Mens toys?

[MsOnatopp]

Was chatting to a male friend over the weekend and we decided that women seem to be fine with dildos and vibrators etc but seem creeped out by a man who wants a toy for himself. So all I want to know is, are you creeped out by a man wanting to use a male toy (artificial vagina) and if you are, why?

What's wrong with sitting on your hand til it goes numb, and then..
"the stranger"..

Double standards here i think. Loads / most of women have vibrators and dildos and a lot of them are much bigger than any normal man. How do you think a young man would feel when they see 9/10 inch dildos advertised and then have a look downstairs. Also there are loads of comments and articles making comparisons to vibrators and rabbits being far better than any real man. By the way i don't have one of these fleshlight things but can't see why i would be classed as a looser if i got one.

From a feminist point of view, there is something disturbing about a disembodied fuckhole that resembles a woman's vagina or mouth. I am aware that many vibrators look like disembodied penises but it's a different association. I personally don't like penis vibrators, I have a couple of little, finger sized vibes and when I had a rabbit I binned it after hardly using it.

I cant really see anything wrong with it, makes me want to snigger just as much as any other sex toy does :o

Perhaps men are more likely to be turned on by the idea that a woman feels the need for diy, where as women just roll their eyes and think 'there he goes jerking off again'?

I'm sure it's safer than the hoover nozzle:o

Im not creeped out by it and i think its fine for men to have toys too.

Whatever rocks their boat.

I'd suggest Tenga egg - very effective and only a tenner

www.tenga-global.com/index.php

I suspect their other toys are just as good

Erik surely you should have donated it to a charity shop?

Erik - in all honesty, I was thinking, from a feminist point of view that men have every right to an artificial vagina as women do a vibrator. What business is it of anyone else how a man or woman pleasures themselves so long as there is no harm? Straight men will want to put their penis in a vagina, and straight women want a penis. I don't understand the problem.

What is the different association?

I'm starting to think it's an unfair double standard put on to us by society that see the users as creepy. Nobody seems to question what is creepy about it. My new conclusion: not a damn thing.

The association is different because culturally, historically, insidiously and every day society perpetuates the myth that women are fuckholes with bodies attached. Sorry to be crude but that is what we are living in. I'm not saying every man thinks that consciously, or even every man who uses a fleshlight, but the message is clear in our culture and being absorbed by all of us.
Men are not treated by women as penises with a man attached. Women aren't taught that mens penises should be available to us sexually whether we ask or not, women don't grow up seeing men as just a fuckpole. Sadly, men are taught that (through the messages imparted by so many avenues of our culture) and so to encourage the idea of wanking into a literal disembodied vagina is distasteful to me.

Tenga egg comes with celebrity recommendations!

I feel totally guilty from a double standard point of view too. I think if a guy had been bought it, or bought it for a laugh, e.g. on a stag do, and was openly jokey about it then I might be okay with it.

However if you sniggered and he got the arse because you'd mocked "Veronica vagina" and insisted on "finishing off" in her rather than you for example, then I'd be backing out of his door.

But I'm the same. I don't have a penis shaped dildo.

And really guys if you opened your girlfriends drawer and found this www.amazon.com/Doc-Johnson-Belladonnas-Bitch-Fist/dp/B003KRA54G/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hpc_2don't tell me you wouldn't be slightly freaked out too?

I think it's the dead looking body parts that freak me. Plus some of the plastivaggies come with hair that reminds me of my Tiny Tears doll.....

I disagree Erik. You can't solve a problem by being a hypocrite. If it's OK for women, then it is OK for men. If you (general you, not you Erik) think it is OK for a woman to use a vibrator you would be being a hypocrite to judge a man for using a fake vagina. Not saying you are a hypocrite because you suggested that you are not OK with vibrators but in general there is a double standard.

actually I retract that statement, the dead plastic sex organs seem run of the mill

When did Amazon ramp up it's product selection to accommodate this category?

Men often feel threatened by dildos/vibrators; women often feel creeped out by fleshlights/weird cans etc.

These reactions are very different and reflect the unequal concerns of men and women. It's not a double standard because it's logical and empirical. Double standards are things like, 'it's ok for a man to have sex on the first date, but not a woman.'

Who was it who said (paraphrasing): Men fear women because they may laugh at them; women fear men because they may kill them?

A disembodied vagina reminds women (however unconsciously) that men may objectify women to such an extent that they might not differentiate between a toy and a woman. Unless there is an equivalent of 'punternet' for women punters talking about the males they've bought, there won't be any reason to treat men's sex toys light-heartedly.

Excellent thread and excellent post lostinapapercup.

Isn't there also a different reason for purchasing a vibrator? Some women take a long time to climax, or cannot climax through regular sex.

So a vibrator or sex toy may be used to sustain sex for a long enough time for a woman to orgasm, longer than perhaps a man can last without climaxing? Or it might vibrate powerfully enough to bring about a climax that cannot be achieved by hand or penetrative sex?

As far as I am aware, a man seldom finds a real life vagina unable to exact his requirements?

What about for personal use though Innergoddess?

' a man seldom finds a real life vagina unable to exact his requirements?'

true enough, but then men dont always have access to one

No I completey agree, i imagine the market for a lot of rubber vaginas is to replicate as close as possible the feeling of flesh during onanism. However the majority of men can climax by hand, it's just a choice of whether they want a different experience.

But some women do buy sex toys to satisfy a need that they may not be able to achieve by hand or penetrative sex? Which is why a lot of couples find it ok to use them during sex - female partner takes longer to climax, male partner enjoys using vibrator to bring her to that climax etc?

It's actually quite common for men who have spent years without having PIV and therefore masturbating, to find that a RL vagina just isn't enough.

Tenga egg comments reminded me of this - toe curlingly, embarrassingly funny... If you have a crude SOH like me, clearly

I understand that men's motivations for using sex toys are often not symmetrical to womens, but I still dont have a problem with other people 'getting off' in whatever way they see fit

Good grief! Is there anything that Amazon doesn't sell?

Rinders, I was thinking that looking at the torsos

That really is creepy.

Just read the review for the Vampire Mouth in a Can.

I'm a bit perplexed as to why the 22 year old virgin had to wait until Friday.

Surely Friday is bumsex night?

I bet you can buy bum holes in a can

Also what lostinapapercup said.