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Finally slept with love of my life and think my heart is going to be broken

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ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 24/03/2012 09:16

Am devastated. This is long I'm afraid...
I've loved this man for four years. He lives in my town but we're from the same village orginally. He's 17 years older than me but in many ways my best friend and we are very similar. He works all over the world in patches - last year he was away probably about 20 weeks, so when he's here we spend a lot of time together.

I think he's always known how I feel about him, but he's never taken advantage, never embarassed me and has made comments indicating the age difference between us is an issue for him. But we've always had a very friendly, bickery relationship and our friends and his family jokingly call us a married old couple.

Thursday evening he returns home from abroad and we arrange to meet up in local pub with lots of mutual friends. He's in a really bright, jokey mood and at one point when our friends' attentions where on someone else, he told me he'd been talking with work colleagues about being away and love, etc. He said it was like a lightbulb moment and realised I was his soulmate and he loved me. I also applied recently for a job which would have meant eventually moving away and I think this made him stop and think. He's packing in the working away later this year so settling down aorund here. I couldn't respond cos my stomach was doing knots and I was half scared it was a horrible joke.

We left and walked to pub near my house and had a gin and tonic and he asked if he could come back to mine. I said yes, knowing what it would lead to, and it did. Not going to go into deep detail (it's early!) but we spent a lot of time talking, telling each other we loved each other, kissing, cuddling, and then yes, other stuff. It was the most open and honest and actually best sexual experience I've ever had. (Yes I KNOW how lame that sounds.) He said at one point this reason this was so great is that it was sex and love together, and I told him I'd never actually had that. (True.) He left as I had an early start the next day, and I went to bed the happiest person ever.

He made no contact yesterday at all. I sent him a cheerful good morning text and then in the afternoon a quick one to say I was popping into pub on way home if he fancied a quick drink. No response. I begin panicking. I rang a very good female mutual friend of ours and explained, swearing her to secrecy.) She was really excited for us, but said he's probably panicking about it and, knowing him as she does, scared of being rejected. So I text him before I went to bed saying I really meant everything I'd said last night and hope we can talk soon but it's up to him.

What has happened? Part of me is angry and thinks if he just wanted a quick fuck, why say the love and soulmates bits, and WHY WITH ME? But most of me is just gutted and wants to cry. I don't know what to do. I know this problem isn't as serious as many, but I feel like a major thing in my life has just been pulled away. Any words of advice/comfort will probs make me bawl, but will be appreciated.

OP posts:
TapirBackRider · 24/03/2012 21:34
Grin

What Maryz said ^^

Rhinosaurus · 24/03/2012 21:55

Wow

You both really need to grow up.

Now.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 24/03/2012 22:01

Erm - he didn't 'blank' her in the pub: she blanked him! He asked if she was busy tomorrow and she said yes. All sounds a bit teenager-ish to me.

MummyAnnabella · 24/03/2012 22:08

The gay thing also crossed my mind.

The not staying over also vvvv odd if he's had a lightbulb I'm in love moment.

Whatever will be will be though op and just let it sit now and see where it goes. At best he's had a panic at oh she younger and I know she loves me but am I sure etc and at worst this will free you up to move on and meet someone else without the niggling what if stuff.

Ps mollieo you hav o tell me what he was in the mail for?!!!

Rhinosaurus · 24/03/2012 22:09

You can over analyse on here as much as your like, you will get lots of responses from various angles which either will make you feel like crap/optimistic..... Fact remains....

He is a small town twat. I recognise the type, and sadly he is one.

MollieO · 24/03/2012 22:14

He cheated on his wife and she sold the story as she set up a fake id on fb to snare him. We lost touch after uni but the behaviour in the article wasn't a surprise to me at all. He was 44 too.

butterfingerz · 24/03/2012 22:16

Well don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Maybe he does have an explanation for his behaviour - breathing space, embarrassment, idiocy...

However, I think some men do revel in being the perpetual batchelor, being a dark, mysterious, complicated character (or so they believe themselves to be!). Especially since he's been living that type of lifestyle to the ripe old age of 44, I'm guessing that's gonna be hard to give up. I think the age difference is a factor, he'll know a 27yr woman is highly likely to want to settle down and start a family at some stage. Whereas if he wanted to be a family man, he would have pursued that lifestyle by now, fact is he hasn't. And, you've known each 4 yrs, surely if something was there, it really should have happened before now?

I'm also 27, sorry can't ever imagine being BFs with a 44yr old man (not now as am shacked up with 2 DC, but even as a single female prob not, my dad is only a few yrs older!). Is he a 'young' middle-aged man? I'm just thinking you probably deserve so much better (ie. your own age with the same outlook on relationships).

alwayshappytolisten · 24/03/2012 22:20

I've read this thread through (well most of it anyway) and this is my ten pence worth:
He got caught in the moment (and maybe said too much) and is now thinking through the enormity of the situation and trying to work out what to do.

What's undeniable is that he's being both cruel and cowardly by ignoring your texts. Though having said that.... a) you can't always rely on the mobile network (are you sure he received the texts?) and b) I subscribe to the 'lost in translation' school of thought where texts are concerned - the emotion is rarely conveyed effectively.
He's behaved badly. But I would still pin him down and hear what he has to say for himself before closing this door for good.

