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DH's "daughter" from brief fling appears on doorstep 29 years later

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gusting · 01/03/2012 12:34

My DH, who is 55 now, had a fling with a girl when he was in his 20s. It was very brief, and after it ended she said she was pregnant. Some time later my DH remembers someone coming to his parents house asking for child support for the child, but he had never seen the girl again or heard from her, and so was not prepared to entertain any suggestion of paying child support.

Anyway, last year, my DH received an email (he has a website , so that will be how she tracked him down) from a woman claiming to be my DH's daughter, and asking him to get in touch.

My DH, who is computer illiterate anyway (I deal with all his emails!) was fairly flabbergasted, to say the least, and his reaction was simply to ignore the email. He said he would think about how to respond, but basically in true male fashion filed it to the back of his head. His dad was very ill at the time and has subsequently died, so he had plenty else to think about to be honest, and we have a 2 year old DS (I am 39, by the way!).

Anyway, last night we had people round, and the doorbell rang. I was on the phone so my DH went to answer the door. I recognised the woman straight away as I had looked her up on facebook! It was this "daughter", who introduced herself. My DH was completely dumbstruck- apart from the fact we had people in the house, which was a godsend, or he would have had to ask her in, my DH is completely inept in difficult situations like that.

He told her that it was not a good time, and she asked if she could have 20 minutes of his time to "talk" to her, sometime before she left the area (she was here on holiday) tomorrow evening. He took her number, but because he was so taken aback by the whole scenario, he failed to save it in his phone.

He and I discussed things later, and he is very reluctant to speak to her. He does not want to have a relationship with her (assuming that she is indeed his daughter, which is a strong possibility as she looks a bit like him) and just wants to bury his head. He is annoyed that she just appeared at the house without warning. He says he feels nothing towards her, so doesn't think it appropiate to risk unsettling us all and causing his family possible upset by dragging up the past now.

I do see where he is coming from, and my primary goal is to protect my nice happy family unit from any upset, of course. But part of me thinks that the right thing to do by her would be for him to at least talk to her. After all, it's not her fault she was the result of a quick fling, and she has a right to find out about her dad (if he is her dad) and to get to know him. I keep thinking how curious I would be in her situation and how upset I would be if my dad refused to have anything to do with me.

I know I can convince him to talk to her if I really try- he says he will do it for me, if I want him to. But it could turn out to be a whole can of worms opened, and the effect on our family could be very negative.

Anyone got any views??

OP posts:
cestlavielife · 01/03/2012 12:39

tell him to stop ebing a twat andtalk to his dd they both grown ups now.
get to know he a little and set clear boundaies initially for contact.

she could be very positive for you - you wont know until he taken trouble to get to know her a little.

bu set clear boundaies eg they could meet for coffee in public place for on hour initially etc

QuintessentialyHollow · 01/03/2012 12:42

Your husband must be a very weak man, he was there, had the fling, was as responsible for protection as the woman, he knows she got pregnant, refused to pay child support, and is ignoring a woman, his daughter (possibly) who just wants to talk to the person who gave her his dna and life.

He should stop being such a twat and own up to his responsibility.

empirestateofmind · 01/03/2012 12:42

I keep thinking how curious I would be in her situation and how upset I would be if my dad refused to have anything to do with me.

I too would be devastated if my father refused to speak to me. Of course he should meet her and answer her questions. The poor woman deserves this at least.

CuriousMama · 01/03/2012 12:44

Oh how sad for her Sad What other reason would she have of contacting him than being his dd? What an awful situation.

She may have dcs? Or do you already know things about her? I hope he comes round. I doubt it'd be negative, what makes you think that? Is he a moody type?

schobe · 01/03/2012 12:45

I can understand he's shocked but this is a whole entire human being he seems to be finding so easy to just dismiss.

Surely he should have investigated a bit further when somebody turned up asking for child support. Surely he can see that for her just to turn up, this must be a big deal for her - her whole life, identity, feelings about herself and her roots.

But it's ok because he feels nothing for her?

PogueMahone · 01/03/2012 12:45

Poor woman. I feel so sorry for her and her mother. Your DH has behaved appallingly. He has had numerous opportunities to take responsibility:

  1. when the mother told him she was pregnant
  2. when the mother asked for child support
  3. when his daughter emailed him
  4. when his daughter came to see him

Could you imagine if he'd done the same to you and your DS? My god what a brave thing for that woman to do to turn up at his door and he 'loses' the number? You have her email address/facebook, he should get in touch with her and at least pay her the courtesy of meeting her.

Swimminglikeaduck · 01/03/2012 12:47

To be honest, Im thinking of that poor girl, how she must have psyced herself up for that meeting, how she feels rebuffed all over again. Your DH just needs to tell her his story honestly and gently. Who knows how he'll feel later on, maybe he will want to get to know her, maybe not. maybe she'll listen to what he has to say and not want to see him again.
He ows her big time to be honest and Id think little of him as his wife if he couldnt do the decent thing.
I cant see how you need to protect your own family. This woman is not a threat to you or your 2 year old. Youve all nothing to lose and potentially lots to gain.
Please get him to see her.

Mumsyblouse · 01/03/2012 12:49

I think your nice happy family set-up is already shaken, because you can see how your husband would act towards one of his own children. This would profoundly disturb me, as his wife and mother of another child.

I do understand this was in the past, and he may feel threatened and worried about how this will play out with you. But this girl was once a two year old, like your two year old. To treat her quite so callously and show so little interest in her is quite worrying.

