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I've gone into complete panic mode. Verging on hibernation mode. Please help.

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JackieandJudy · 15/07/2012 15:39

Dh is ill, and has been since just after we met. Over the years we've had so much to deal with, and I think it would be fair to say that I have dealt with most of it reasonably well (I'm generally ok at coping when things are going wrong, it's usually afterwards I have a bit of a wobble).

The situation is slightly different this time in that, instead of finding ourselves in the middle of an emergency, he has a planned operation coming up for next Monday. And I'm so bloody scared. The odds we have been given are not good. I can't stop thinking about Monday and am constantly doing the "what if ...?" thing. The elder dc know it's serious stuff coming up and are scared themselves, hence are looking to us for guidance and reassurance. I've tried but today I'm all out of trying and have locked myself in the bedroom. Smallest dc knows Dad has to go to hospital but is oblivious of the wider implications.

I'm shaking constantly. I keep crying at random moments (yes, that was me in Sainsbury's who cried when I dropped the apples!), I can't do this for another week. But I have to. I don't want to talk to rl friends as I will cry and I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me anyway.

But I'm happy to listen if any of you lovely ladies have any ways to help me get through this week, and possibly after. Sad

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dondon33 · 10/09/2012 09:31

< hands firmly linked>
Just checking back before I embark on my 3 day journey to Eastern Europe.
Still here wishing, hoping and sending positive thoughts JandJ xxx

sadwidow28 · 10/09/2012 11:01

The circle is ever growing with the thoughtful people on this thread coming out of lurkdom to send good wishes. I am sure that JandJ will feel the thoughts and prayers wherever she is and know that she and her family are encompassed within our circle of love.

Homebird8 · 10/09/2012 11:27

Hello everyone. I'm with you Dondon, wishing and hoping and wondering whether if I add all my desire into everyone else's we can hold firm the knot at the end of the rope for JandJ. Actually I'm hoping the knot is well below her and she's climbing away busily with the day to day things life throws at her and fitting in hospital visits to a strengthening DH. JandJ, I'm not just hoping it, I'm praying it, I'm reaching for it, I'm desperate for it for you, DH and your wonderful family of DCs.

DS2 is very endearing in the same way icecream is can be sickly sweet and give you brain freeze but you keep going back for more. DS1 is 9 like yours Lazarus, he'll still give me a 'hand hug' but I'd better not do more than a quick stroke of the back of his head in greeting when I pick him up from choir which is full of big boys. At home I still get hugs and kisses but I'm not sure how long it will last despite conversations about who will have to sit on whose knee when they're bigger.

And on that note JandJ I'll sign off for tonight offering you a little sweetness to go with the brain freeze you're probably too familiar with at the moment. We're here for you and whenever you need us, whether you can post or not, we will offer you all the combined goodness, and support and advice that our combined centuries of experience can bring.

Donkeysdontridebicycles · 10/09/2012 11:36

De-lurking to say my thoughts are with you and your family.

ForeverAutumnNow · 10/09/2012 12:35

Joining the circle of light and hope, once more, to send my love.

CakeExpectations · 10/09/2012 13:10

Delurking to send love, strength and positive thoughts to JandJ.

We're all here for you and your lovely family.

izzyizin · 10/09/2012 20:51

Being a tree hugger lover, I'm inordinately fond of pinetums. There's one in Kent that has a long and broad grassed walk between huge cedar trees, which to my mind, look as if they have feet. I wouldn't want to linger in that place after dark as I suspect the trees use the walk as a dance floor, especially on windy nights when the moon rides high in the sky

Unless you're intending to show/race, horse owning and riding is not the virtually exclusive province of the well-heeled here as it is in the UK, lasa and, as witnessed by the phenomena of dude ranches, there's no formality to climbing into the saddle and heading off out into wide open, or forested, countryside.

I'm a firm believer that, along with many other things in life, the best way to learn to ride a horse is to just do it and I hope your ds gets the opportunity to indulge his passion soon. Volunteering his services at a local stable will hopefully give him a chance to get his feet in the stirrups, but he'll be in demand competition with the many young girls whose first loves are of the equine variety Grin

Btw, although my folks have chosen to have homes in pleasant locations, I don't believe my life can be described as 'glamorous'. It can be hard work trying to be in 2 places at once Smile and part of the reason for my exceptionally long, and long overdue, vacation this year is to make some decision as to whether it's time to commit to one place instead of dividing my loyalties.

