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advice wanted please from those whose DH has had an affair

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winteragony · 15/02/2012 15:13

I'd like to ask for help and advice from those of you who've been betrayed in the past and come out the other side, one way or the other. I don't want to go into details about my DH's affair and the decision I eventually need to make...what I really want to do is understand myself right now.

It's only been 6 weeks since DH told me about it so I know it's early days, but I just wanted to know if the decision that any of you came to regarding staying with him or kicking him out was one that was there deep down from the beginning, or did it take time to form?

My counsellor tells me to expect my feelings to be like a pendulum and to not make any hasty decisions but to give it plenty of time. I understand that, but I also feel in a kind of limbo at the moment. Also wonder if it might be giving me/him/DCs false hope. My instant reaction, perhaps surprisingly to some, was to work through it...he's full of remorse, desperately sorry and vows to change. He's left his job, severed ties with OW and started counselling himself, so I don't doubt his sincerity to make things work.

However, over the weeks I'm feeling his presence to be oppressive. Because he's not working he's around all the time (I work from home), and I feel such a release when I leave the house to go and do something. Then when I return I actually become nervous of the whole situation, shake and feel sick. Every little thing he does annoys me, silly habits that I previously had put up with. At some of these times I've told him to go away for a time to give me space and I really enjoy the first day or so after that when I feel happier, relieved and confident. But after a couple of days I want to see him again and think that I want to work it out with him so he comes back and the cycle starts again. Maybe if he was gone for good this would stop. The DCs are too upset by these comings and goings though, so he's now around full time to keep things more stable for them. We've been very careful about not arguing in front of them, although the eldest (7) is aware something's not right.

In between these ups and downs I actually feel nothing, just numb, and I find myself resorting to extreme measures to feel something, anything...almost to prove it to myself, or to get him to show his feelings. One snowy night I wandered off with no coat, walking as fast as I could...partly to escape the oppression, partly, I think, to see what he would do...of course he came looking. Another time when I was alone in the house and the DCs were with grandparents, I locked him out and wouldn't answer the phone when he rang. I went on like that for about 20 minutes telling myself if he would actually leave a message on the answerphone I would open the door. Eventually he did just that so I let him in, but I think I wanted to let him show how much he cared and how far he'd go. Also wanted to frighten him, which I succeeded in doing.

Not quite sure why I'm rambling so much, perhaps I hope some of you will have behaved like this and can give me some idea of how I can gain control of myself or when I can know which feeling is the right course of action. How can I go from hatred to indifference to 'maybe we can do it' in a few hours? And how can I block out images of the 2 of them together? Just when I've had an alright day, I watch TV and something will remind me of it all over again, or he'll put his arm around me and I'll only visualise it with her. I've even though of hypnosis! Please help, I'm quite strong usually, but not right now.

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fiventhree · 16/02/2012 16:39

Winteragony, I do think that it is interesting that it relates to feelings re work for many men.

My h was utterly faithful for at least 15 years. He started internet sex chatting when he was having a hard time at work, and then he went self employed, where he said he stopped it. But each time work got stressful, or he had less work than he thought he needed, he started again, and stopped when he got busier.

Finally he started again regardless because, although I didnt actually know, I was so pissed off with him that our relationship went downhill, and from then on it was constant, apparently.

God knows what that is about, for men. Perhaps there is some kind of masculinity challenge they feel under, or for some a combination of stress and home relationship. I do see that for some, eg Madabout, it can happen regardless.

winteragony · 16/02/2012 16:46

Yes, it's all about being the provider isn't it? Even these days it's still usually the man who goes out to work and brings in the dough. We have a big mortgage on our house and I'm sure DH felt obliged to work for the money even if he didn't enjoy his job. Doing what he did with her became just another part of 'the work persona' (his words)...after a one-night stand he was emotionally blackmailed by her.

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winteragony · 16/02/2012 16:48

I meant, of course, even these days when there are young kids involved and someone stays at home with them! Before they came along I matched him rung for rung on the career ladder.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 16/02/2012 17:00

fivethree - yes, this illustrates why its important for the betrayer to explore their own issues, weaknesses and vulnerabilities in order to understand why they had an affair.

