed.

I just want the opportunity too show him how much I love him but he won't let me.

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OneMoreChap · 18/09/2012 16:46

Nah, I'd never really hard Hmm at you AF - too scared of you shooting yourself Grin.

It's the term, I think rather than this slimebucket, who is performing like this in the house with his children having to have them elsewhere. He really seems not to have any redeeming feature. Obviously OW doesn't see him as much of a catch either/

Fairyjen · 18/09/2012 16:53

Perhaps you should suggest sitting down and talking with dd tonight rather than watching dr who. Have you told school what's going on? Chin up babe x

AnyFucker · 18/09/2012 17:23

Yes, I really like the idea that OW is waking up to the twat that he is too

ahhh, wouldn't that be sublime poetic justice ?

MadAboutHotChoc · 18/09/2012 17:30

He sounds even worse Sad

I would try and detach from him - don't engage with him at all unless its to do with arrangements for DC, no eye contact, nothing. All this drama must be really stressful for you and the DC Sad There is a chance he is feeding off the drama of the whole thing - the tantrums, tears etc.

AnyFucker · 18/09/2012 17:31

and please ensure he watches Dr who on his own

take the kids out somewhere

AnyFucker · 18/09/2012 17:32

and please ensure he watches Dr who on his own

take the kids out somewhere, anywhere

bringbacksideburns · 18/09/2012 18:13

I'd text the other woman and tell her to come and get him. What a loser.

And how dare he speak to your mother like that, the snidey little shitbag.

Doha · 18/09/2012 20:28

I'D text the OW and tell her she is welcome to him that you don't want him. That you have had enough of him beggging for a second chance, declaring undying love etc....you want him gone
The see how she reacts when he tries to deny it. Grin

But then l am an evil vendictive cow.................

swallowedAfly · 19/09/2012 07:08

he's desperate to be in control again - even if it is only to have the power to make you cry/react/be hurt (the it made me sick to sleep with you is exactly that isn't it? a desperate attempt to effect you). he tries the spiteful, vindictive tack and it doesn't get the desired effect so he tries the be nice, let's watch doctor who tack Hmm

just keep making it clear he has no control over you anymore - you don't want his kindness, you see his nastiness for what it is and are not biting, you just want him gone. i think people like this give up when they realise they really do not have any power over you anymore and the game is up. their egos can't take being 'nothing'. he'll keep ramping it up looking for that reaction - don't feed him! starve him out.

he is saying atrocious stuff and being such an arsehole! he is showing he has zero respect for you or the children and i wonder if he really recognises that you are people - you know? not just little pawns in his universe.

Fairyjen · 19/09/2012 08:16

Morning McB. How are you getting on re legal advice? Do you know if twunt has seen a solicitor?

Bluegingham · 19/09/2012 10:48

Morning! How you doing?

alienreflux · 19/09/2012 14:33

Hey McB how goes it today?

Bluegingham · 19/09/2012 19:23

Hope you're ok. Please update us! X x.

Fairyjen · 20/09/2012 10:26

Good luck today with legal advice! Please update us, all us yummy mummies are behind you! Smile

Fairyjen · 21/09/2012 10:09

Has this thread moved?

Bluegingham · 21/09/2012 12:35

Please come back! Even if you'd had a reconciliation! Just want to know you're ok x x x

McBuckers · 22/09/2012 18:50

No reconciliation. He still a twunt. He was supposed to come back this morning at 8am to take the kids swimming. Of course for the second week running shagging the girlfriend proved more important than his children.

My Gos he's such a loser.

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Fairyjen · 22/09/2012 18:57

Oh op! Your poor kids and you. Good to hear from you tho! Any joy with legal advice?

Bluegingham · 22/09/2012 19:17

Phew you're alive! At lest he's being a consistent arsehole. That's marginally less of a head fuck isn't it?! Grin

So did he just not show or did he contact you/them?

McBuckers · 22/09/2012 19:34

Last week we didn't know where he was. DD1 left a tearful message on his answer phone asking where he was. This week he contacted us about 3 hours after he should have gown up saying he was sorry for being late.

He's now taken the eldest 2 out swim miming and to dinner. Bedtime for the youngest was half an hour ago and he's still not back. Obviously petty point scoring is more important to him than his children's well being.....

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CremeEggThief · 22/09/2012 19:43

:9 and Angry on your behalf, McB. Your poor little DD...

CremeEggThief · 22/09/2012 19:44

Sorry, should be :(.

Bluegingham · 23/09/2012 19:57

How you doing now? Are you seeing solicitors this week? and is he at the OW's permanently?

bogeyface · 23/09/2012 20:01

Text him "As you have not bought the kids back in time for bed, I assume that they are staying with you at your new home tonight. Please have them back in time for school in the morning."

I guarantee that they will be back within half an hour!

What a cock.

Fairyjen · 23/09/2012 22:02

I think it's time to man up! This is really not fair on the kids and it's down to you to protect them from this kind of bullshit. It's emotional abuse, your kids cannot expect to see him and have him let them down. I think you need to put your foot down. They need clear routines and a clear understanding of what's going on (your oldest I know your others are too young). Sit down with dd and twunt. Explain about different types of family etc. tell her he is moving out and set a clear map of what tomes he will see her, call her and what activities they will do together etc. if he breaks this agreement then cut contact between him and the children. It's the only way. He needs to earn his time with them, not waste it.

Just my opinion tho Smile