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why don't I leave him alone if he is abusive? its like self harm..

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DippyDoohdah · 31/07/2012 21:44

I have posted about my ex h before, under name of blinkey blonk. It has been a hard 6 yr relationship, with two lovely ds to show for it, and an annihilation of my own sense of self.I have given a lot to this man, supported him around immigration issues and begrudgingly put up with his substance use and excuses for not working properly or legitimately. Of course he has had his good sides and qualities but also has some very worrying attitudes as well as victim mentality and either loves or hates me.out relationship has been so on and of for last two years, with him threatening divorce ten minutes before my waters broke with second ds, and leaving, albeit for a few days when he was just 2 Weeks old..then 4 months old, so on and on.a couple of months ago I filed for divorce.he has messed around with contact with the boys and makes it all on his terms, given me hardly any money to support in last few months...but still wants us back as a family.as he is on benefits, he gets legal aid and has a jugular focused solicitor writing me essays about ex having boys at his for whole weekends...really, in the cannabis bedsits he lives in.he has again painted self as victim and says if I try and involve any other external services, especially social services, he will claim I am unfit to have boys..have been suffering with depression.there is a lot more I could say about him but said too much in previous thread and panicked and had it deleted.but knowing all I do,I am mainly the one who initiates contact and basically wants him tochange, understand..reform I guess.and each time I let him in I lose a bit more of my ability to cope as single mum.why do I keep doing this, any ideas?

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DippyDoohdah · 05/08/2012 07:35

Thanks girls.just adjusting my head again to neutral setting as have to do handover of boys for contact this morning. Tbh its not him I miss, its another supportive adult being around at the weekend...parents have elderly grandpa all weekend and most of my friends are still in marriages so weekend are their family time. Am starting to get better at sorting things for weekend, it just is such a slit with two pre schoolers and a demanding job with difficult clients in the week (self pitying rant over!).at least I only have to work with clients and not be married to one now! Am also wondering if I would ever really want to share my lovely double bed again anyway!

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DippyDoohdah · 05/08/2012 07:36

Such a slog not slit!

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LalaDipsey · 06/08/2012 19:24

How are you today, Dippy?

lowercase · 06/08/2012 19:34

i was just going to add, you feel like this because you are still in the cycle...he makes you feel bad, then gives you the medicine...
this time you have had the badness but not the remedy...
when you get the feelings of going back / missing him / feeling lost, could you recognise it and tell yourself 'this is part of the cycle', over time, stay away long enough and the cycle will begin to transform into wellness and you really will feel ok.
it takes time.
if you go back of course, the cycle gets longer.
you have done well to make the break.

DippyDoohdah · 06/08/2012 20:07

La la..had a crap day! Lowercase,I know you are right and the last 24 hours are testament to that.I let ex come to a child birthday party yesterday afternoon then put boys to bed.it was nice to just be relaxed and have their Dad there.he did actually get genuinely tearful over his harsh ness with DC 1 in past and said he is going to start earning some money to help out.I returned a missed call from him this evening, after I had had 2 hours of constant tantrums and real button pushing behaviour from DC.I was going to speak to ex about DC behaviour but I just got a monologue about all his bills and how he needs to work to sort his situation...is it awful and crap of me that I felt so deflated..I just want someone to be there for me! Am handling being back at work, but it is hard when often clients sit there crying and turning up worth problem after problem I need some respite! But I know you are right about the cycle...its classic..but I also know with one fail swoop I put myself back in the cycle.wish I had more single parents around me Sad

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Tonightheywin · 06/08/2012 20:09

Hello Dippy you are far from being on your own, even if must feel like it in RL.

Going over things over and over is part of the process I guess, especially when you can't avoid contact, so go easy on yourself. (there will always be someone on MN who thinks yeps, me too, and be glad - in a sad way- to read you, and looking forward to easier days for you.)

Louise May Alcott is good...and so is the SilverPussyCat!

DippyDoohdah · 06/08/2012 21:22

Thanks tonight...you lost me with the names though?

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Tonightheywin · 06/08/2012 21:52

The quote you gave from Louise May Alcott; "I am not afraid of storms,..."
And the very wise advice from SilverPussyCat about the rollercoasters, not trying to address them, as you may feel different/better tomorrow. Simple but so true. One I'll definitely keep in mind for myself.
You are doing so well, all the right things, you are so strong. Take care.

