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Finally slept with love of my life and think my heart is going to be broken

675 replies

ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 24/03/2012 09:16

Am devastated. This is long I'm afraid...
I've loved this man for four years. He lives in my town but we're from the same village orginally. He's 17 years older than me but in many ways my best friend and we are very similar. He works all over the world in patches - last year he was away probably about 20 weeks, so when he's here we spend a lot of time together.

I think he's always known how I feel about him, but he's never taken advantage, never embarassed me and has made comments indicating the age difference between us is an issue for him. But we've always had a very friendly, bickery relationship and our friends and his family jokingly call us a married old couple.

Thursday evening he returns home from abroad and we arrange to meet up in local pub with lots of mutual friends. He's in a really bright, jokey mood and at one point when our friends' attentions where on someone else, he told me he'd been talking with work colleagues about being away and love, etc. He said it was like a lightbulb moment and realised I was his soulmate and he loved me. I also applied recently for a job which would have meant eventually moving away and I think this made him stop and think. He's packing in the working away later this year so settling down aorund here. I couldn't respond cos my stomach was doing knots and I was half scared it was a horrible joke.

We left and walked to pub near my house and had a gin and tonic and he asked if he could come back to mine. I said yes, knowing what it would lead to, and it did. Not going to go into deep detail (it's early!) but we spent a lot of time talking, telling each other we loved each other, kissing, cuddling, and then yes, other stuff. It was the most open and honest and actually best sexual experience I've ever had. (Yes I KNOW how lame that sounds.) He said at one point this reason this was so great is that it was sex and love together, and I told him I'd never actually had that. (True.) He left as I had an early start the next day, and I went to bed the happiest person ever.

He made no contact yesterday at all. I sent him a cheerful good morning text and then in the afternoon a quick one to say I was popping into pub on way home if he fancied a quick drink. No response. I begin panicking. I rang a very good female mutual friend of ours and explained, swearing her to secrecy.) She was really excited for us, but said he's probably panicking about it and, knowing him as she does, scared of being rejected. So I text him before I went to bed saying I really meant everything I'd said last night and hope we can talk soon but it's up to him.

What has happened? Part of me is angry and thinks if he just wanted a quick fuck, why say the love and soulmates bits, and WHY WITH ME? But most of me is just gutted and wants to cry. I don't know what to do. I know this problem isn't as serious as many, but I feel like a major thing in my life has just been pulled away. Any words of advice/comfort will probs make me bawl, but will be appreciated.

OP posts:
KarmaK · 26/03/2012 12:26

Our lemon-hair-scented heroine

the lemon scented hair sounds nice! I might buy a lemon scented shampoo later

Kaluki · 26/03/2012 12:30

Oh dear Sad
No longer Envy of your life any more Gin, yesterday sounds a bit cheap and sordid to me really (Not the S&M stuff - each to their own, but the booty call aspect and the fact you just did what he wanted and then he left)
Say you are OK with it if you like but he used you and you let him.
Maybe you should take off those beer goggles and look for a decent man who will treat you with more respect.
Sad

Longtalljosie · 26/03/2012 12:51

I suspect she's not come back because she's feeling like ten types of shite this morning, now that the booze and the bravado has worn off..,

Maryz · 26/03/2012 12:52

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namechangingtodiscussBDSM · 26/03/2012 12:58

FWIW, myself and OH have done our fair share of roleplaying, BDSM, etc. More than 'experimentation'.

I would say, and I think that 99% of the sane people involved in BDSM that I have talked to would agree, that the safest and most meaningful setting for it is within a loving, longterm relationship. Even with a married partner there are unspoken rules: you can't tie someone up and spank them on a night when they are not really that into it and have to be coaxed.

If you're not doing it with your lover, other sensible options are with someone that you know very well and trust, or a stranger whom you have a very very good reason to totally trust. If you're remotely considerate of each other's emotional well-being, you don't do it with people that there is unresolved history with. It's ok if you fancy each other a lot, but if one of you is in love, it's someone your partner is jealous of, you are exes and had a bad breakup, etc. you don't go there.

Another thing that almost every single person in the scene who isn't INSANE would agree on is that you don't play when you are drunk or high. A large glass of wine beforehand to unwind is about the limit.

Even outside of BDSM, if I was totally in love with someone and they wanted to sleep with me, I would make it clear that I felt too strongly to have a casual thing. If someone was in unrequited love with me, I wouldn't have casual sex with them, knowing that I didn't feel the way they did. I think these are normal adult things that most people would respect. If you want casual sex, there are plenty of other people to get it from without anyone getting hurt.

The fact that Mr Soulmate didn't respect any of this suggests to me that he either:
a) has deep emotional problems and can't form healthy relationships,
b) is simply out for whatever he can get and is happy to use you, his supposed friend,
c) can only get turned on when he's manipulating people,
or
d) is an actual sociopath who is looking forward to putting you through hell.

