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Need some intelligent opinions - bullshit radar is going off

58 replies

paranoidIndeed · 02/08/2012 22:58

I'll keep it brief. Met a new guy a few weeks ago, I really like him but things are not seeming quite right IYSWIM? spidey senses are tingling. I'm known for being a bit paranoid but something is telling me to be careful here.

It's hard to pinpoint exactly what it is. But one example - he shows me pictures of his house - gorgeous 4 bed detached house - but in the picture it had no furniture in it. Now he did say he's selling it so fair enough, most stuff he'll be getting rid of but he's supposedly still living there?? However he tells me he stays at his mums house a lot to keep her company = his mum lives on a nearby council estate. Nothing wrong with this at all except he seems to be there all the time. And tonight he tells me his mum is away this weekend - seemed to be hinting that he has the house to himself - something flashed through my mind that it's HIS house?? I checked 192. He is listed as living in that postcode but a few years back.

He dropped me off home on Tuesday. He said he was heading in a certain direction home so I said "are you going to your mums?" and he stuttered and couldn't answer me properly. Seemed totally caught off guard.

Another thing - he's on a good wage - yet he only works 9-4pm and seems to have time off whenever he wants. For example we're going out tomorow and he said he'll pick me up at 1pm. I said "are you not at work?" and he said he had the day off?? He also has next monday off.

I am known for being paranoid. Tell me this is a paranoid state I'm in right now?

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piratecat · 02/08/2012 23:31

why not ask him outright, where's the furniture

paranoidIndeed · 02/08/2012 23:34

I did, he said he let his ex-wife take mostly everything - but she supposedly moved out two years ago. But then in another conversation - he told me he'd been the one to leave?!

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squeakytoy · 02/08/2012 23:38

Get him to take you to meet his mum..

It could be plausible I suppose.. he left, ex stayed in the house, house goes up for sale.. she has moved out.. he moved back until sale... possibly..

Where is the ex meant to be now?

Musomathsci · 02/08/2012 23:39

Weirder and weirder....

Isn't it a bit odd that things just keep happening on the day you happen to discuss them? The paperwork came through today, he just happens to conveniently have the day off etc?

It's not paranoia when they're out to get you.

paranoidIndeed · 02/08/2012 23:40

Ex is meant to be in a neighbouring village.

It could all be genuine - I have bumped into people he knows whilst with him and he'll always introduce me etc so I'm sure he's not still married.

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BrevilleTron · 03/08/2012 00:04

Hmmm this is sounding familiar
Does this guy have a girls name tattooed in inch high letters across his back and a wolf tattoo on arm?

paranoidIndeed · 03/08/2012 00:11

No Breville!? he doesn't have any tattoos

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BrevilleTron · 03/08/2012 00:18

Ok. Only reason I asked is that I got stung by s command who was waiting for a big payout from a sexual abuse court case. Some details were true but he added lots. It started just like your op.

BrevilleTron · 03/08/2012 00:19

Con man not command.
Sorry. Hope the guy isn't a conman.

paranoidIndeed · 03/08/2012 00:19

wow, you never really know who you're talking to do you :(
I'll see how tomorrow night goes.

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BrevilleTron · 03/08/2012 00:21

I'm sorry I didn't mean to upset you it's just the house details and the ex story are very familiar.
Just take care of yourself please.

paranoidIndeed · 03/08/2012 00:27

No I totally agree. People can say anything - whole lives have been made up before now and normal, intelligent people fall for it all the time. It's just so hard to believe that everything I thought I knew about this guy could be a lie you know?

I'll ask a few probing questions tomorrow night x

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CuriousMama · 03/08/2012 00:32

Good luck. I was with a liar once and it's awful, you feel like you're going bonkers! They are so manipulative.

I'd get him to take you to meet his mum if you think he's a keeper? If not then dump him as he does sound shifty to me.

ladyWordy · 03/08/2012 00:34

Please do take care. I think breville has a point. I am very tempted to come straight out and ask if he's done time. Not trying to scare you, but not saying it lightly either.

paranoidIndeed · 03/08/2012 00:36

he wouldn't tell me if he had though? is there any other way you can find out?

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LastMangoInParis · 03/08/2012 00:46

paranoid if these are your worries about this man then surely by this stage it's kind of irrelevant what the truth of his situation is? If these are the thoughts you're having about him, that doesn't say much about the chemistry between the two of you... Hmm

garlicnutter · 03/08/2012 00:58

Can you not look at his facebook from 2+ years back? If he's cleared it all, that would help reinforce your feelings that he's hiding the truth.

Were there any other residents listed at the same address on 192.com?

How often does he see DC? Sounds like they don't overnight with him, so how does that work?

garlicnutter · 03/08/2012 01:02

Sorry, I meant to say I understand that you're worried your ex has left you wondering whether you're on a bit of a hair trigger. I'd say no: any woman with a brain would be concerned about the things you've mentioned. You don't have to 'make it work' - this relationship is making you uneasy, so basically it is not currently good for you. I hope tomorrow night goes as well as you wish, and please promise yourself not make excuses for him! You deserve the best :)

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 03/08/2012 01:15

Niggles need to be carefully listened to.
And to paraphrase a well known saying "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean he's not a lying fuckwit."
Sorry.

ladyWordy · 03/08/2012 01:50

Ha, no he wouldn't say if he'd done time really would he! Grin though the response might be interesting. I suppose I meant, ask myself.

Sorry, I may be doing him a grave disservice. It's just that some of what you've mentioned here doesn't sound plausible, and some of it is inconsistent. Sometimes when that happens it's because the person is used to lying, rather a lot.

meditrina suggested independent verification, and if you are quite sure you want to keep seeing him, this is a good road to follow. Whilst I would not take another step with this one, that is just a stranger's opinion based on instincts - and you are the one in a position to establish facts.

futureunknown · 03/08/2012 02:06

Good luck with getting some answers tonight. It all does sound very fishy. At the very least it used to be his house and now it is sold and he lives with his mum. The job situation seems strange, unless he is on flexitime and can move his hours around.

More info required definitely.

TheSmallClanger · 03/08/2012 14:30

My bet is, he never owned the house, just has the photos to impress women. He lives with his mum.

I know you mention villages, but is this happening in the leafier part of Greater Manchester? The pattern sounds horribly familiar to a relative of someone I know.

MyinnergoddessisatLidl · 03/08/2012 14:48

Perhaps the ex-wife cleared out all the furniture and took every penny, like my DH's ex?

He might have gotten into debt paying her out, or has alimoney agreements and money is now a sensitive subject?

Perhaps she wanted all of the equity out of the house for a new life and he didn't want to remortgage a big old house for 1 so moved into his mothers until the money comes through and he can buy himself a flat or something smaller.

Some people do have these jobs (and I wish I bloody well did) that earn they can work flexitime, or pop out for afternoons. Our friends dh does because he's a director and does beggar all when he wants to.

CheeseandPickledOnion · 03/08/2012 14:58

What car does he drive? Does he have money to flash?

Is it reasonable that he makes as much as he says doing the job he says? Remember some people do have very flexible jobs.

CogitoErgOlympics · 03/08/2012 14:59

He wouldn't be the first man trying to impress someone with a non-existent posh job/house/whatever. If you think he's bullshitting, give him chance to come clean. If you think he's lying, ditch him.

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