Another digression, JandJ. Your thread has become something of a daily/nightly quilting bee with many gathering to sew love and good health into the lives of you and yours and, although some converse over their work, please rest assured their attention is not diverted from the work in hand.

Tonight I intend to offer a liabation to Dhanvantari, a Hindu god of health who has the 4 arms needed for us to keep the circle unbroken while continuing with our daily tasks. I hope he will look favourably on a whisky sour or two...

foolonthehill · 10/09/2012 21:53

Still here JandJ, thinking of you and all your suopporters

lazarusb · 10/09/2012 21:53

I take you are referring to Bedgebury Izzy? If so, that's about half an hour up the A21 from here...if you're ever in the area and fancy a glass of wine?
I think the horse riding is definitely something we will pursue, even if it means I have to forego a lego set now and again! But please...no talk of girls yet - he's only 9 and my baby!

J and J, this thread will take you ages to read now! I hope all is good with you. I feel like I am among friends here Smile So many warm words and good wishes. I hope your dh will take some comfort that women all around the world are still going to bed thinking of him Grin Take care.

TheLastRavenhope · 10/09/2012 22:36

Hope all is as well as it can be J&J Thanks

Xx

izzyizin · 10/09/2012 23:13

Pretty glitter! What a lovely gesture, Raven.

Blows sparkles of love and hope in JandJ's direction.

ladyWordy · 11/09/2012 00:00

Love the idea of a quilting bee sewing love and good health. And glitter :)

Sending a gentle ripple of peace your way, J and family.

sadwidow28 · 11/09/2012 09:02

Well I am certainly in the quilting crocheting bee as I have made several blankets for rescued kittens when I have done the overnight watch with Homebirds. I am a person who hates to waste time and I consider watching TV a tad wasteful of time so I also crochet as I watch. There are almost 100 kittens wrapped in my blankets in their new forever homes now. Working quietly with my crochet hook also gives me an opportunity to send up prayers to the heavens for JandJ's DH.

I am loving the sparkly circle Raven. It will glitter and shine for JandJ to lead her back to us when her DH is feeling better. I am hoping that he is well enough to appreciate her visits now and is able to continue on his road to a successful recovery.

Hoping that more lurkers will join our circle of love today.

jellibelli · 11/09/2012 11:05

I am back online now. I have moved home Sad and have only just been reconnected to the world.

I love the idea of the quilting circle with silent and chatty members all working together with a strong and common purpose.

Of course, more and continued sparkly, positive thoughts of light and love to you and all of your family JandJ

foolonthehill · 11/09/2012 12:15

I'll do the embroidery...never got the hang of crochet........sparkly thread and stars to wish on.....since all is glittering today.

JackieandJudy · 11/09/2012 14:13

Hi lovely and wonderful and amazing ladies. Please stop making me cry, you are literally incredible. I never knew there were such caring, eloquent, genuine, beautiful people out there (sorry for sounding like a left over relic from the flower power era).

Been feeling so guilty about not updating you all (and I know you don't expect it, and I know you're all busy with your own lives - but i also know that you care). Have not had a moment to myself - this is the first time I've been on PC since my last post.

So, Dh is still in ITU. They were hoping to have got him out of there several days ago, but his blood pressure is still too low and they can't get the anti-coagulant dosages right. However, he has all his drains, neck lines, arterial lines etc out, and from a cardiac point of view, is doing amazingly well. Dr Dismissive (I'm going to call him Dr Hero from now on because that's what he's become, and sorry for ever doubting him) is truly confounded. He says virtually every day that it was the craziest operation amongst many crazy operations he's done in his career, and he can't believe dh's recovery. He sort of gazes admiringly at dh and sighs lovingly whenever he sees him!

Dh hasn't been able to move around much to date (as lines etc only came out yesterday) so he's not had to put too much strain on anything, and the surgical team keep telling us it's early days. They want him to go to renal ITU now as they're worried about risk of infection, but there are no available beds there at the moment.