DippyDoohdah · 06/08/2012 22:19

Oops yes I forgot I posted that! It's from a lovely little book called "every cloud has a silver lining". Rollercoasters, yes!
Thank you very much for the encouragement and support Flowers

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DippyDoohdah · 06/08/2012 22:21

am tired!....Thanks x

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lowercase · 06/08/2012 23:20

the shoulder you are looking for will not be his...he is too self centred!

i had to stop expecting anything, and you do too...the sooner you get your head around it (that its ALL up to you!) the easier it will be.
you have been doing it all anyway by the sound of it, in extreme circumstances too.

the further you distance yourself, the healthier you become.
try and avoid contact with him, he is not what you need, and not what you want, not really.
new people can then find their way into your life to bring something beneficial to you.

you will be happy again, but not while he has an influence.

you know all this anyway dont you? xxx

DippyDoohdah · 07/08/2012 06:18

Lower case, what a lovely message, thanks.yrs I think I do know all of this.but I let myself feel the guilt of my boys not having their parents together,a their Dad wants to come back.but I do not miss him sleeping in my bed, kissing me, talking to me, complaining our ranting.I let him back in a but when it's the weekends, occasionally, and really that's unfair on everyone as it's out of desperation and loneliness for adult company and parenting support.I do need to take more control all round.when I see him, the reasonable side of him gets in my head.thanks x,x

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DippyDoohdah · 07/08/2012 17:10

What do you all think of me asking solicitor not to apply for decree abolute and just pressing the pause button at decree nisi for maybe 6 months/1 year to see if he pulls it together? I know I sound pathetic trying to run my life by committee, but I am so frustrated with self having A) invested this much emotional energy in it STILL B) Being fairly competent at help clients challenge selves and move forwards, but being so diabolically crap at it myself Blush

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DippyDoohdah · 07/08/2012 17:11

I have a deep rooted fear that I am mental, this is all my fault and if I completely walk away from him it will haunt me and f@£k up the boys Sad

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DippyDoohdah · 07/08/2012 17:42

And when I have a client on phone who has "only been beaten by her husband three times" that I am trying to say that matters no more or less than daily beatings, after I start to wonder whether I really suffered abuse at all.maybe I was part of it? Obviously the client will be working with someone else now as things she says trigger thoughts about my situation

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LalaDipsey · 07/08/2012 17:56

Dippy - it is your marriage and you can press pause whenever you want.
However - you have asked for advice so here it is:-
He isn't going to change. Sorry, but he's not. His values deep down are so very different to yours and will not change. He may kick the weed and be nice for a day or two but will not be able to sustain it.
Nothing you have done at all justifies his behaviour. He has behaved appallingly, abusively and without respect and love for you.
By not pressing forward with the absolute you are keeping him in your life and giving him carte Blanche to keep fucking with your head.
However - I say again - it is your life and your marriage and your decision. We will support you whatever you decide and if you decide to give him a chance to change will support you through that and pick up the pieces xxx

DippyDoohdah · 13/08/2012 16:18

I have let him creep back in a bit.do tonight he is coming round "to talk". I don't really know what to say,I am ready to stand up for self in anything he says that sounds manipulative or unreasonable.I want to tell him that swinging by to play Dad of the year does not make me suddenly want to share my life our bed with him as I do not trust him because of the past, that I think he manipulates people, that I do want him around but as the other parent and not romantically, that he could make this easier on me and healthy for the boys.am I being ridiculous?

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TheSilverPussycat · 13/08/2012 19:22

Be very very careful dippy - I am not sure him coming round is a v good idea, and if you tell his fortune as you have outlined, expect it coming right back at you. Especially I wouldn't say he was manipulative.

DippyDoohdah · 13/08/2012 21:21

Silver,I know, to be honest I did not have the energy so he just played with the boys.but I have to do something don't i.e.. limbo land forever otherwise....Confused

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TheSilverPussycat · 13/08/2012 22:20

Let your solicitor do the talking, instructed by you.

henrysmama2012 · 13/08/2012 22:47

You do sound like an addict yourself and he is a really destructive habit that you need to kick. You need to accept that he isn't going to change and he is just going to let you down and make you miserable in perpetuity if you keep welcoming / inviting him into your life.

DippyDoohdah · 13/08/2012 22:52

It's really hard to know if I have just been too down on him.when he comes round and is so great with the boys and is now being respectful of my need for him to give me physical space, although I can see him keep looking to me for something like approval I think.odd. Then I do think what if all of this was because I was a mad hormonal new mum, twice, and with his back ground of past trauma he just could not cope.does anyone that feeling when you are certain you have over thought some thing so that you really do not know where you stand anymore

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TheSilverPussycat · 13/08/2012 23:00

Yes, I had it repeatedly over my marriage, which lasted decades. I deluded myself with false hope.

DippyDoohdah · 13/08/2012 23:11

How did you get things clear in your head?

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TheSilverPussycat · 13/08/2012 23:15

I'll need a bit of time to ponder on that, but I will reply.

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