Vicky2011 · 24/03/2012 22:20

Well put Rhino

tribpot · 24/03/2012 22:21

I think it is just possible (and I do mean only just) that he:

  • has been terrified since Thursday of the chain of events he's put in motion. Even if they are good changes, they are changes nevertheless. 44 years of essentially being single is a long time and having that first night with someone where there is a lot of emotion and history involved is scary
  • on top of this, OP has made the first move after the event so now it's all on him to make the next move, which logically now has to be the Big Move, the one where one has to declare their hand to the other and be first to do so
  • he takes a coward's approach to putting it off for as long as he hopes he can get away with it and so goes out with his mates where he thinks he can have a night away from potential inner turmoil
  • he doesn't want to tell his mates what's happened and so can't think of a way to have a conversation with OP that might not end up with a huge scene of some kind, so asks her if she's out tomorrow (possibly with the intention of trying to have the conversation then, although it's hardly a convo to have out in a pub).
  • he can't think what to say by text that won't either immediately make her call him (and he doesn't want to talk) or get into a hurtful row by text
  • he knows he's responsible for what happened as he was the one who came on to her.

All in all, they're balancing on a precipice where it feels like one wrong word could send it all crashing down and saying and doing nothing is the safest option. It isn't of course - it's the coward's option.

I would suggest the OP texts (as I think it is very unlikely he will answer the phone) tomorrow morning and says: 'we need to meet to discuss what happened. I think you owe me that courtesy'. And if he doesn't reply to that, then he really has shown his hand. So far I think it's fair to say a very intense situation has been badly handled, but it needs a mature, sober conversation to establish what the next steps are. I really feel for you, OP. He's not a stranger, he's your friend. And that makes his behaviour even more hurtful and inexplicable.

flamingtoaster · 24/03/2012 22:23

Nothing helpful to add - just want to say sorry he has treated you like this.

alwayshappytolisten · 24/03/2012 22:24

I'm with tribpot

hellymelly · 24/03/2012 22:26

OP I think you need to calm down a bit. Your emotions are riding so high that its turned into a state of emergency when he really hasn't done anything wrong other than to take a bit of time to call you. After our first date DH had still not called me after TWO WEEKS!! I called him as i was so fed up waiting. He said he would have called, it hadn't seemed that long!! We hadn't declared love or had sex but even so..TWO WEEKS. Men do have a differnt perspective on this. You are panicking but not allowing him to have a wee panic of his own. You are now getting really mad and might mess up something that all sounded rather lovely. Give him time. Call him when you feel calm and ask to meet and talk things through. He may feel he is too old for you, he may feel in danger of having HIS heart broken, we don't know. And you don't know. He is your lovely friend who you know really well and surely would have shagged and run well before now if that was his agenda. Sounds more like love to me. Talk to him properly and work out together what is going on. (my fingers are crossed..)

tribpot · 24/03/2012 22:28

always - I think we've more or less said the same thing. So either one of us is the sock puppet of the other (it's Saturday night, anything is possible!) or we still hold out some hope that this might be an acute, rather than chronic, case of fuckwittage.

pictish · 24/03/2012 22:30

So am I .

Rhinosaurus · 24/03/2012 22:33

we still hold out some hope that this might be an acute, rather than chronic, case of fuckwittage.

Nope. He is just a twat.

KarmaK · 24/03/2012 22:35

So has he never even dated anyone in the 4 years you've known him?

alwayshappytolisten · 24/03/2012 22:35

tribpot it's Saturday night and wine-o-clock :) but I agree, we're on the same page on this.

hatesponge · 24/03/2012 22:37

I was involved with a 44 year old man when I was 24. It was a totally inappropriate relationship (I thought we were madly in love at the time, with hindsight it makes me feel slightly queasy). Mine was a young 44 - but he was still 44, and the gap between 20s and 40s is massive.

I do think with age comes responsibility etc, the guy I dated treated me pretty badly (one of the highlights - breaking up with me in our lunch hour and when I got upset about it saying I was childish and not mature enough for him Hmm)

I think tbh this guy should have behaved better. At 44 I'm sorry but he is a bit old for playing the 'I'm embarrassed/need my space' card, and needs to man up a bit.

I suspect he may well come crawling back to you. However, my worry would be this is not the first time he's trotted out the soulmate, best sex he's ever had bit either. He seems like a bit of a player and as such not a good bet, certainly not for anything where your emotions are involved.

hatesponge · 24/03/2012 22:38

Rhinosaurus has said in 5 words what I struggled to sum up in 4 paragraphs Grin

MorrisZapp · 24/03/2012 22:48

Hellymelly, they haven't just had a first date. They have been close friends for four years, and now he says he loves her and they are soulmates.

I'm all for playing the game after a first, second, third date. But going to ground after a revelatory night of intimacy... very different thing.

chocolateyclur · 24/03/2012 22:50

Gah, what a prat. I'm sorry op.

MorrisZapp · 24/03/2012 22:51

But, I'm heartened to see women coming up with convoluted and highly improbable explanations as to why he hasn't called. It's a loving thing to do, my best friend used to do it for me, all the time.

Girls are ace.

JarethTheGoblinKing · 24/03/2012 22:55

Oh my god... have you actually spoken to him?

hellymelly · 24/03/2012 22:56

I know they haven't had a first date, just wanted to illustrate that ime men do think differently about time when it comes to contacting someone after dates/sex/whatever. All the women I know expect a call the next day and all the men I've ever asked think calling days later is fine. He may want to give her time to think about it, who knows? Not worth getting angry about yet.

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