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How to heal an 8 year rift with my twin sister

59 replies

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 09:20

Firstly, I'll set the scene. We're identical twin sisters, who are old enough to know better! We were extremely close all through school, only making separate friends when I went to college and she went onto a YTS scheme.
We ended up working across the road from each other and would spend most lunchtimes together, as well as speaking 2-3 times a day on the phone Shock

I was her birthing partner in 1995 Smile.

I moved away from the area in 1998, met my OH, married and had children.

I visit my folks maybe twice a year and it was during one of these visits that our relationship floundered.
My daughter, who was 2 ish at the time, was playing with her daughter who is 2 weeks older. As kids of that age do, my daughter wanted whatever they were playing with to herself ... just to say, she was an only child at this point, her cousin had a sister .... when my sister chirruped up "I teach my children to share" and snatched what my girl had to give to hers. Anyway, we decided to make a swift exit at this point to check into our hotel. I didn't see my sister again during that visit.

2 weeks later, it was my eldest niece's birthday and knowing my sister was still festering, I sent money to my eldest sister to give to my niece, knowing my twin wouldn't bank a cheque if I sent it to her.

I received this money back with a note, telling me never to contact her family ever again and as far as she was concerned, I am no longer her sister!!

This actually caused a rift between myself and my parents' as they sided with her and we didn't have any contact for over a year. The only reason they made a move was because my elder sister told them I was pregnant again and they didn't want to miss out on grandchild.

During this time, my mother and father have had their Ruby Wedding, my Mum turned 60, my Dad turned 70. These have variously resulted in a family portrait of all the grand children, family meals and get together's, al excluding me and my family.

My parents' and sister have asked that we make up, folks not getting any younger etc. and how awful it would be if the rift hadn't been mended before one of them passed on .....
I have told them all of the letter that my sister sent, as she obviously didn't, but haven't shown them, I'm not even sure if I still have it. My father said it put it into a different perspective. Whether they have badgered my sister into making up, I don't know.

So, maybe the time has come to bury the hatchet ... but not in my sister's head Hmm... but how?
Or should I? She has always been self righteous and in her eyes superior to me and if I'm honest, I don't miss that part of our relationship.

I don't really expect to get an answer here but I can't speak to my family as they're all too close and I know whatever is said will get back to her.
My Mother still tells me what is going on in her life, even though I never ask after her. We both have children that neither has met and I know my kids would like to know their cousins.

Right, that was a proper ramble Wink.
So, any bright ideas?

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HighJumpingHissy · 05/08/2012 11:56

"She is told to stay away if I am visiting home."

WHO tells her this? Shock

Sounds like your parents are complicit in this rift, have allowed it, failed to back you or hear your side, they have blamed you for this and actually from your account you are as clueless as the rest of us as to what the real cause of this rift is.

Any decent parent would not allow this rift, would tell you both to sort it out.

IF YOU REALLY, REALLY WANT TO MAKE UP, I think you need to meet your sister one-to-one and see what is what. My guess is that she won't have changed, and her acquired position as Alpha Twin will be one she won't want to give up.

Through her deeds, you have been cast out of the nest. no longer are you the preferred child and she is there, in the thick of it.

Unforgivable that the family have parties without one child and her family there.

ppeatfruit · 05/08/2012 12:03

It does sound now that's it's not as one sided as I originally thought. The favouritism shown by yr.M to you has festered in yr twin's mind for all this time.

IIWY i would have gone to the reunions when asked and carried on as if it had never happened (the childishness of yr sister should be ignored) It's not worth going down to her level.As some people say 'It's life' and you can make it sad or not as you wish.

seaofyou · 05/08/2012 12:16
MrsBovary · 05/08/2012 12:16

How sad. And especially your family getting involved in a less than positive manner.

I would also advise arranging to meet your twin alone in an attempt to resolve things.

boohoohooshouldhavewongold · 05/08/2012 12:26

I think if you really want to sort it then your going to have to move on from the past because even though your upset by the letter I should imagine that she is upset that you have stayed away despite being asked to family events, contact your sister and see if she would meet you on her own.

MrsJREwing · 05/08/2012 12:35

If I booked a family photo and one of my children didn't go, there would be no photo shoot. Then I love my dc the same and don't favour various children.

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 13:06

seaofyou

Excluding - apart from; except
Excluded - Deny someone access to a place, group.

Sorry that has Confused you.

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bringbacksideburns · 05/08/2012 13:10

How very sad. Eight long years you will never get back over a silly reason.

In your shoes i would say you are willing to try again - but she makes the first move, not you, because of that letter.

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 13:20

Well yes, bringbacksideburns but I don't think that will happen.

She always has been stubborn, even as a child. I was always the more biddable one :).

And to somebody ^^ up there, don't forget I hadn't spoken to my Mum or Dad for a year or so, on being reconciled, I don't think it was appropriate to discuss the letter with them.
I have pretty much avoided having any conversation about her at all. I don't want to know about her and her kids and I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to know about me and mine either. I'm guessing my Mum tells her about me as she tells me about her.

I suppose that says it all really Sad.

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seaofyou · 05/08/2012 13:29

it does put a total different light on what you have have said!!!
I'm not confused by the defenition...I'm confused your story has changed!

You need to ignore your sis childish behaviour and allow your DC to have relationhip with there GP.

Inconceivable · 05/08/2012 13:40

If you miss her and you want to make up with her, then why not make the first move? Forget about the note. Swallow your pride, be brave, knock on her door and say you would like to be in touch again. Or, just show up at the next family gathering. I wouldn't try and discuss the past initially. See how you get on in the here and now. It might be a it awkward at the start but that will get better with time. If you become closer again I'm sure you will be able to discuss what happened when the time is right.

