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Marriage in trouble - think its my fault

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GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 18:04

Name changer and v long (sorry). DH started a business a few months ago. He was suspended from work and decided to set up himself. He had talked about this previously, but it kind of felt like he didn't have any other options when suspended so went ahead. I am a carer/SAHM.

Thing is he is working or on call 24/7 and has been since it started. It is really taking its toll on our relationship and family life. He told me initially that he wouldn't be available for anything family wise and that we would have to work around his work. This was ok at first, however, we have two small children, one of whom has some medical issues. I do everything around the house, and childcare, as I did this while he was working F/T and I didn't mind. Plus, he would do things such as make dinner at the weekend when he was off.

However, now he never helps. He goes out each day from 9-5 and is often out in the evenings and at weekends. However he will work like this whether he is busy or not. He will literally have no work but be gone all day. It's not that I'm not supportive, I am as I want his business to do well, but I feel that he could help but he would choose to work (he admits this too) he adores his business and would happily spend as much time on it as he could. While I understand the need for the crazy work hours I am feeling really deflated about it all. He has stuck to his no commitment to family thing. Such as when one of our children was in hospital I needed him to look after the other child. He refused as he was on call. I had to get my mum to do it. I also had some exams recently, three exams which were two hours each. I asked him months in advance if he could cover them and he agreed. However, the day before my exam he told me that he couldn't help, and again I had to find someone to step in.

It's the little things like this and he never shows any consideration for the family, he will go out, in the day or the evening and not bother telling me where he's going, go out of contact but when he's ready to be home he will want to know where I am and what I've been doing.

It doesn't help that I am struggling being at home. It can't be avoided but my Mental health is taking a bit of a battering being at home and the longevity of it all, I would love some support and/or a chance to get away from it all. I did look into part time work but it didn't come to fruition due to lack of childcare and our child's medical issues. But I feel so bloody depressed, and am sick of it all.

Whenever we try to talk about it, he gets defensive and tells me that I'm being unsupportive, whereas, I'm not arguing for him to be at home all the time, or that I need him to do certain things, but some help, a little bit of the time would be nice. Or when I need him to commit to something (like taking one of the children, when the other is in hospital) I am not asking him to do these things all the time, they are once every now and again situations. But his business has to come first, and it does. He has already told me he's not prepared to get a job, and that he jeopardised his career for his last girlfriend and he's not going to do it again. Thing is, I'm not asking him to give it up, I'm just asking him to recognise that we exist. Feels like we're flatmates with separate lives - if we separated at least he'd have to commit to caring for the children a couple hours of the week right?

I just can't continue like this anymore, the child with medical issues is going back into hospital soon and I can just feel another argument about this will happen - and it may just be the end of the marriage. I am devastated about this but I don't know how to fix it. How much more support shall I give before I give up?

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averyembarrassingq · 29/01/2012 18:12

Grumbly, I don't think it's a matter of fault. I think there is a possibility that the burdon of being in charge of earning his own salary without the security of a company paying it out may have tipped your husband's balance out. And/or additionally, if he loves his work, who wouldn't want to spend all their time on their passion?

However, you are not asking him to babysit - they are his children so you have every expection to be supported whether for hospital visits or exams , or whatever the situation happens to be.

Personally, I don't think you are asking too much here and as it is effecting your emotional health, the balance needs to change.

Hope you can sort it.

motherinferior · 29/01/2012 18:15

I think he's behaving very badly, in all honesty.

LadyMedea · 29/01/2012 18:50

I'm a but confused that he's going it all day when he doesn't have any work on? What is he doing and why isn't he staying at home helping out when he's not working?

kodachrome · 29/01/2012 18:56

He's being unfair by expecting to offer you and the family no time or consideration. He has to give a little. It's not your fault.

Legobuildingpro · 29/01/2012 19:02

Sounds to me like the only work he is doing, is having an affair, distancing himself from the family and setting you up to fail.

GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 19:47

See I have argued that he should be more supportive and actually not work all the time, but it leads to arguments and we are going round in circles.

He will go to work to plan stuff and organise paperwork/advertising for the business. He does tend to go OTT with this type of stuff and he also has a partner, and he does all of his partners paperwork. If I say thats unfair on Him, he will argue back that its how they operate so I can't win.

He could be having an affair who knows? I'm not sure he is but I can't be certain and he would never admit it. I am just so tired of raising our family on my own.

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GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 19:50

Btw, I am surprised that no-one has yet said I'm in the wrong - DH has been quite adamant that it is me who needs to be more supportive to him, and he thinks that the arguing is my fault as I don't understand his POV.

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motherinferior · 29/01/2012 19:59

More supportive how, exactly? You're already doing everything. You mean you point out that you're doing everything - and other people are having to step in and do the parenting work he refuses to do? You did an exam? Your child went to hospital?

kodachrome · 29/01/2012 20:02

He obviously sees your relationship as a one-way street - all the support flows his way from you and he gives nothing back.

I don't understand why he thinks it's ok to opt out of family life completely and let you down stinking regarding your sick dc.

Does he want to be married and have a family life?

warthog · 29/01/2012 20:04

i think he's not being supportive. basically he suits himself all the time.

GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 20:08

Mother - I'm not supportive as I keep asking why he can't help me out and why he has to work so many hours. He says my annoyance at this is unsupportive to his business.