Whilst in ITU dh has been dialysed with a filtration machine, which is a different type of dialysis to that which he usually has. It hasn't worked very well, which means that since the op on 3rd, he hasn't had any decent, good quality dialysis. This means he has lots of extra fluid and toxins on board - and extra, and very unwanted, stress on his heart. Yesterday he was getting very upset about this, as was Dr Hero, but he was promised he would get proper dialysis before the day was out. Unfortunately he didn't and when Dr Hero was told this on this morning's ward round he was, according to dh, "as near to angry as I've seen him be". So this morning, it was Dr Hero's turn to contact the Clinical Director and kick up a fuss about the situation! I sense that the J & J name will be a byword in that hospital for pains in the behind before too long!

I can't tell you all how I feel. Actually, in all honesty, I don't know how I feel. I think I'm trying not to (feel). On Friday, I saw dh's renal consultant who must have been alarmed by my big smile because he was at pains to point out that it's early days and dh isn't out of the woods yet etc. He's a lovely man who has known us a long time now, so I sense he is speaking out of concern for us, and not to try and scaremonger. He told me after the op that they really didn't think dh would still be with us so maybe, knowing a lot more than I do, he can appreciate the enormity of the situation. I don't know. For now, I just give thanks to whoever is up there, and to all of you out there, that dh is here still. He hasn't wanted to see anyone yet but on Friday it's ds1's 19th birthday (I so can't believe that) so ds1 and dd are going to come with me to visit him (ds2 is very squeamish and doesn't want to come, and ds3 is too young). He's (dh) harbouring a hope that he will be out of hospital and well enough to come with me to take ds1 to uni on the weekend after next, but I don't think that will happen.

Which reminds me, thank you for all the advice about ds and going off to study. He's still saying he doesn't want to go, but I sense a lack of resolve now, unlike when he first mentioned it. I think now he does want to go but feels guilty about doing so. And, again, sorry for not responding to all of you by name, but I have read every post (well tried too through the blurry eyes) and how comforting to see you all, old and new. How lucky have I been to have had such incredible support from you all? Particularly as have had no family support - my own parents are elderly, (and dm abroad anyway for now), and we're not in touch with dh's parents. So, other than real life friends (who have also been brilliant, but it makes me very uncomfortable having to accept favours, it stresses me out almost - is that normal?!) you lot have been my only salvation. Dh had read the thread up to the point he went in to hospital so was aware of you all, and like me, in awe of the warmth and caring that has been shown, but when he is a bit stronger, I will read him the posts since then. They will move him to tears, as they have me.

I've been fantasising that Dr Hero will write up a big review (not sure that's the right word!) on dh and his most difficult operation, and take dh on a world wide lecture tour with him, thus making both his, and our, fortunes (although, truth be told, Dr Hero, is already pretty well known). In which case, you can all attend the lectures and dh can namecheck and thank you in person. And you, in turn, can get to see the stranger you have helped to survive

I sense I'm rambling now, and getting a bit carried away by my never-going-to-happen scenario, so better go and buy some food for my poor neglected dc! x

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izzyizin · 11/09/2012 15:13

You've gone and made me cry now, JandJ! What a pair we'd make right this minute, blubbling away when there are dc to be cared for and an amazing dh to hug and hold hands with now his assorted wiring and tubing has been dispensed with.

Our sparkly sewing circle may span the globe in a somewhat haphazard manner, but it is firmly focused on one small point in the universe which is a certain hospital bed and the truly amazing man who is currently occupying it.

Although some of my present tears are of relief at your most welcome update, my faith hasn't wavered and I have no doubt that the assorted saints and gods who are crowding around your dh, together with all of us who are by his bedside in spirit, are bringing about small miracles every minute of every hour of every day.

If Dr Hero should need any help in concentrating the Clinical Director's mind on the urgent need for the same degree of competence and professionalism demonstrated by his work in the operating theatre to aid your dh's continued recovery, please tell him that he has a veritable army of steel capped boots and a couple of particularly vengeful nasty Japanese and African gods to call on should he need to kick some arse(s).

Which reminds me... last night I erroneously offered a 'liabation' to Dhanvantari and tonight I've got to have another couple of whisky sours send him the appropriate 'libation' in order to ensure those extra pair of hands are keeping our glittery circle unbroken - what I go through to keep the toasts fluence flowing Grin

Btw, it's entirely normal for those who are more accustomed to giving than receiving to be somewhat uncomfortable about asking for/accepting favours, but true friends never feel burdened by helping their pals out in times of need - and you can always resort to the kindness of strangers Smile

Some Thanks for your dh to be kept by his bedside at home, and more to bring your and yours all that's required to sustain you until your dh is home again.

sadwidow28 · 11/09/2012 15:15

Hello JandJ, as you gather, I am always lurking in the background to see if you or anyone else has checked in on this thread.