Don't feel guilty about the fun you had. Just be very careful, stick up for yourself and make decisions wisely. Good luck.

fiventhree · 26/03/2012 13:23

" I held back on things I didn't want to do."

Hmm. I think he has manipulator written all over him, and emotional inadequate. And user of younger women.

namechangingtodiscussBDSM · 26/03/2012 13:29

"esp as he did keep checking if I was really ok."

Another interesting phrase. If you're giving someone the time of their life, shouldn't it be obvious whether they're really ok or not?

What this sounds more like is someone simply indulging their own fantasies, meanwhile checking that the other person is still consenting, so as to cover their backs legally.

Skimty · 26/03/2012 13:43

I've been following this thread from the start. What concerns me is the age gap given your families all know each other. My parents were young when they had me and have young friends who have similar age gaps and there is no way their friends would behave with me in the same way as they might with another woman the same age because of knowing my parents. I mean, from your OP, it seems your friend saw you grow up when he was in his 20s which is weird...

KarmaK · 26/03/2012 13:44

Predator

Prolesworth · 26/03/2012 13:46

Yes, predator is the word. Please OP, run a mile from this man before he hurts you any more than he already has.

OracleInaCoracle · 26/03/2012 13:53

Its interesting that you say in your op "It was the most open and honest and actually best sexual experience I've ever had." and thewn later "The long and short of things (3 hours later) is that...erm.... only roleplay, s/m type things seem to turn him on. There, I've said it." so, it wasnt open and honest, was it? If you are into raunchier stuff, more power to you. I am a bit vanilla, but different strokes. But, I think you are trying to justify sleeping with him again, you say "There are things I think we might do again, one day" when you know this isnt going to end well.

badtasteflump · 26/03/2012 14:00

If I were the OPs mum I would be hunting this dirty old perv down with a large stick.... Angry

jackandthebeansprout · 26/03/2012 14:05

So, with him working away so much, all over the world, do you think he is having sexual encounters whilst away, and if so, who with? Is there a chance that he could be using prostitutes to fulfil his BDSM fantasies? If so, I really hope you have used protection...?

CuriousMama · 26/03/2012 14:09

Hope you used protection especially seen as he's been all over the place?

CuriousMama · 26/03/2012 14:09

snap jackandthebeansprout, hadn't read your post.

BrightnessFalls · 26/03/2012 14:22

I hope this isn't a wind up. It's kept me from sleeping!!!!

Frontpaw · 26/03/2012 14:23

I've been out all day (interviews). Whats the update then?

coffeeinbed · 26/03/2012 14:28

Not a wind-up, I have "seen" the the OP post many times, still, S&M aside, he still does behave oddly for someone professing the love of his life.
Might be best to move on.

YNK · 26/03/2012 14:42

Oh dear OP, I'm so sorry you have been used like this by someone you considered a friend and the love of your life.
Please do not give this arsehole one more single moment of your precious time. Chalk it up to experience and move on pronto!

This is a really disfunctional twat (and his friends probably know this too) who has no respect for women to the extent he will even shit on his own doorstep. God alone knows how he behaves when he's working away!
Get yourself a sexual health check, and let your friends know he is not the guy you thought he was so they can support you.
Drop the bravado and allow yourself to feel hurt because now the scales have fallen from your eyes you need to use this experience to be better able to protect yourself in future.

Proudnscary · 26/03/2012 14:58

Can I just say something re those of us who advised her not to contact him again after the first night

I urged her to stop bloody texting and phoning him (she texted three times with no response) because she was not acting self respect.

It was not about urging her letting the poor, confused man have some space FGS.

It was exactly because he was being a tool and of course would have called if he'd given two shits about her that she should not have contacted him!

It's about self preservation and dignity, not about pandering to a man!

But OP's dignity has gone hurtling out the window now, so..meh.

Proudnscary · 26/03/2012 14:58

Arrgh terrible English, soz ^

CuriousMama · 26/03/2012 15:05

Grin at terrible english soz.

Proudnscary · 26/03/2012 15:08
Grin
Lueji · 26/03/2012 15:12

He went for you because no 46 year old woman would lower herself to lie accross a mans knee, after Afew ciders.

I suspect you might be surprised there. Wink And some might not need a few ciders, but each to their own. :o

Gin, I do hope you are not regretting last night and I hope you resolve your feelings for this man.
And try to avoid him when drinking as it may cloud your judgement and it seems that he may well take advantage of that.

I don't think being into S&M precludes a relationship. Not if both are into it.
More his attitude, which is clearly leaning towards fuck buddies.

Up to you, Gin, I just hope you don't get hurt... emotionally, I mean. Grin Or catch something. Shock

Goawaybob · 26/03/2012 15:22

Bloody hell - he must think its his birthday and christmas all rolled into one - he didn't even stay the night. The flavour of the sex doesn't matter, the fact that he just wants no strings attached sex doesn't matter. What matters is this

in order to get no strings, flavoured sex, he has used someone who thought he was her friend, told her what she wants to hear (I love you) just to fulfill his own desires

Angry