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Cake and eat it?

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Lovingfreedom · 25/06/2012 19:19

Hello - what do you reckon. I've been seeing a guy for a few months that I met on internet dating site. He seems really keen and we've been in close contact and got quite close. Been away for a couple of weekends together. He comes over and cuts the grass for me. I make him lovely meals. He takes me out for dinner. We have fun. Share sense of humour. He's easy going and understanding. Seems caring and attentive. Very complimentary to me. He says that he loves me, which I don't feel able to reciprocate in as many words although I do 'love' his company. He's said not to worry about this, he's relaxed about it.

I've just come out of a 15 year relationship with a very difficult man and have two children. I suppose I'm not used to being with a guy who is so nice to me. I'm on my guard for evidence that he's going to change or turn. And I'm wondering if I got too involved too quickly and if I would have been better spending more time on my own for a while. I'm not needy - pretty independent and I am calling the shots. I told him before I'm not happy with girlfriend/boyfriend labels but recently has started using these terms again. I'm pretty sure if I asked him to back off he would. It's always been up to me.

I feel pretty comfortable with him sexually etc. I've been more adventurous with him than previous partners and enjoyed it..but perhaps wondering if this is leading somewhere else. Although, he's always respected my boundaries and again, down to me to call shots. Not felt any pressure to do anything I didn't want to. Been really fun.

Dunno...have a trip booked for late July. Part of me thinking about pulling out of this and going on my own. Although I'm also quite excited about going with him. Aaahh!! I think I want cake and eat it. I like having a man, and the sex of course, as well as knocking about with him..but also like freedom of being single. I'm not sure what my problem is! Just looking for some feedback I suppose.

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izzyizin · 26/06/2012 12:41

It's the pyschopath's hook, honey. Love bombing, sex, and flattery: www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=love%20bombing%20psychopaths&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpsychopathyawareness.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F11%2F15%2Fthe-psychopaths-hook-love-bombing-sex-and-flattery%2F&ei=5p7pT6CHNofe8APz-eHFDQ&usg=AFQjCNGEjypaCP18bprfQOpGz3gaEM6KwA&cad=rja

And we all know what psychopaths are capable of.

Can someone please tell me how to make neat little links?

Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 12:44

Thanks - I'm thinking about this. What's best thing to do now? I think I've been a bit of an idiot. Got caught hook, line, sinker.

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izzyizin · 26/06/2012 13:04

Not necessarily. There's a chance that he's simply an emotionally needy soul, which is not uncommon after bereavement. When did he become a widower?

His late dw would most probably have been his 'girlfriend' before their marriage and that may be the term he uses for significant others. Does he seem a tad 'outmoded'?

In any event, forewarned is forearmed. Unless you've been fooling us as well as yourself, it doesn't sound as if you've fallen head over heels and, as I remarked before, providing you keep your feet on the ground and your head out of the clouds, there's no reason why you shouldn't continue your dalliance.

Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 13:12

I really don't know. He is OTT with his praise, which I generally brush off. 'you're so beautiful' etc etc. I don't really listen to it tbh. We have loads of fun together but he is a bit full on too. His wife died 7 years ago of a brain tumour. He doesn't seem outmoded at all. He has seen a few women since but according to him the step-daughters were really upset about that. He's not had a serious relationship since.

I'm not head over heels but I do feel vulnerable and I'm aware that I've probably been leaning on him recently. I live alone with 2 kids (some of the time). I have loads of friends but most close friends/family are in different parts of the country. My ex is erratic and still on a roller-coaster between being verbally abusive/threatening and wanting to be my best mate (currently in that phase but I'm resisting). I have had a rule for myself from the start to make sure that I keep at least as much time for friends as for seeing man. And I hardly see him when the kids are home.

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izzyizin · 26/06/2012 13:35

He might be a genuine guy who reckons you're the best thing since sliced bread.

He might be a charmer who likes the thrill of the chase and who'll leave you high and dry once you appear to reciprocate his alleged love.

Or he might be a socio/psychopath.

You pays your money and you takes your pick. And I'm guessing that you'll be trying all 3 outfits on him and making them fit.

While you're enjoying his company and he's providing you with a welcome diversion from the same old, I would suggest you go with the flow. Time always tells.

MissFaversam · 26/06/2012 13:51

Swinging? Has he mentioned swinging then or have I read it wrong?

dondon33 · 26/06/2012 14:10

FWIW I think he sounds fine Loving. He may be OTT with his praise but it could be that he genuinely means it and actually wants to let you know.
I'm not surprised that you are wary but be careful not to kill something that could be out of fear for what isn't there.
I agree with izzyizin - go with the flow. Enjoy it for what it is and if you feel or he proves something's not right then end it and put it down to experience.

Pmsl at the golden shower :)
I was once asked to participate and being a person who will try most things at least once, I started planning the most sensiblehygienic logistical side :)
"ok, where can we get plastic sheeting?" "we could do it in the bathroom, would that be a passion killer?" "would it be the same for you if I had a peg on my nose?" "perhaps we should drink lots of water to dilute our pee"
Needless to say it didn't happen, I killed the moment and for some reason he didn't want to continue :) :)

izzyizin · 26/06/2012 14:43

"would it be the same for you if I had a peg on my nose?" Grin

Do you reckon an enterprising eBayer is flogging gasmasks or is there still an opportunity to corner this niche market, dondon?

izzyizin · 26/06/2012 14:44

He's not mentioned it yet, MissF Wink

MissFaversam · 26/06/2012 14:49

He seems to like the idea of other men finding his girlfriend attractive

Erm..possibly interest in swinging etc but maybe not and you know..I can handle that conversation too if it arises

Hmm, got a feeling that this is what he's ambling for OP.