Now you always knew the operation was a risk so to get your DH to this stage is incredible - and something to be thankful about. I know how it feels though, you have built a wall of steel around your heart and emotions so that if anything goes drastically wrong, you are ready. Well, JandJ, my advice is to bring down that wall and enjoy every breath that DH takes; every extra day that he is fighting; and keep planning for the 19th birthday. You and I are in the group of women who don't accept defeat until defeat slaps us on the head and knocks us out with concussion. Until then we use every martial art and flailing arms to ward off anything or anyone who dares to affect our family!

Got it?

My only real advice would be to reiterate that YOU have to do the jumping up and down. Don't leave it to Dr Hero to phone the Clinical Director to get proper renal dyalisis for DH. YOU demand it - on behalf of your DH who can't jump out of bed never mind jump up and down!

You have enough information now to demand the proper renal after-care. It was promised because it was necessary. So never mind there not being any beds for him in the renal unit. Let the hospital sort out how they manage the dyalisis for him - you don't have to solve the problem, your job is to identify it..... then threaten to phone your local MP and every local newspaper in your area, followed by the national newspapers.

And heaven help that hospital if the MNetters get involved with campaigns Grin

There is a reason that I am telling you to jump up and down (which I will tell you when your DH is on the road to recovery). I don't want you to trust anyone other than yourself. He is YOUR DH - and you have to fight for the very best care that he can have. You need to involve the CEO now..... get on that phone and make a nuisance of yourself. What is the worst that can happen? They call JandJ an over-anxious wife? So what if the proper dyalisis is done for DH and that saves his heart from further stress.

Believe me, if I could phone on your behalf I would be jumping up and down for you!

In the meantime, I am inviting more lurkers to join our glitter circle of love. Join hands with us please. We will NOT break our circle until we have DH back in the bosom of his family.

sadwidow28 · 11/09/2012 15:15

Sorry izzy - I crossed-posted with you!

sadwidow28 · 11/09/2012 15:26

Last thought JandJ, I used to refuse to leave ICU until a promised procedure was done for my DH. They could have attempted to have me removed by security..... but it never happened. Wink

springydaffs · 11/09/2012 15:29

oh what good news! yy it's not over yet but it's looking promising iyswim. Dr Hero, we heart you, you gorgeous, wonderful man!

that's it then, prayers for proper dialysis

look after yourself sweetie, as you wo't let other people look after you (norty). ah, maybe you can deal with that always been the helper not the helped at a later date when this crisis is over.

great to hear from you though Smile (no pressure!!)

izzyizin · 11/09/2012 15:48

I fully endorse sw's view, JandJ. Raise Cain because those who don't cause uproar make a fuss, don't get.

If your dh hasn't had the appropriate dialysis today, get hold of that Clinicial Director and don't let him go until it's been done and a bed is found for him in the renal ITU. Jeez, that's the same bod that you his hospital's cardio dept was incompetent! And that's some recommendation when your dh was about to undergo a life threatening heart operation.

Storm his office and lock him in it if you have to. As sw has implied, the last thing that hospital's Trust wants is adverse publicity - and, after the way your dh was treated prior to his latest op, you've got shedloads of manure that particular commodity to cover them in.

In the highly improbable event that the police get called, make the Trust's worst nightmare come true by calling the local press and making sure you only leave the hospital when their photographers are outside Grin

izzyizin · 11/09/2012 15:53

If you got arrested 'cos you held the CD to ransom, I reckon that there wouldn't be a jail secure enough to hold you for more than 5 minutes once mumsnetters got on the case Grin

It's showdown at the Not OK corral time, honey. Go in with all guns blazing and set fire to their saddles Smile

Donkeysdontridebicycles · 11/09/2012 15:54

Supporting ((hugs)) to you with your ongoing strength and courage, and your brave DH and DCs.

skyebluesapphire · 11/09/2012 16:14

thank you for taking the time to update us. Still very much thinking of you and I am glad that Dr Hero has turned out to be such a fantastic doctor for you.

((hugs))