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is this a child protectuon issue - wwyd??

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mebythesea · 22/03/2012 19:52

Right not sure where to post this but usually get very sound advice from you guys so ...

Walking dd's home from school a few days ago and walked past a car belonging to a local couple who live near us. as we went by a great cloud of skunk smoke came billowing out of the car. I looked in the car and there was a baby in a carseat in the back and a toddler. Felt really sickened by this.
This family are quite rough, they live in a council house with an old man one of their their grandads maybe and lots of other people. I can never quite make out who lives there as seem to be so many different people using the house. Im pretty sure they are known to social services.
But im just now worried about these poor children being exposed to such a strong drug.

Would i be wrong to talk to the social services about my worries? Feel bad 'dobbing' them in but imo its very wrong. So what do you think?

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squeakytoy · 24/03/2012 12:31

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TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 12:32

Where did I say I was stoned? Is being intoxicated the goal of a medi user?

Don't force words upon me that I didn't type.

squeakytoy · 24/03/2012 12:34

Oh, ok, you were eating hashcakes purely for the taste... righto then...

As you were...

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 12:35

I think you'll find you actually assumed I was stoned.

I didn't answer to that the first time, you stated again.

Say its an insult if you aren't agreed with, pathetic manipulative tactic don't you think?

It's nothing to me. I still know you are wrong, and one day you will too.

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 12:38

So is cannabis damaging and dangerous then?Hmm

Are people wrong to save their relatives lives with it?
even though its proven to work, less damaging than asprin and low cost to environment and individuals, You are saying that its wrong.

Am I correct in thinking that this is your opinion?

Birdsgottafly · 24/03/2012 12:47

Squeaky- terminal is quick to tell everyone that they know nothing.

I've been close friends with CP social workers for years, and I'm afraid that none of them would be remotely concerned about parents smoking weed UNLESS there were other significant factors involved

If the drug use was whilst the child is in the car or house, then it does flag up, the SW's are not following guidelines, if they are choosing to ingnore this.
Don't quote SW's who are not doing their job properly.

Terminal- most doing them are starting to early and at to greater quantity,

You don't know where i live, yet you think that you can dispute that.

That is what is happening in my region, on most deprived estates, those (mainly lads) are smoking weed from around 12 and the dealers are happy to sell it to them.

It is cheaper and easier to get than alcohol, this is the problem. Why you are dissmissing everything that is being said and insulting others when they are not insulting you, is a mystery, tbh.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/03/2012 13:02

@terminal. You misunderstood me. I have no issue with smoking cannabis, or taking any other drug as long as you are capable of informed consent.

These children in the car were not in a position to give consent. The secondary inhalation of the cannabis smoke would have undoubtedly affected them. This is not right.

Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 13:07

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Rosa · 24/03/2012 13:24

Its against the law and until the law changes its wrong and IMO should be reported. I would report a thief if I saw one.....

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 13:57

Homosexuality used to be against the law, so your point is?

Endocannabinoids are needed by human beings. Deficiency in these causes actual harm to humans, see this

What are the effects of endocannabinoids? are they damaging to children?
find the answer for yourself. Plenty of links and info have been provided on this thread, if you don't want to read them that says a lot.

Comparing users of a plant to thieves is laughable, absolutely absurd, and one of the silliest things I have seen on these boards, and I have seen some belters. Biscuit

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 14:03

Childdren aren't able to consent to eff all tbh, until they are adult its down to parents to decide, sometimes they are wrong and other times they are right, so It is important to be aware of facts, to be able to dispel unhelpful myths in order to do the right thing.

Plenty more things in life are more damaging to children than cannabis, which isn't damaging at all, to anyone, as there is no lethal dose, no fatalities ever, I could go on forever.

Sadly there is a never ending pool of dense people that think they know, when actually they don't but they will defend their bs for some unknown reason rather than accepting the truth.

More truth on cannabis and mh issues from our saviours, GW Pharma here.

squeakytoy · 24/03/2012 14:28

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Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 14:55

So campaign to change the law as generations of homosexuals did. But don't break it and force it upon your children through passive smoking or breast milk. Yes, you can find scientific evidence that it is not harmful on the web. I can find scientific evidence on the web that aliens are living amongst us but it doesn't make it true.

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 15:25

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TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 15:30

Yes, you can find scientific evidence that it is not harmful on the web. I can find scientific evidence on the web that aliens are living amongst us but it doesn't make it true.

Go on then, find scientific evidence that alien lifeforms exist.

Not inclusive of the bacterium they found on Venus recently, as I am already aware of this, and organic matter that has also been found there

Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 15:32

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Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 15:45

Isn't google marvellous.

TerminalUniqueness · 24/03/2012 15:46

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Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 15:53

At least, Terminal, you have the choice of giving up or seeking help. The children exposed to this have no choice at all.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 24/03/2012 16:03

ECHR
Art 8.
Is NOT an absolute right.

I am not sure why it is relevant to this thread.
It certainly wouldnt apply to the right to smoke an ilegal substance in private without anyone dobbing you in.

How can smoking skunk in an enclosed space with a young child be ok ffs?
Wrong is fucking wrong and exposing a child to an intoxicating substance is wrong.

Roseformeplease · 24/03/2012 17:12

Agreed.

mebythesea · 24/03/2012 20:56

Woah there this threads gone crazy!
Op here.
For my tuppnce worth im gona say that as an ex occasional weed smoker, not smoked for 8 yrs, i can say i do know the difference between normal unadulterated weed and skunk. Skunk being much stronger, buzzier and more 'trippy'.
I do think it is very wrong and selfish to inflict passive intake of any drug be it alchol, ciggarette, weed, crack what ever onto other people be it by passive smoking or through breastfeeding etc. There is much evidence of the damage caused.
Also i do think cannabs has its rightful place to be used medically for pain relief etc, though i doubt any medic would reccomend smoking it. More likley injest it through oil or vapouriser.
as smoking is just plain bad for you however you look at it.
And no one would expect to inflict their other strong medicines on children would they... Or i hope they wouldnt...

And for your info the said family in question, were in the park earlier and parents sparked up a joint infront of all kids present including mine, so i feel i will def report them as they clearly dont give a shit what anyone thinks.

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Rosa · 25/03/2012 07:45

Terminal homosexuality WAS against the law .... Now it is not. Cannabis is still against the law until the law is changed . How I personally feel is irrelevant the law is the law.
And Biscuit to you for comparing homosexuality to cannabis.... Have a lovely Sunday .

Roseformeplease · 25/03/2012 13:13

Well done, report them.

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