MadAboutHotChoc · 16/02/2012 17:04

And yes, PTSD is very common and many betrayed spouses have ended up on ADs Sad it really fucks your mind up.

OMG - you must be worried about your H's health issues Sad not what you need on top of everything.

winteragony · 16/02/2012 17:08

Omg is he actually seeing a psych? Mine is seeing a counsellor but I and my inlaws wonder about a Psych. Can your GP refer you to one? Feels like there are things to explore that need to go much deeper than a counsellor can go....issues with emotional immaturity, fear and avoidance of conflict, desire to please everybody and the ease with which he was made by her to feel that he owed her affection or she would self harm and ruin lives.

He felt so guilty about that and his messed-up head actually believed it that he said he felt he needed to suffer his own guilt to compensate. When he first told me that I went off on one, thinking I'd married a masochist on top of everything else, but we talked it through and now I know he didn't mean that he enjoyed the emotional pain.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 16/02/2012 17:14

QUite often the addiction to the OW is based on the flattering ego boosting attention they receive rather than the sex and that would explain why your H had the affair despite getting little sexual satisfaction.

MadAboutHotChoc · 16/02/2012 17:15

from the OW I mean.

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winteragony · 16/02/2012 17:17

I'm so sorry to hear about your problems, Omg.

I feel very similar in that I wish it was more a 'typical' affair so I could understand why. He has always had a lowish sex drive, if a gorgeous naked girl offered him a pile of rare sci-fi comics he'd be more interested in the comics. So I really mean what I say when I thought he'd be the last man on earth to do this. But of course, he was pursued, he was not the pursuer...although I know it takes 2 to tango.

He also said that he got very little sexual satisfaction from it, that he did just enough with her to keep her quiet or to keep a reasonable working atmosphere...if he turned her down too often she would threaten exposure, would burn herself again and make work a nightmare.

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winteragony · 16/02/2012 17:22

Oh bloody hell, the unprotected thing. Did you have the STD check? I've just been through the humiliation of that but all clear thank God. Just have to hope now that she's not going to turn up with his child. Oh, but of course, she said she's on the pill...why wouldn't you believe her when she says that, such a truthful, lovely lady with high morals who wouldn't dream of getting involved with a man she knows is married with a pregnant wife and a little daughter.Angry

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budgieshell · 16/02/2012 17:54

Can you believe any explanation given by a man that cheats. Every thing they have done during the affair is based on lies, so the explanation of why they did it is also going to be a lie. In the end does it matter who chased who, how it all happened, the fact is he couldn't keep it in his pants.
My ex SAID he was chased and she would not leave him alone. Like a lot of women I thought I could get over it and move on, not knowing they where still seeing each other. Even at the end when I had tried to save our marriage he could not choose between us. That was when I made the choice for him. I have no regrets because I know I tried really hard to fix things and didn't just walk away. I now have a different life and wonder whould I have been able to forgive and move on. All of you out there who have forgiven can you ever trust him again?

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winteragony · 16/02/2012 18:07

Ditto with me, don't think I can ever forgive, will certainly never forget.

Things not quite as raw as they were though, so I know that time will help.

Trying to focus on starting a new relationship with him and not trying to get back to how things were as I know that's not possible.

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fiventhree · 16/02/2012 18:12

Mine will be getting a second chance but I know he wont get a third.

Interesting- my h doesnt have a history of self harm, but in fact he did selfharm by cutting an arm in a hotel 2 years ago, which freaked me out. Workaholism, eter high self confidence, and well hidden low self esteem due to his father buggering off and abandoning him (but not his sister), and his sister physically assaulting him very badly until he called the samaritans aged 14. He had told me all this, but suppressed his feelings about it.

I dont have a face to face OW to consider- but there were a heap of young women for net sex- just ordinary women, not via porn, and many of them really young, 18-25. I feel really angry about that, actually, it seems disgusting and abusive to me, it is in fact, when he is 50. Our own daughter is 24, and seems so naive in some ways.

He also says it was not about sex, but about power and control- that he could chat them up and get them to do it.

I couldnt even imagine wanting to do such a thing at their age with an older man- he didnt even hide his name or age, I saw the proof of that.

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fiventhree · 16/02/2012 18:14

exterior, not eter. Bloody keyboard!

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