If you don't get on if\when you are in contact again, then at least you tried and you probably wouldn't be in a worse situation then you are now.

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 13:40

seaofyou - My children do have a relationship with their grand parent's, we see them at least once a year and they speak to her on the phone every now and then Smile

Apart from the 1 ish year hiatus when my eldest was 2 - 3, they have always seen them. Obviously, my eldest isn't aware that she didn't see her then.

Funnily enough, both my children are not keen on their grand mother and ask that they are not left on their own with her Hmm.

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chipsandmayonnaise · 05/08/2012 13:44

Okay- serious question as I want to understand you. Do you actually want to heal the rift? The whole situation sounds toxic. You may be better off out?

I ask, only b/c my DMother was more or less emotionally blackmailed into healing a rift with her family, when in reality all they do is undermine her and her family and are spiteful.

It sounds like you want to heal the rift to keep the peace? Is it worth it?

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 13:57

chipsandmayo
Honestly? I don't know.

My main concern is that my folks are ageing and if they do pass on, I will not be able to pay my respects to them at a funeral as I don't think I could go if my sister was there, as she will be.
To think about seeing her makes me feel physically sick.

I wouldn't be lying if I said I very rarely think of her. When she had a couple of miscarriages, I felt nothing, not upset, just nothing. When my mother talks of her, I have no burning desire to see her and I never ask after her because I'm genuinely not interested in her.
That in itself sounds really horrible but it isn't meant to Sad.

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chipsandmayonnaise · 05/08/2012 14:11

No, that does not sound horrible to me. It just sounds very sad, and I really genuinely feel for you.

I think that all too often 'healing the rift' means that the nicest and most reasonable person in the scenario apologises. And sometimes that is not fair.

Thanks
exoticfruits · 05/08/2012 14:13

It all sounds very toxic. As a mother I think I would bang my DCs heads together if they were so silly! I certainly wouldn't have any part or take sides- I would totally ignore.
I would just write the same letter to all parties, say that you are all adults, all the same family and that a line should be drawn and start again.

Mayisout · 05/08/2012 18:29

If you meet up with your sis on your own then there's no fall out affecting dcs or anyone else.

Perhaps you could just contact her yourself (don't even tell DM) and explain that you really don't want bad feeling because if anything happens to parents, for example one could be longterm ill in old age, you feel that you would want to visit them without risk of bad feeling with sis.

She sounds as if she was born with a blooming big chip on her shoulder, part nature and part nurture, and that won't change now but if she would just allow a truce it would be fairer on everyone else, including her DCs. .

And see what her response is. You might have to 'apologise' for your 'unreasonableness' but if you can eat humble pie maybe she will be prepared to put her gripes behind her enough that you can at least be included a bit more.

You can but try.

HansieMom · 05/08/2012 18:51

I did think you should show your parents this thread until you mentioned your DC are not keen on your mom and do not want to be left alone with her.

What are their reasons?

KaFayOLay · 05/08/2012 19:42

HansieMom - She is mean to them and seems to derive a certain amount of pleasure in making them cry Sad.
She used to do the same to my sisters and I when we were kids. I thought she'd mellow with age but obviously not.

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HansieMom · 05/08/2012 21:48

How mean of her! At least they do not have to be in her presence, you had no choice. Wonder how she is with other GC.

HighJumpingHissy · 06/08/2012 07:29

Wtaf?

Seriously, what would you, amd your dc, get from being in contact with either dsis or your cruel mother.

She seems to terrorise them if they're on their own with her, judging by their fear of being left alone with them!

You DO realise how fucked up that is, don't you?

HecateHarshPants · 06/08/2012 07:37

Not only do I not understand why you want to beg and plead with your sister to be in your life again, but I am utterly baffled as to why you haven't kicked out of it someone who enjoys hurting your children.

You don't HAVE to have people in your life who make you unhappy, just because they are related to you. Once you really accept that, it will liberate you!

KaFayOLay · 06/08/2012 07:45

Hecate and others who have said the same.

I see my folks at most twice a year and not always to I take my dc with me.
I really don't have much to do with them and am quite removed from the nuclear family.

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HecateHarshPants · 06/08/2012 07:49

Well, the nuclear family is your husband and your children Grin but even taking your children once to see someone after you know that they get pleasure from hurting them is unfair to them. You must see that?

ElephantsCanRemember · 06/08/2012 08:03

I think I am missing something here (disclaimer: I haven't had much sleep)

You said you moved away, met OH and only saw your DP twice a year. How often did you see your Dsis? Speak to them regularly? I don't quite understand why you made a swift exit after one remark from your Dsis unless she had form for making unkind comments. I also don't understand why you think your Dsis would bank a cheque that came to her (from you) via your older sis but not if you posted it directly.
So your parents did invite you to the family photos and celebrations but you decided you would not be comfortable going. Now you are saying that you want to heal the rift beofre either parent dies otherwise you won't be able to go their funerals? Well, you could still go. Either you want to go and nothing will stop you, or when the time comes you will stay away and say goodbye in your own personal way. I don't think it is fair to blame your Dsis for you not being able to go.

Having said that, there does seem to be form with your Dsis and parents to have a year or more of not speaking to other family members. So for that reason I would stay detatched. Especially because your mum criticizes your DC so much. Why would you want to reintroduce them to your lives if they are like this?

I hope this doesn't sound harsh,or at least I hope it makes sense. But I think there is a lot of history and resentment here (some of which you may not even be aware of), there must be, for it to have snowballed over one comment by your Dsis.

You don't HAVE to have people in your life who make you unhappy, just because they are related to you. Once you really accept that, it will liberate you!

I 100% agree with this from Hecate.