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Dating thread 15! cock-cages, hopeful pensioners the occasional glorious success!

999 replies

Snapespeare · 18/05/2012 12:45

apologies for title, I am bereft of ideas as the sodding times 'kindly' edited my profile for me. Angry

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MyLittleMiracles · 19/05/2012 19:46

He is mine. Dipsy. I call hum first. Or we could take turns.

feelinglonely · 19/05/2012 21:08

Watch,just take ur time and think about how u feel.Mlm,well done for a GD date.Been watching Titanic love it.
I just ignored his phone calls and messages but he didnt give up,he turned up first thing this morning to apologize. I stupidly feel for it(I get all those butterflies at the sight of him,u know what I mean lol) n we had a great time.just can't trust him but will enjoy the moment n see how it goes.

MyLittleMiracles · 19/05/2012 21:40

I am switching between titanic on 4+1 and the Chelsea match. 1-1 full time, going to extra time. Come on Chelsea!

TimeForMeAndDD · 19/05/2012 21:41

Watch Sometimes we have to go backwards in order to move forwards. Don't worry and don't be too hard on yourself, you will get there Smile

MyLittleMiracles · 19/05/2012 22:02

Sometimes you have to, so that you know without a doubt what you done was right.

MyLittleMiracles · 19/05/2012 22:43

We won on penalties!!! I am going to bed a very happy woman.

watchoutforthatsnail · 19/05/2012 22:46

Hes doing my head in. Keeps ringing, I told him it was too intense. And he told me to think, but keeps ringing. So I've taken the phone off the hook. Then he starts texting. I got 7 in a row without me replying. Then I sent one to say I was busy. And he replied ' that's it, you didn't say goodbye, will I speak to you later then'
This is not his usual behavior at all. I've never known him act this way. I'm a bit worried about him. He seems to have lost it a little bit. I mean thats unhinged isn't it.

watchoutforthatsnail · 19/05/2012 22:50

Like, he seems obsessed.
Hes planned what will happen when I see him ( Which I haveht said ill do ) and how Many dates and what the next step is. I told him to slow down and he just said ' we dobt need to'

I'm worried about him. It's not normal. Nor his usual personality.

I don't know What to do.

ChaoticismyLife · 19/05/2012 22:55

He has no respect for you or your feelings. He doesn't give a damn about what you want so long as he gets what he wants. He's arrogant and is used to having his own way so is shocked that you have the temerity to say no to him instead of letting him have his own way and doing what he wants/says.

Sorry watch but that's how it's reading to me.

MyLittleMiracles · 19/05/2012 22:57

The how many dates where etc. Sounds controlling to me etc. He should be taking it at a pace you are both comfortable with. I would say to him its a little full on and its late. We will talk tomorrow and leave it at that for tonight. Work out what you want before talking to him again. Write it down and stick to it. I am only saying this to help. Hope I don't sound patronizing only its easy to get lost in the moment.

TimeForMeAndDD · 19/05/2012 23:58

Watch as harsh as it sounds he is not your responsibility and it isn't your place to worry about him. I understand you care about him and don't want to hurt him but you have to be practical here. Do you really want to go there? Do you want to take on a man with mental health issues? Or whatever issues he has. Have you got the emotionally energy or the time to spare for that and all that it entails? Because this man will consume you, trust me, if you give him the slightest bit of attention he will demand more, and he will continue demanding more until he has you right where he wants you.

The absolute best thing you can do, for yourself, is have no contact. Do not engage with him. He can't be your friend, he doesn't want to be your friend, if he did he would respect your wishes, he wouldn't be over stepping the boundaries, he would be respecting you. Don't make the mistake of being flattered by his attention, it isn't about you, it's about him. Don't feel guilty either, he didn't feel guilty when he had you choosing furniture for a flat he was intending to share with his girlfriend. Just ignore, ignore, ignore and look forward to your date on Tuesday with a lovely, intelligent man.

MsCellophane · 20/05/2012 00:14

Watch, agree with Time and all the others - don't engage

You said he is good looking with lots going for him? He isn't used to being rebuffed, he doesn't know how to handle people not falling at he's feet. So he is trying everything in the book to get you to engage for his ego sake

He knows how to mindfuck, don't let him. You are too good and nice to let him weedle his way into anything. Ignore is the way to go

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 06:09

Oh, I know that. There's no need to sppolgise, I'm not offended.I don't want to be involved with him. Starting again doesn't help, that lasted all of two hours.

My phone kept going off in the night, more texts. Attemps to get my attention, judging by the total randomness of them.

I know I'm.not responsible for him. I feel it though..but that's probably part of his plan..to make me feel guilty. When I don't have anything to feel guilty about. And ive told him.sobmsby times I'm not interested anymore. Butbge doesn't listen.

