The Brave Babes Battle Bus - BOINGing Into Spring, The Jesus(WhatNext) Way!

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Hello, tis me, Mouse

I'm one of the Brave Babes aboard the Battle Bus, on the journey to sobriety.

We have drinkers, non-drinkers, inbetweeners, notquitesurers...... which is all fantastic.

No matter who you are or where you're at in your personal quest to get where you want to be, come grab a seat and join in the natter, just jump right in.

And, if you'd like to see where we've been up until now, HERE is a link to the last thread and the ones before it

See you soon.

it's between lesbianism and spinsterism msgee - not sure which will win out. more chance of the latter round these parts. sorry it was a strange thing for me to blurt out! you never missed any major announcements or anything msgee

I've been thinking a great deal about whether I should give up completely or just try to drink like other people (ie no more than 2-3 drinks and not every day). But then I have to remind myself that 2-3 drinks only does the trick some of the time and that inevitably an occasion will arise when nothing less than a whole bottle will do, or even one and a half.

So is there any point in attempting civilised drinking? Has anyone managed it? I feel the beginnings of a craving coming on but with DD sitting downstairs reading her book and a nice calm evening ahead of us, I'm detemined not to let the bastard get me into its grip. I don't want one of those weekends that JWN so poetically describes! Anyone else longing for a nice glass of sauv blanc?

i just like to collect all the badges you know? bipolar, alcoholic, lesbian, single mum, am i missing anything?

Well I will....

Drunk sex when young and experimental was fun - removed my prudish inhibitions enough to let me relax and enjoy. But in reality that kind of drunk sex was probably 2 or 3 small glasses of wine, at most.

Drunk sex with xh - nightmare. No choice about having sex and it was easier for me to 'allow' it if I was drunk, rather than fighting against the ineveitable . xh knew it and would buy booze so that I would 'submit'. I think that is why the first drink I had on my own, when he was out, felt so liberating - it was just 'a drink' just for my own pleasure and not with any sexual consequence.

Drunk sex with lovely, lovely current dp (actually dh, but I can't get used to calling him that) was a bit inevitable given that I was drinking most evenings. So that horrible guilt trip of him not knowing how much I'd had to drink, and me trying to pretend I was OK, then trying to really feel my way into what was happening, using every ounce of concertration to hold on to the glimmer of the wonderful things that were happening. The shame of knowing that I'd maybe fallen asleep / passed out midway through. The contortions of trying to keep my face turned away so he wasn't overpowered by alcohol fumes. The horror of being so drunk that I momentarily confused do with xh and felt revulsion and fear. The kiddology of pretending I was on the point of orgasm so that my considerate dp could stop holding back. The fear of going on top in case I fell asleep and smothered him. And even when I did managed to snatch it back from the brink, the lack of remembrance the next morning.

Sober sex? Every single sense working. What is happening heightened by hearing birds sing outside. Kissing with happy abandon. Shivering with delight. Waking up with a smile on your face and a 'boing' in your heart.

go get yourself a coke or something sadsoma - you'd be surprised how much a fizzy sugary drink can hit the spot - it's often the sugar we're really craving ime at 'drink o clock'.

X-post with many others ^^ was in response to JWNs post

Well done MsGee!!

Venus I luuuuuurrvve macaroni cheese. Make it too often for DD and me for lunch. Total comfort food. There are still some foods I can't imagine eating without wine to go with, but for now I'm going to stick to things I can eat without, and worry about the other stuff when it happens.

very brave and honest post venus. thank you x

Will do Saf and maybe some chocolate from DD's Easter stash :)

Oo-er venus - I want to shiver with delight!

Hi Nomad and welcome aboard. Do I get to say that yet since I'm such a total newbie?

The old guy MIFLAW used to say 'whoever got up first this morning is the longest sober today' so go right ahead mia - we're all only one day older than yesterday.

remind me to replace the packet of maltesers out of ds's easter egg please

soma I'm hope to be able to drink 'normally' - that is, to have a glass of nice red with a lovely meal, and maybe share a bottle with DP on a Friday or Saturday night. Have an evening out or friends round where I have a few drinks but don't get totally pissed by the end of the evening.

At this point I really don't know whether that's going to be possible for me. I really hope so but I think I need to 'reboot' my relationship with alcohol first. I'm not looking at the long term at the mo because all you wondrous babes on here are telling me to just think about today, so that's what I'm doing. The thought of never drinking is absolutely terrifying to me, so I'm not thinking about it.

saf disabled..... ?

saf did you have a little malteser emergency? Tell DS you must have thieving mice about. Or blame the dog.

Uh-oh first twinge. Just an insistent little thought, an image of a glass of chilled white with condensation on the glass.

The witching hour is approaching.

saf I need to keep my spreadsheet updated y'know? you live in a rural area too. So there's that.

venus ((( )))

mia have a soft drink. Now. Then you'll be drinking it already at 5pm.

Right whose going to help me with party food. Mini scones done. Pass the parcel wrapped. Just need to make biscuits and mini pizzas - can do tmrw! C x

yy malteser emergency hit.

do something different mia - a walk - a bath - an exercise dvd - sit in the garden with a cup of tea - anything. just something different to pass ten minutes till it goes away again.

Yes ma'am(s)!

Eaten cheese biccies grapes.
Have glass beside me of fruit smoothie over ice.
Am about to watch episode of montalbano to practice listening to Italian (am at very early stage of learning Italian).
Luckily DD has absented herself most of the afternoon, seranading the neighbours with her guitar. Of course she will return at peak stomach-clenching craving time.

I'm dug into the trenches ladies, and I'm going for a successful Day 4!!

mia nothing wrong with a lovely glass with condensation on the outside. I have a bottle of BottleGreen ginger and lemongrass spritzer in my fridge. When i pout that into my beautiful glass, it will mist up on the outside and I will sip, and enjoy the delightful refreshing flavours of new-cut grass, reminisce about tropic holidays in asia, savour the warming ginger undernotes. Pefect with sole macaroni???? eh what?? OK I'll re-think that one and have the lemongrass and ginger with nibbles instead.

POUR not pout

mia there are many, many drinks that perfectly accompany the foods we eat. have you ever been to a beer-tasting masterclass or a whiskey tasting masterclass where they find a whiskey that gos with salmon, and a belgian beer that goes with chocolate? I'm not promoting either of these as an alternative, but pointing out that if we look hard enough we can find non-alcoholic drinks that are the most perfect accompaniment to whatever we are eating. Sometimes its an exotic cordial, and sometime its a good old cup of tea. Scottish High Tea anyone? (fish and chips, bread and butter and a mug of tea)

i'm going to pour myself a large glass of schloer from the fridge in a glass. possibly the first time i've drank it since the 70's so no clue what it will taste like.

is that scottish high tea?? you're a classy lot up there!

NonAstemia, sounds like you stopped the craving in its tracks. I think I'm over mine and will have tea shortly and food always dulls the yearning for alcohol. I hear what you're saying about being able to drink sensibly and that it's best not to project too far into the future. Whether I can "reboot" my relationship with booze I can't say but like you am trying to take it one day at a time.