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WWYD?? DC2 being forbidden to make own choices by DF.

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joruth · 07/01/2012 12:04

Asked DH to leave 2.5 months ago after years of emotional and verbal occasionally physical abuse to me and 4 DCs (all primary school age). His controlling and angry behaviour escalated so have reduced contact to Saturdays only currently (informally with his consent). DCs love and hate him in equal measure.

Part of abuse to DCs has involved his angry outbursts and control around choices they make including (and especially) instruments that they are learning. Daughters have "managed him" but son has fewer skills in this way and is also picked on much more. In the end DS's first choice instrument got so involved in the shouting and his emotions that he has not been able to contemplate touching it even now that his father is out of the house.

DS has now voluntarily chosen a different instrument, one that his father does not play, through school and with the music teacher's approval and support. I have told him it is his choice and that we will support him but that he knows that he will have to practise regularly etc etc.

Mentioned this to DH before Christmas, he said "isn't a "proper" instrument" "very limiting" he thinks it's a bad choice...I left the discussion open.

Today (DC3's birthday) special pancake breakfast with Dh and GPs present before he takes them out for his regular contact. DCs talking about what they are doing and DC1 mentions the alternative instrument: cue fireworks for 40 minutes in front of GPs, me DCs and all. No holding back, lots of personal stuff and accusations about my character, wifely duties etc. He has forbidden DS to play the instrument and I am not to make decisions that are his to make. I did not (apparently) talk to him first and Dc IS NOT ALLOWED to give up his first instrument...never mind whether he is actually able to play it or not.

He is their parent, he has parental responsibility, BUT he is damaging them.....WWYD?????? I can't protect my darling children, I don't know what to do.

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izzywhizzyswinterwarmer · 13/01/2012 15:04

He's been arrested? Has he been charged with an offence or has he been arrested 'on suspicion of' committing an offence?

In either event, unless the offence is extremely serious, it's probable that he will be released on bail in the near future.

If his arrest came about because of dv the police should refer you to their domstic violence unit and a report of the incident will be sent to socal services.

Do you have a non-molestation or other restraining order/injunction in place? If not, now is the time to make sure that he cannot approach you or come anywhere near your home without legal penalty.

I hope you are getting the rl support you need to put measures into place that will secure your safety and that of your dc.

cestlavielife · 13/01/2012 15:05

arrest is good - gets stuff on record... hope you all ok

MidnightHag · 13/01/2012 21:35

Joruth- hope you're all ok, but that was a bit of a mysterious post! Arrested?

FabbyChic · 13/01/2012 21:41

OMG are you okay? Are you and the children safe?

joruth · 13/01/2012 22:53

Ok, things a bit calmer...now can explain...I was a bit Shock.....

Basically I phoned the police DV team to log the Sat 7th incident following discussion with Women's Aid. Was expecting "sounds bad but too late, phone 999 next time, we'll log it" but got late night police interview, (at least kept DCs out of the way, almost) and subsequent arrest on suspicion (I think) he denied all and made some counter claim of violence on my part [raised eyebrows emoticon].
He was let out with a warning to stay well clear of us 1 hour ago.

Now I don't know whether I am more scared or less scared than i was before. Have put bolts on doors, arranged to change locks on Monday (police say I can, lawyer says I can't as marital home)

No orders currently...actually i think I would like him to come and bang at the door...and then he can be carted off by police....

but I expect he is wise to that. He's a charmer when he wants to be...and has got out of sticky situations with the police before with his act.

Shame emotional and verbal abuse don't show up on your skin...the kids and I would be walking charge notices!!

I am in uncharted waters, don't really know what all of this means for us.

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MidnightHag · 14/01/2012 08:12

I hope things are calmer for you this morning. I have no advice to give, but am bumping this because I know there are lots of lovely MN people who do have great advice.
Stay strong! Although this is hard now, it's so much better for your DCs.

Eglu · 14/01/2012 09:42

You are so strong Joruth. Well done. Your children and you will benefit from this extra strength you have found.

Fluffycloudland77 · 14/01/2012 18:56

This sounds mean, but if the police give you the option of pressing charges, do it.

We didnt once with DHs ex and it looked bad in court, like we were making more of it and backed down because we knew it iyswim.

I always kept in mind they arrested her because she broke the law voluntarily.

cestlavielife · 14/01/2012 18:56

What do you (and dc) want to happen?
No. Contact for now?
Dc contact with gps supervising ?
Or ?
The report wil be passed on to ss tho this takes days so cal your ss contact on Monday morning and explain what has happened
Tell dc it is school as usual and no contact with dad for a week while you see what will be best way forward take some time to discuss best way forward maybe putting it on legal footing re divorce

joruth · 14/01/2012 22:00

Hi, turns out he was charged with "actual bodily harm" for historic (2009) event Shock!!

The future: Phone contact only for the present with DCs; none with me except by email if necessary. Solicitor on thursday. Don't think GPs can supervise as they had no positive effect last Sat.

discussed with SS and Women's Aid early last week.

Want the rest of our lives to start...but I guess we're going to be mired in legal debate for a while. just hope he goes against current form and is sensible

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joruth · 14/01/2012 22:00

PS couldn't press charges as he denied and no witnesses to the assault. Shame!

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NorksAreMessy · 14/01/2012 22:07

joruth wow!

I am in awe of how you are dealing with this.
You have the official MN balls/ovaries of steel award for this week

joruth · 14/01/2012 22:30

thanks...actually am a bona-fide coward!! But am sure that my DCs deserve better than this man. Fortunately whilst his behaviour gets worse it helps to keep me strong (except for the wobbly days!!)

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crunchbag · 14/01/2012 22:33

You should be proud of yourself joruth :)

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