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 06:14

As he said ' I believe we are meant to be together, and if you didnt believe it, I'd make you'
That's sinister I think. And shows how he thinks. I don't think he's going to let go easily.

I'll just send another message, tell him ive thought and I'm not interested, but wish him wekl. Then ignore. Again.

feelinglonely · 20/05/2012 07:13

Watch,Stay strong and don't feel guilty,he will not give up now that he's realised he made a mistake. Are you able to resist him when he comes to your door right now?Only you can decide but stay strong

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 07:35

He doesn't live near. So I doubt he will turn up.
Resist isn't the right word. I don't want to be in a relationship with him. I don't..
I just feel trapped by what seems And feels like his total emotional dependence on me.

So I know hes struggling and I feel to blame for that. And I know its not my responsibility, and its most likely he's dofng it on purpose for that effect anyway.

TimeForMeAndDD · 20/05/2012 08:22

Watch you are trapped by your own feelings. You know you don't want to be with him, you know you don't want to engage with him but your feelings are causing you confusion and conflict. Don't act on your feelings. He knows exactly what he doing but every time he gets a response from you, even if that response is a negative one, he gets what he wants. Every response from you is an invitation for him to contact you again. The only way to put an end to this is to completely ignore him. He will soon find someone else to be emotionally dependent on, he's done it before and he will do it again. Ignore!

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 08:40

I.know :(

Ive sent a email, again saying I'm not interested, wish him well, but that he's.not to contact me again.

He will of course pay no attention to that.

Which means I have to totally ignore him when he does contact me. Which I bloody had done. Even when he visited ( which I'm not convinced he actually did)

Its just all so stupid.

MyLittleMiracles · 20/05/2012 08:41

Something I read on Facebook this morning "its so hard to forget the guy who forgot you" isn't it bleeding just.

watch you do really need to be strong. We will hold your hand through it. You deserve better and you know it. Sometimes no matter how much you care about someone you have to cut all ties so that you can move on.

TimeForMeAndDD · 20/05/2012 08:49

Look at it this way Watch, he is complicated, he comes with complications, he is causing you a major headache now so imagine the headache he would cause you if you allowed him in!! If I were you I would block him, no contact from him equals less temptation from you. Stay strong Smile

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 09:04

The only thing I cant Block are texts. I've blocked eveything else. If I could block texts I would.

I know I can't allow him in. Yesterday I spoke to him and got guilted into talking to him all day. Probably why he was being so full on, because he wanted me to committ to something while he had me. I expect thats why he kept up the stream of texts too.

It's just weird though. Most people would just leave it. I've been strong and ignored him months before but he doesn't give up.

And eventually I feel so bad I cave.

TimeForMeAndDD · 20/05/2012 09:11

That's what also makes him dangerous Watch, 'most people would just leave it', he's not leaving it because he feels entitled. He isn't leaving it because he has no respect for your boundaries. He is telling you who he is, loud and clear. I can understand how you feel though because this kind of man is also charming, it's part of the package, it's what gets a woman hooked. He won't give up while ever he is getting a response from you, even if it's a negative response. If you want rid you have to ignore. Totally ignore.

watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 09:24

And he's still lying. The day he said he was here. He was posting all day on one of his sites. He was posting on his gf's facebook. ( all bantery stuff between them) Which is locked. But I can see that.
I confronted him About it and he denied it. Said he cant see anything I'm talking about and perhaps I'm confused. But that it isn't relevant anyway. Then we had a huge row. Because It's relevant. Because he lies.

The man is a fantasist.
And I think he's projected a whole lot of stuff onto me. So that's why he wont let.go. It's not me he's letting go of, rather than this whole thing he's built in his head.

And I keep trying to untangle my way out.
It's just really hard. Because I feel guilty. Even Though I know It's not my fault.

And I had ignored him for nearly a month too. And now I'm back at square one. Again.

Snapespeare · 20/05/2012 09:24

Oh watch, i really feel for you. Agree with time & chaotic s very good advice. I honestly think if you did go there (& you are being very sensible) he would absolutely break your heart.

No news from me. I currently even repulse 70 year olds (!) another fab night with PM, will need to learn to accept it as it is and extract myself a little, it's going nowhere Sad & it takes so much energy. Sad

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watchoutforthatsnail · 20/05/2012 09:28

I briefly fall for it everytime. I just need to totally ignore him.
He can only text because everything's blocked. So I just need to ignore.
If I get another barrage of texts I might threaten the police for harrassment ( can I do that)
Which obviously wouldnt be good for his image. So......

I just don't want to have to do that.

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