Koda - we have discussed separation several times. He gets annoyed and says I just want him to get a 9-5 job like people from the area I grew up in (I grew up in a place that isn't exactly great). He thinks I'm not supporting his aspirations to a better life.

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GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 20:11

Warthog - thank you

I am nearly in tears here - people can see what I'm getting at, whereas I've been trying to get used to just doing everything without him. I have some idea of what does happen in a new business, and while I do appreciate all the hard work he's putting in, I can't last like this, I feel so lonely.

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motherinferior · 29/01/2012 20:11

Well, what sort of a life are you having at the moment? Sounds a bit crap to me, from what you're saying. What sort of a life are your children having, with a parent who can't be arsed to look after them? What kind of support are your aims to get qualifications getting, with someone who won't even take over childcare so you can do an exam?

kodachrome · 29/01/2012 20:21

What about your aspirations? Confused

He's being very selfish.

GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 20:22

I think I could do it alone, I just didn't want to have to. I want him to show me that he wants to be part of this family. I just am not sure why he can't see what everyone else can?

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solidgoldbrass · 29/01/2012 20:23

Is he bringing in any money? Because he's not contributing anything else, is he? I appreciate you may not want to say what kind of business he runs, but is it one that's going to bring in money or is it something wanky that's more of a hobby?
Either way, it sounds absolutely miserable for you: living with a man who has basically told you that he is the one who matters and your job is to raise his children and be his servant and not complain. Does he expect to have sex on you as well?

kodachrome · 29/01/2012 20:24

You're already doing it alone. You might be better off emotionally if he wasn't around at all to display such indifference and selfishness.

SparkleSoiree · 29/01/2012 20:29

My husband has his own business and sometimes he is away for days at a time and twice last year for several weeks.

However it does not negate his responsibility to our children and marriage. I have a life too outside our life and we always make sure everything is covered childcare-wise together before we sign up to long stays away from home.

My agreement to supporting him in his business is based upon his agreement to support me in my training/career and not ignore his responsibilities as a parent. The day he stops fulfilling that agreement we will have a conversation and then different options will appear on the table. Wink

You are not a skivvy and he cannot remove himself from his parental responsibilities. Find your inner confidence and start pulling him to task on things. It is your life too and if the plan to date isn't working for you then have the conversation!

GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 20:30

SGB, it's complicated money wise, as he isn't taking a proper wage from the business as yet, and I am in receipt of Carers and DLA (due to the one DCs high medical need) so we tend to split bills. Me leaving would mean I go on full benefits (which scares me).

But it is a business that if it does well, can earn a fair bit of money. I'm not remotely interested in the monetary issue - I want him to support me before I have a breakdown (am not coping very well with stuff at the minute). That's why I'm not sure, I feel so low, and can't tell if I'm being rational or not.

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wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 29/01/2012 20:32

Has he not figured out that a divorce would be so much more expensive and less emotional that actually remembering that he has a family.

garlicfrother · 29/01/2012 20:32

It sounds like you both have mental health issues. Props to you for recognising your problems with depression, stress & isolation. Sadly he seems to be avoiding his own issues by burying himself in work - it's a classic, isn't it?

I haven't got any specific advice for you as I agree he's being selfish and unreasonable. I just wanted to add my voice: you are being far from unreasonable! You've held him up throughout this time, and he's bluntly refusing to acknowledge his responsibilities to you and his family. Please do find sensible people to talk to in real life. Your GP could be a start?

I'm half inclined to say "chuck him out, that might open his ears". But am not sure how well you'd cope with that amount of stress right now. You urgently need to build your own support; gather friends around you. I wish you luck.

joanofarchitrave · 29/01/2012 20:34

I think i would start by making a massive nuisance of myself when he doesn't let you know where he is/where he's going. I once read a book about couples who had managed to stay married long-term, and they were as one in agreeing that leaving the ROOM without saying where you were going was the number one thing to avoid. It is disrespectful and denies the existence of the other person. Teach him that he will get 50 calls an hour (calm calls asking him to let you know asap where he is and when he will be back) if he doesn't tell you, whereas if you know where he is, he doesn't.

AThingInYourLife · 29/01/2012 20:34

People who start businesses when they have children are still parents.

If they are competent they can make their business a success without opting out of family life.

I think the problem here is that this guy is a shit businessman and a shit Dad.

Also a shit husband and a pretty crap person.

You don't need his permission to end a marriage he has already left.

Charlotteperkins · 29/01/2012 20:34

I don't often say this but these problems are 100% NOT your fault.

Seriously, why are you still with him?

Single motherhood is MUCH better than this.

GrumblyGrump · 29/01/2012 20:39

Garlic - I have been avoiding my own issues for years Grin however, seriously, I am struggling on a daily basis. Housework is beginning to be such a grind and I am really resenting it, I am losing my temper all the time and constantly feel on the brink of tears. The DC with issues has gotten worse, and although I am top of it (barely) there are so many days where I think he would be better in care. I really don't want to speak to the GP but I don't see another way forward.

Joan - I am strong, or well at least I thought I was, I never back down when I think I have a point. Problem is DH has an opposing view and really doesn't see that he is doing anything wrong. He is genuinely adamant that he is doing the best for all of us. I am so used to getting let down by him now and having to make back up plans whenever I ask him to help. That isn't right in a marriage is it?

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