is this a child protectuon issue - wwyd??

[mebythesea]

Right not sure where to post this but usually get very sound advice from you guys so ...

Walking dd's home from school a few days ago and walked past a car belonging to a local couple who live near us. as we went by a great cloud of skunk smoke came billowing out of the car. I looked in the car and there was a baby in a carseat in the back and a toddler. Felt really sickened by this.
This family are quite rough, they live in a council house with an old man one of their their grandads maybe and lots of other people. I can never quite make out who lives there as seem to be so many different people using the house. Im pretty sure they are known to social services.
But im just now worried about these poor children being exposed to such a strong drug.

Would i be wrong to talk to the social services about my worries? Feel bad 'dobbing' them in but imo its very wrong. So what do you think?

LapsedPacifist

I do worry about what is going to happen in twenty or so years should it be found that cognitive/degenerative brain changes are linked to MDMA/Skunk with resulting mood disorders/thought disorders/degenerative brain disease.

They'll need to build giant therapeutic communities for all the old potheads.....

The "old potheads" will be fine - they will be tending their organic allotments and their beehives.

The "therapeutic communities" will be for the younger generation.

"Bloody Designer Drugs? In our day we had mek our OWN fun - we had to grow us own drugs in back yard....."

Sorry OP! Posted quite hastily at 21.32! You should also inform your local school and neighbourhood watch!

Cannabis is used as a pain killer for usually terminal or very seriously painful cancer.

It does not treat it and its use says nothing about safety.

Tbh, I worry a bit about parents who need weed or who need a drink at the end if the day, virtually every day. It's the ugly addiction monster raising its head, even if you deny it.

I'd be very worried about a child exposed to cannabis smoke inside a car or even a house. It could be argued that it's safe for adults, but babies brains are still developing.

How did this become a debate about the myths and fact of cannabis and legalisation?

Surely it's legal to drink, but you wouldn't be happy to see drunk parents driving a car with a baby and a child.
So why is it ok for someone who is high on drugs to be in charge of a baby and a child?

Smoke weed / get drunk if you want, but do it in your spare time.

Sorry if this point has been made already.

Before I get flamed I do think it's ok to have a drink in the presence of your children, but not get drunk.

I haven't smoked weed since I was a teenager, remember the feeling of being stoned and would worry about anyone being stoned while looking after small children.

And surely smoking weed makes you stoned, and therefore not as present of mind as you should be while in charge of a baby?

Surely the issue here is consent? Fine if consenting adults want to have a smoke/drink/whatever.

What is not ok is to force mood altering substances on children.

Passive inhalation of the fumes of modern day cannabis by minors who cannot control there own exposure is plain wrong.

I would contact SS.

There is a massive difference between a joint in the conservatory when the kids are in bed and smoking it in the same room as them.

I've seen a stoned cat in my teens and that was v cruel, the thought of a child being in a confinded space with skunk fumes makes me feel very sad.

Imperial it's because people who are into drugs as a lifestyle, have many problems and housing is one of them...they rely on certain people for a sofa to sleep on....

Passive inhalation? See previous points made about pollution.

Have you got any actual independent scientific evidence to back up what you say?

Links have been provided, It's obviously not in some of your best interests to be corrected.

Well it seems obvious that have no personal knowledge or experience on the subject seeing as the only references you gave to prove your point were just other forms of mindless prohibition propaganda. True knowledge comes from Experience and seeing as you have none than anyone can come to the conclusion that you yourself couldn't possibly have an opinion that's worth any kind of .

cannabis works IDENTICALY to all mainstream antidepressants. it lowers AEA in exactly the same way cipralex does it creates the extra CB receptors that prozac does.

the most harmfull thing in the sence of mental health is always looking over your sholder for the law.
In 2 years time GW pharmacuticals release a whole cannabis extract for mental health..

I have mental health issues that have haunted me since I was 11 I have been through all the so called medication that the doctor has to offer learnt about how it works how it harms and now use cannabis for my mental health.

If you give prozac to a young person to help with depression and mental anxiaty they stand a 1 in 200 chance of commiting suicide. Cannabis for the same young person will have no side effects and plenty of CBT will bring thier issues undercontrol. If you give cipralex or citalopram to a young person you are damageing many of thier reproductive systems in the brain. Post SSRi Sexual dissorder is irreversable even when the antidepressants are stoped. If you want to talk about the bad effects of cannabis and mental health then at least understand all the issues. Since the upgrade to class B there has been a 10 fold increase in mental helth issues from synthetic cannabis like spice and the legal highs that have all but replaced cannabis for many young people.

@terminal, so you are saying it is ok to adminster mainstream antidepressants to a minor without consent?

Sorry, I'll try that again.
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I have a feeling some people on this thread are posting while stoned.

I do find it amusing to read drug users trying to justify their habits by quoting rather dubious research and "facts".

I have friends who regularly smoke dope, they cant function without a joint for breakfast, and spend their day on a level of "high". To them it is their normal life, they do not feel under the influence because to them it is normality.

What they dont realise is how bloody boring they are most of the time, talking bollocks, and convincing themselves that they are somehow highly intellectual people who waffle on about conspiracy theories and how they know more than anyone else.

I smoked cannabis on and off for years, of all types. I havent touched any drugs now for almost ten years, but I was certainly no angel from my teens to my mid 30's. I know how it affected me while using, I know how it affected me for quite a while after stopping too.

I see people wasting their lives due to drug use, and I have seen all sides of the drug market, from dealers who I knew well, to the users who are under a delusion that they are not doing any harm to their bodies.

Compare it to painkillers.. fine. If you took painkillers regularly for years, you would be damaging your body.

Cas Hydes parents went against doctors to do what they did, saving their sons life not once, but twice. Plenty more cases like this exist.

Put that in your pipes and smoke it.

But that child was not smoking spliffs.. he was given a controlled amount of cannabis OIL.

GW Pharma

Trying to bf, likk and type in sucession is a trifle too much multitasking for me

You just prove my point so perfectly Terminal.

I shall add rude to the list of attributes too. :)

I also find it rather disturbing that a drug user is breastfeeding.

A drug user!!!! Classic.

Terminal is that enough personal attacks on Squeaky for now?
I feel I've wondered into the Twilight Zone on this thread. Of course it is unacceptable to smoke drugs in an enclosed space with your young children present.