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New relationship - ALWAYS wear a condom?

32 replies

NikitasSidekick · 01/08/2012 18:21

First time with a new guy - say if you'd known him about two months and you knew he'd had a vasectomy - married previously for 17 years - would you still insist on a condom?

Not a real situation for me yet - I'm just curious.

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BedHog · 01/08/2012 18:23

Yes - I don't want to sleep in the wet patch thankyou very much!

RubeCube · 01/08/2012 18:23

Yes. STIs. The most unlikely of men can be riddled.

LaBelleDamesansTurkey · 01/08/2012 18:24

Yes, until you both get a clear sti test.

NikitasSidekick · 01/08/2012 18:25

So when would you move from condoms to just relying on the vasectomy? what would change?

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NikitasSidekick · 01/08/2012 18:25

Crossed post.

Has anyone actually asked a man to get himself tested? I can't imagine doing that lol

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RubeCube · 01/08/2012 18:26

When there had been a clear STI test. No glove, no love etc!

RubeCube · 01/08/2012 18:27

I made my husband when we first met. I was just honest - I got tested regularly and confidently told him how it was!

SquishyCinnamonSwirls · 01/08/2012 18:29

Absolutely use a condom. Sex without once sti check on you both has come back clear and also a sa to check his count is zero.

HecateHarshPants · 01/08/2012 18:31

yes. Pregnancy is the least of your worries!

Gonorrhea
Chlamydia
Syphilis is apparently on the up too!
and HIV, astonishingly!

I think people are forgetting about STDs again.

HecateHarshPants · 01/08/2012 18:32

move on once you've both been tested!

There are some things it is not worth taking a chance over.

And, tbh, if you can't have a frank sexual health discussion with someone - you have to ask yourself if you should be sleeping with them! Grin

NikitasSidekick · 01/08/2012 18:33

ok so when would you bring this conversation up?

I've not slept with this guy at all yet - not even come close. However there is talk of us going further afield to watch a band in a month or so and staying over the night. Made me realise I'd not even thought about all this. My sexual experience is rather limited Blush

So would I just take condoms and tell him it has to be done until we're both checked or bring it up before the situation even arises?

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RubeCube · 01/08/2012 18:50

Take the condoms. If he says anything, then you just say until he's been tested, this is how it is. Will also be the measure of if he's a tosspot or not.

HecateHarshPants · 01/08/2012 18:50

tbh, it really is better to do it beforehand. Although that's going to be a bloody hard conversation to have!

I suppose an alternative would be to use condoms in the early days and then, if the relationship is getting serious, then have the STD talk.

but there are things you can catch even with a condom. Crabs. Herpes...

and then there's do you use a condom for oral sex?

MrsHoarder · 01/08/2012 19:00

If he's a decent type he will be happy to use one with no explanation if things just develop.

Then if he suggests not using one when you're both fully dressed you can suggest both going for sti tests.

NikitasSidekick · 01/08/2012 19:00

oh god, not even thought about oral.

It's so difficult, we're both quite shy and I can't imagine either of us wanting to initiate this conversation. Ridiculous I know!

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Xales · 01/08/2012 19:05

I think you should bring it up before you get into a situation where you have to get them out when you are both good to go.

Definitely until you have both had an STI test.

fuckityfuckfuckfuck · 01/08/2012 19:08

O hell yes. Pregnancy is far down the list of worries- the STIs are what you want to watch out for. i cannot tell you the number of men I've heard of who claim to be infertile or to have had the snip, when the reality is they just don't like condoms. No glove, no love Grin

RancerDoo · 01/08/2012 19:12

Yes.
If I had known him for a year, he hadn't had sex with anyone else in that period and he had a clean std screening I would maybe go without.
Take the condoms, insist on using them. Don't go without until you are sure the relationship is monogamous (or as sure as you can be).

NagooingForGold · 01/08/2012 19:34

Yes condom.

Like someone else said, it's a good test to find out I he's a tosspot.

Just have one on you and get it out when you are ready. IME he'll be so thrilled that sex is imminent he'll put it on without complaint.

AuntPepita · 01/08/2012 19:39

Condom.

Don't die of ignorance.

fuzzywuzzy · 01/08/2012 21:11

if he has any sense he'll feel the same, STD's aren't a one way thing, men can catch std's from women too

BonkeySaysTeamGBAreTheMollocks · 01/08/2012 21:13

Yes! Always a condom until you know you are both clean.

Take them just in case but if he is a decent bloke then he should have some anyway.

lurcherlover · 01/08/2012 21:19

I have had unprotected sex with three men - DH and two exes who were long-term boyfriends (I was on the pill). I made all three of them get full STI screens before the gloves came off, and I did too. Wouldn't dream of sleeping with a man who refused to do so, either.

bogeyface · 01/08/2012 21:27

After six months or so I would expect to be in a place where the conversation about the checks would be easy enough to have.

dondon33 · 01/08/2012 21:28

Another yes for the condoms.
It's fab you don't have to worry about pregnancy later on but for now the little rubber raincoat is a definite yes until STI's are checked and ruled out.

Sorry but even if I'd known a guy for a long time and knew he hadn't had a relationship with anyone for a while and he showed me results from a previous test, I still wouldn't take for granted that he'd never had a fling/1 night stand.
If he's visiting my lady garden then it's condom's until a new test is done, If he doesn't like it then access is denied, simple :)