Over complimenting etc.

Maybe that's fine with you though?

Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 14:58

Yeah...I dunno. He says that it's a fantasy but he's a regular guy who just wants to be happy with his gf. I wouldn't necessarily rule it out completely, depending on the environment (and the other people! lol). Never really considered it before but.... He has loaned me a few Ewan Morrison books...oh yeah...maybe that's a sign! He mentioned handcuffs but very gently, tentatively tbh. I was up for it and bought them. But hotel bed wasn't suitable. I was a bit disappointed!

Then he suggested getting them out one night here (at my house, kids away don't worry!). Was a bit out of the blue and I wasn't really in the mood (work in the morning kind of thing). He was totally fine. Ex would have been moody about anything like that. New guy was just concerned that he'd offended me, or I was upset or something (I wasn't just need to get a bit psyched up for that kind of thing! lol). He doesn't seem to want to talk about other women...the fantasy seems to be mainly about other blokes, but alway involving me, which I find different! Is this too much information? lol

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MissFaversam · 26/06/2012 15:00

Call me a prude if you like MissF is a prude but I always find that if you enter into rather kinky sex with someone you don't really know so well it can be a bit of a disaster as in knocking your self esteem and you becoming a bit "needy" hence, voila, the tables have turned.

Just a thought.

Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 15:03

Hmmm - really how? I don't think I'm needy as far as sex goes. More in terms of need the grass cut!

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MissFaversam · 26/06/2012 15:06

Sorry, wrong wording there OP. I just think he's asking you for too much in the bedroom at the moment.

MissFaversam · 26/06/2012 15:07

I didn't mean sexually needy OP, I meant emotionally.

Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 15:17

Yeah I can see what you're saying. I feel like my self esteem has improved if anything not the other way around and feel more able to explore sexuality in a way that I want to. My ex was weird like that. a. he didn't last long enough to sustain a sexual fantasy (!) b. he always picked fault with the way I look (despite me being quite good looking/in shape) and I never felt good naked in front of him c. if I described a fantasy or talked dirty, he'd enjoy it at the time but then bring it up later and accuse me of something (either wanting to do it, being unfaithful, being a slag etc). He is a jerk though.

Like I said earlier, it's not the sex that bothers me. That is pretty good. It's the gf/bf where is this all leading stuff... if it stays as it is then I'm happy. I suppose I can just make sure it stays as it is or call it a day if it changes in a way that I don't like.

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Lovingfreedom · 26/06/2012 15:21

FAOD, I'm not getting into the swinging scene any time soon! I'd be terrified tbh...not least in case I met someone I knew! lol

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izzyizin · 26/06/2012 15:27

I reckon he's a pimp more into threesomes and voyeurism than swinging, Miss F.

As long as he's wearing the handcuffs you're in charge, honey. Keep it that way.

Opentooffers · 26/06/2012 16:00

Sometimes exploring boundaries can be fun as can pushing them a little but be careful not to overstep it. As long as comfortable with it no harm. Be clear to yourself about whether you are doing things to purely please him or if it's pleasing you too, then you should be ok on that score. As far as GF/BF goes, if you want him to be exclusive to you then he already is a BF so you are kidding yourself. If you feel you want to be exclusive to him then that makes you a GF too. If you want to be free to date others then it's only fair to inform him of your intent. If it's fine with him, because he'd like to watch, and you feel that's not your thing then time to cut loose. Just because you're a BF/GF does not mean that you have to involve the kids or see each other all the time, so what's to fear? Keep your friends and family separate from it all and stay as you are if you want and he's up for that.

dondon33 · 26/06/2012 17:13

Do you reckon an enterprising eBayer is flogging gasmasks or is there still an opportunity to corner this niche market, dondon?

:) Izzy, now I think about it...maybe a gimp style mask, waterproof of course, would be more apt for the situation. I shall begin my research :)

izzyizin · 26/06/2012 17:38

I'm liking your idea, dondon.

Waterproof gimp-style gas masks in a range of colours to harmonise with a variety of bedroom decors - plus camouflage for those al fresco moments? With co-ordinating rubber sheets? And rubber gloves and rubbers ...

Shall we make it joint venture? We could advertise our wares on this site Grin

AnyFucker · 26/06/2012 17:45

I know I'm a right bloody spoilsport, but why do women think it's somehow necessary to do all this "exploring" (and it's usually some variety of BDSM) with somebody they already feel a bit uestionable about ?

Surely you do all this "boundary-pushing" with someone you trust implicitly. You don't trust him implicitly, OP, or you wouldn't be here, asking us.

It's not compulsory to turn yourself into something you are not, OP. Really, it isn't. And so soon ? I don't understand it.

AnyFucker · 26/06/2012 17:45

questionable

izzyizin · 26/06/2012 18:07

Seduction is one thing. Corruption is entirely another as that way addictions and enslavements (no pun intended) lie.

izzyizin · 26/06/2012 18:19

I've done nude with pearls and stockings under the fur coat turning up on his doorstep, but that has to be the extent of my dressing up as there's not enough tena lady products in the world that could cope with the inevitable.

Golden showers? It'd be drought due to pissing myself laughing premature downpour at the thought.