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Bored of myself being such a knob, please talk some sense to me

72 replies

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 11:52

Right, as is traditional, I've name changed, i usually post on more frivolous parts of MN but I need some help to understand what's happened to me, why it's happened and how to stop myself being quite such a knob in the future.
( I fully accept that I've been an idiot, I really do ).

Several years out of a marriage to a man who saw me solely as his housekeeper and nanny, no affection from him, no respect, sex 4 times a year ( that was in a good year, no sexual conatct at all when pregnant, breast feeding and none for the last 3 years of the marriage, with no explanation from him as to why he didn't want me ).

Anyway, ex- boyfriend contacts me, he has 'loved me for the last 20+ years' ( I know this to be true - years prior to renewed contact with me, he'd told this to all his friends, mother etc ). He lives a couple of hours travel from me. God help me but I love the wanker, we laugh, we have everything in common, we 'fit' together, when we are together it's the real partnership I have always longed for. We have been having a relationship for the past few years, well I say having a relationship, he has finished with me at least 4 times now. He has some kind of crisis ( he is very much an anxious, OCD-y, neurotic, introspective type ) and stops having any contact with me, just kills it stone dead. The first time he did it I felt like I was dying, I could honestly feel my heart aching within my chest but then a couple of weeks/months later he pops up again, full of remorse ( I absolutely do NOT contact him ) and swearing his love. Then it repeats months later. His explanation is that he finds the separations ( when i travel back home )from me intolerable and deals with that by finishing with me so he no longer has to deal with the loneliness when I go.

The last time was last month, he'd got in touch, ' I love and miss you' , all the usual outpourings of affection, I spent the weekend with him and then on the Sunday, he told me that the relationship had ' changed ' and he now saw me as just the ' closest friend' ( despite us having frankly excellent sex, initiated by him ). He then went back to his mother's and lay in his bed, moping all week ( his mum told me this, she thinks I'm ' very good for him' and we're ' made for each other' ). I have heard nothing from him since. My sole contact being a simple request for him to send all my possessions that remain in his flat - a large amount of clothes, make up, contact lenses etc to my house ( to which he didn't reply ).

I want to stop loving him, I'm a reasonably intelligent woman, I'm tired of being so stupid with regard to him. I'm weary of it, I don't like dramatic relationships.

Thank you for reading my self indulgent twaddle, please tell me why you think he does it and how to sort myself out.

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 14:46

I was thinking it might be photos of your long-dead childhood pet

or your great aunt Irene's ashes

or saucy pics/film

there's a lesson to be learned here, yes ? Grin

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 14:51

Oh he's got saucy pictures and film ( well, memory stick ) too but I'm not that arsed about them. In fact I was hoping he'd have a few tearful wanks whilst contemplating losing the best thing in his miserable existence.

I have learned my lesson though.

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 14:56
Grin

the family's ashes are where they should be then ? < phew >

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 15:01

Oh aye, AF, I may be a trollop but I have some standards. ( low ones )

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 15:07

they are getting higher as we speak Grin

get him out of your life, massive boost to the ole standards (not to mention self-esteem)

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 15:16

Thank you, AnyFucker, you are a source of great wisdom as ever.

He can go wank himself to death in his mire of self pity.

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cakehappy · 21/08/2012 16:05

School Uniform???That totally made my day :) If I were you, I'd totally take back the control, he seems (sorry) to be playing you quite a bit, and although he may be "fucked up", he still isnt treating you right, and there is no excuse at all for that. You gotta wonder why hes treating someone he loves and has loved for so long like that... is it because he can...??? If you really wanted to still make a go, I'd be at the point where I'd give him an ultimatium, commit for good or its over forever(he obviously doesnt believe it is or you would have got your possessions back,quite controlling of him IMO) but you have to make sure he understands how serious you are. However to be honest, I'd be majorly POff and walk out of there!!! girl, keep some of that dignity of yours! There is more plenty fish in the sea...