If he is looking to you to provide reassurance that you will support him in meeting her, I would do that. If you don't I think it will play on your mind anyway and will disturb your view of your husband. I think you should be honest about this and say if he doesn't acknowledge her, or have any interest in meeting her, that makes you feel differently about him and not in a good way.

He may be just terrified of her judgement and want to bury his head in the sand, but that's not possible anymore, even if he never sees her again he knows and you know she's out there. Better deal with it even if isn't a happy ever after ending.

lynniep · 01/03/2012 12:50

Poor woman. She's been very dignified in the way she instigated contact. The very least he can do after his previous behaviour is give her the 20 minutes she asked for. Its too late to worry about worm cans. She has existed for a very long time. She's not going to magically disappear now.

pictish · 01/03/2012 12:52

What an immature man your dh is! If I were you, I would be appalled at his behaviour towards his daughter!

Seriously, I couldn't have any respect for a man who treated his own flesh and blood so dismissively. None of it is his daughter's fault, and he's regarding her like some sort of fly in his ointment. How unattractive.

If it were me, I'd be telling him to man up, sharpish.

mummakaz · 01/03/2012 12:52

This may sound harsh but your husband is a dick.....first off for not paying child support, then ignoring her email and then turning her away and not ringing her back. She must feel like a bag of shit right now. Whether he/you likes it or not that's his daughter and she deserves to know who he is.

schobe · 01/03/2012 12:53

The more I think about this, the more obvious it is that your DH probably knew damn well he had a child (or an alleged one at least).

The mother turns up asking for child support but he never heard from her again. There's a stage missing there - what was said to her? If she was told no, then it's hardly surprising he never heard from her again.

She told him she was pregnant, she gave him a chance to be involved with his child. She probably then decided it was up to him. She just got on with it and perhaps realised that it was his loss if he chose to just ignore it had happened.

In your shoes, I think I'd be quite upset that I didn't know my partner as well as I'd thought.

GinPalace · 01/03/2012 12:54

agree with mumsyblouse

I would struggle to respect him if he couldn't even muster up 20 minutes for her, blimey you could rustle that up for almost anyone!

She doesn't sound unreasonable.

Get him to talk to her. It's not a big ask really. She can't rock your family any more than you let her, so just tread gently.

DreamingofSummer · 01/03/2012 12:55

Tell him to stop being an arse and talk to her

Notinmykitchen · 01/03/2012 12:56

I will not repeat what everyone else has already said, but this woman is your child's sister. Does he not deserve to have the chance to get to know her?

NarkedPuffin · 01/03/2012 12:57

it ended when she said she was pregnant
(he) was not prepared to entertain any suggestion of paying child support
his reaction was simply to ignore the email
He told her that it was not a good time
he failed to save (her number) in his phone.
He does not want to have a relationship with her

Wow. What a catch.

badtasteflump · 01/03/2012 12:58

My problem with this is that from your post it is clear that he always knew he had a daughter, right from before she was born. So surely on some level he must have expected this to happen one day?

IMO he needs to talk to her; even just to explain that he doesn't want to take this any further. Surely she deserves 30 minutes out of his lfe?

IAmBooyhoo · 01/03/2012 12:58

firstly, she didn't turn up without warning. she emailed him previously and he didn't reply so no doubt she thought she wouldn't get a response if she did it again. turning up on the doorstep was the only thing she could do if she wanted to see her FATHER.

secondly, sounds like she wont gain much from having a relationship with such a spineless individual.

probably a bit harsh but he has known for 29 years that he has had a child and he has run from the responsibility each time he was reminded of it.

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OhChristFENTON · 01/03/2012 12:59

She wants to know him, or at least to talk to him, so in my view he absolutely has to give her his time, of course he does.

She is an adult and sounds like she will behave like one from the way she has conducted herself so far, so he should realise that acknowledging her isnt going to devastate or upset his family. Why would it? And what about her life and her feelings?

I would be seriously disappointed in DH if he had dealt with this situation that way.

CuriousMama · 01/03/2012 13:00

Agree with the posts above, I'd be very concerned if my OH acted this way. What sort of example is he setting for your dc?

Shakey1500 · 01/03/2012 13:00

How awful for this poor woman. I cannot believe your DH has acted in such an appalling manner.

"Having people round was a Godsend as otherwise he would HAVE HAD to have asked her in" (or words to that affect). How utterly shameful. Do you realise how AWFUL that sounds? That woman had plucked up the courage to knock at your door, probably took every ounce of everything she had and he turned her away? Didn't even ask her in? Who were these people you had round? The Queen? If it was friends I'd have asked them to leave politely citing family emergency/whatever and asked her in.

I feel really sorry for her. He needs to bloody grow a pair and act responsibly, like any normal adult would. Fucks sake.

IAmBooyhoo · 01/03/2012 13:01

and actually how the fuck is it ok to tell a child you abandoned 29 years ago and have ignored ever since that "sorry you cant come in after searching for and locating me because i have friends in"? fuck that. tell them something has come up that you have to deal with straight away and that you have to cut the evening short.

TheCrunchUnderfoot · 01/03/2012 13:01

God, how can you respect this man?

That poor girl.

AgathaFusty · 01/03/2012 13:02

What an unkind, unfeeling 'man' your husband is. How dare he be "annoyed that she just appeared at the house without warning". She tried to make contact via email and was ignored, what else was she supposed to do? I can understand he, and you, must be shocked, but really, how can he not give her 20 minutes?