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sorry, another 'am I going mad' threads... what is this???

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GingerBeer1234 · 20/06/2012 15:00

I think I?m going a bit mad. Would anybody be able to let me know what they think of this? I?m in that awful shaky post-row state, not had enough sleep and feel very down .. any advice would be gratefully received.

DH went out for a few drinks with a friend last night. He must have got back about 1am I think and I woke up at about 1.40am because of his loud snoring, which had also woken up our DS, aged 14 months. I got up to see DS, who was wide awake, but I couldn?t get him back to sleep. After I went back to bed, DH was still snoring really loudly. I shushed him quite crossly but he didn?t hear, so in the end, I got quite angry and got up, turned the light on and stood over him, telling him to be quiet as he?d woken us both up.
Got back into bed, and basically told him to stop bloody snoring , then he woke up in a start. I told him he was snoring really loudly, and in response, he told me to F off, then when I said really angrily ?how dare you?, he lashed out at me quite violently and hit me on the arm. I think I started crying then, mostly in shock, but he told me to shut up. I asked him to go downstairs (we have a student staying with us - I know, poor him, but I don?t think he heard us, it was all loud hissing really, rather than yelling) which eventually he did, but after he called me a c**t eight times ( I counted) and repeatedly told me to F off.

It?s now the day after and I?m really devastated. I called him up and said he should have taken some time off work this morning (he?s self employed) to sort out the mess that I think he?s caused, but the phone call turned into a row. He couldn?t see (or wouldn?t admit) that to me it was totally unreasonable him coming to bed after a load of drinks and waking both me and DS up, and then on top of that, getting very angry and hitting me etc. He ended the call by ranting at me ?you need to give me respect?.

Oh god, I?ve just read this back and it sounds truly terrible.

Can anyone advise? I would say that our marriage is not very happy on the whole ? massive communication problems where he cannot express himself, gets very defensive etc rather than just being able to talk normally.

I just can?t get that this is my fault at all. How can it be? He honestly said to me on the phone ?let sleeping dogs lie?, as in, I shouldn?t have woken him up. So what was I supposed to have done ? just lie there listening to him snoring while I?m awake for hours? How is this sane??

I should probably say this is the latest in a long line of what I see as totally unreasonable, unnnecessarily stressful episodes involving him. It's probably not the best example, but I'm reachign the end of my tether with it all.

Thanks to those who've read this far...

OP posts:
LovesPeace · 20/06/2012 15:08

And you are with him because?

Xales · 20/06/2012 15:12

Men who lash out at women, hit them when drunk (or not), call them cunts and tell them to fuck off do not deserve respect.

AbigailAdams · 20/06/2012 15:50

That was awful GingerBeer. You don't have to stay with this abusive man. He does not deserve you, your son or your respect. It isn't sane that you were expected to put up with his snoring and suck it up. My husband snores and he always apologises and turns over. That is pretty normal in such a situation.

He needs to move out. Try ringing Women's Aid for some RL help. It sounds like he may be escalating his behaviour if it has been bad for a while. They may be able to advise on your options (it may be easier and safer for you to leave).

izzyizin · 20/06/2012 16:00

If this is about him snoring on a regular or occasional basis, the problem can be resolved by separate bedrooms with his being located out of earshot of yours and the dc.

If this is about him being a cunt, the problem can be resolved by separate houses.

Check out www.womensaid.org.uk and make contact with your nearest branch.

solidgoldbrass · 20/06/2012 16:10

OK, very few people react well to being woken up suddenly when they are drunk. Anyone doing it to me might well be told to fuck off out of it, but I wouldn't hit them or carry on shouting abuse. He sounds pretty unpleasant generally: it's almost certainly time for a think about what his good points are, if any.

GingerBeer1234 · 20/06/2012 16:31

Thanks very much for the replies. They made me cry, i suppose because i feel awful and the whole thing is a mess.

He does have his good points of course, otherwise it would be easy. but at times, it's very hard with him. he's not a very easy person to deal with. He does have that very self-centred/acting like a child thing (the 2 seem to go hand in hand don't they) which i think so many men have.

I also know I can't put up with it and I'm frightened about what that means. thanks again.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 20/06/2012 17:00

What are you frightened about exactly? Being independent? Managing financially? Depriving DS of a Dad that is self-centred, childish and a nasty aggressive drunk that can't even apologise? Your husband's reaction when you tell him it's all over? Bit of all of those?

Everyone makes mistakes and I'm pretty sure I've said/done some horrible things when three sheets to the wind. But a decent person would apologise and make amends. Not rant and rave demanding 'respect'... Hmm

So whatever it is that's frightening you about going solo, get some good advice from CAB, solicitors, Women's Aid, friends, relatives... and you'll be much better placed to make a decision.

lazarusb · 20/06/2012 17:53

Agree with everything Cogito says. If he really thinks he doesn't owe you a massive apology (at least) then he is far short of the sort of man you and your ds need.

PurityBrown · 20/06/2012 19:04

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pollyblue · 20/06/2012 19:11

I would lose any respect I might have had for anyone who called me a cunt in the heat of the moment, but point blank refused to apologise in the cold light of day.

My DH snores like a blighter when he's had a few beers and on the odd occassion it's been bad enough to really disturb me has offered to go downstairs with a sleeping bag. That's what I think most caring partners would do.

CommunistMoon · 20/06/2012 19:25

As PurityBrown says, most guys are not selfish or childish, let alone abusive. Living with a poor excuse for a man tends to lower women's expectations and skew their viewpoint on this, IME.

Here are a couple of recent helpful threads about what you should reasonably expect from a relationship:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/a1486120-Normal-relationships

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/698029-Right-listen-up-everybody/AllOnOnePage

Wishing you the best.

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