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 18:05

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cakehappy · 21/08/2012 20:13

Tough times...and you deserve so much more after a such a nightmare marriage.(what a totally awful sounding man, thank god you got away)! I really feel for you:( I don't think your a bozo, just someone wanting a relationship to work out with someone they love. Too bad the heart doesn't have a brain eh? I know its crazy hard but maybe you need to walk away head held high, and ignore thoughts of him till they stop happening, ( which they will!!! ) I think if you're serious about getting out of this dead end relationship you need to lay down some ground rules and figure out how you're gonna resist getting back together again with him when he comes knocking. Allow yourself to feel sad in the beginning, but it's gonna get easier and easier and easier to be happier and happier. The only way to do it IMO is detatch and ignore all things related to him, calls, texts, thoughts, memories...push them out of your head completely no matter how long it takes. Its hard but slowly effective, and soon enough you'll be in a different place and maybe in a new and happy relationship with a hottie! Remember that you deserve to be in a balanced and 2 way happy relationship!!

MushroomSoup · 21/08/2012 20:18
TheProvincialLady · 21/08/2012 20:37

Never mind the tool, you need to focus on why you enjoy having sex wearing grey polyester.

TheProvincialLady · 21/08/2012 20:39

Or was it a private school? All kilts and hats? Am v impressed that you still fit into it after 30 years.

LostMyIdentityAlongTheWay · 21/08/2012 20:43

Your SCHOOL UNIFORM.

Sweet Jesus, but I do love mumsnet.

(think I just pissed myself laughing)

Thanks OP. In the midst of your crisis, you have provided at least one jaded old hag with a bloody good giggle.

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 20:48

I consider myself to have performed a public service today - takes a bow

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BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 20:49

Convent Grammar school, cough

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 20:50

those Convent Girls were always the really dirty ones, even back in my day Smile

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 20:58

And thank you, Cakehappy, I'm very much aware that my problems are extraordinarily minor compared with some of the posters on here. My marriage was deeply unhappy but nothing like some people deal with. I doubt that, this time, my most recent tosspot will contact me again, especially as he now sees me as a 'friend'.

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kittybiscuits · 21/08/2012 20:58

His behaviour is classic commitment phobic behaviour OP. Have a google and you will read a wealth of info that will ring a lot of bells for you. Your posts are wonderful and hilarious, in spite of your pain. You deserve so much more than this. Are you going to post a picture? Wink

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 20:59

It's an excellent chat up line, AF, men always assume you are filthy.....

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BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 21:02

Kittybiscuits, I'm googling phobic behaviour ( and thanking Christ there are no photos to post )

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 21:06

a certain type of man, BB

let's be clear on that Grin

BishopBrennan · 21/08/2012 21:11

You may be right once again, AF - I'm taking a long hard look at myself

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AnyFucker · 21/08/2012 21:24

no, take a long hard look at those men (and yes, maybe a little mosey at why you choose ones like that)

you see, we joke about Convent Girls, and it's a bit of fun

it's not a bit of fun to a certain type of man it's deadly serious

Guiltypleasures001 · 21/08/2012 21:28

Oh fuck me you still fit in to your school uniform, assumes the I'm not worthy kneeling and worshiping pose..

Now the reason he keeps coming and going and going and coming, links to blazing saddles there..

He does have ishoos, and this is a story I have read recently in one of my counselling books. somwhere in his past he has unresolved grief surrounding either a real life loss or an emotional one.

He could also have attachment ishoos with his mum, its a love hate relationship, surrounding his guilt of leaving her and at the same time feelings of love and hate, which he projects on to you. You are his mother substitute, except he can have sex with you, but in the end because he may see you as his mother, it is wrong deep down to desire you.

He needs counselling and taking right back to childhood, you cant help him and he wont change, because I dont think he will be aware of whats going on, most of this is happening on an unconscious level for him, and is very complicated.

I suggest that for your own sanity you go see your own counsellor and talk through how this makes you feel, and how you can move forward.

Pollykitten · 21/08/2012 21:32

The word 'narcissist' has popped into my head - him not you OP. I second the 'break up with him' brigade. You sound like someone who knows who they are in an empty room, whilst he does not. Moping at his mother's house - seriously? Have you ever seen the film Sideways? When the friend has to slap the other friend every time he gets maudlin about the ex. I'm doing that for you now, I am!