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The Brave Babes Battle Bus - New Year, New Start And With A Firm Resolution In Their Hearts.

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Mouseface · 31/12/2011 12:12

Hello, I'm Mouse and I have an ever changing relationship with alcohol.

This is the Brave Babes Battle Bus, it's a support thread for those who feel their drinking habits are not what they should be, or even those of another.

Sober, drinking or somewhere in between, come take a seat. Smile

And for those who would like to know where this all started, HERE is a link to the threads before this one.

Make THIS year THE year that you change your life, for the better. Smile

Have a Happy New Year, full of memories to treasure, not to forget.

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MsGee · 11/01/2012 09:40

Hello brave folks, how're you all?

Mouse I am so sorry to hear that the docs have been useless in supporting you (although very pleased Nemo did enjoy his time with the carer).

Silver (( )) siblings are shit. you can't change them - just protect yourself lovely.

Sorry its been a while, I am still fighting the fight. Although I am drinking I am mainly winning at the moment, it all feels on an even keel and not a problem. I am working hard and trying to get fit and lose weight, which seem to be the best things to reduce alcohol intake for me. It seems easier to cut right back if I am focused on something positive to replace it (work, fitness kick!). Part of reason for working hard is I have decided this will be the year of the holiday for the Gee family. So word hard, have holidays is my motto.

All good - DD is lovely (still not sleeping and still bossing me about) and I am getting better at the getting a backbone with her. Only blight on the landscape is I am still struggling to cope with the baby stuff. Another friend just announced a pregnancy and I can't really deal with it, so having to step back from my (only) group of friends. But I don't really mind being a billy no mates Grin

Anyway, if its ok I'll pop on and off ... I miss you all but RL is keeping me busy at the moment!

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 11/01/2012 09:51

miss you too msgee Smile must be tough with all the pregnancies around - very hard. glad to hear you'll be popping on.

theala it needed out - maybe it's to do with what i was saying earlier about alcohol as an emotional painkiller and having to get used to not using it and also having all the squished emotion from drinking days still tucked in there. try and feel positive that you got some sadness out?

noteven - glad to hear you are getting lots of support. all the best.

obrigada · 11/01/2012 10:23

Honestly can't remember the last time I cried!

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 11/01/2012 10:27

i did a lot of crying over the last month with meds fallout and stuff that had been stuffed down coming up and out.

it's a very strange thing crying but we must need it or we wouldn't have the function. obrigada you need a good sad film to watch and safely weep at.

TheBossofMe · 11/01/2012 11:26

Lordy, I cry all the time over films, TV programmes etc. Blubbed like a baby watching CNN Heroes recently. I've even been known to cry watching X Factor. A great emotional release.

Mouse - you need to get tough with your GP. Stage a sit in. Write endless letters. Whatever it takes to get some effective pain management in place. You cannot go on like this.

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 11/01/2012 11:28

i balled my eyes out at the last harry potter.

HippoPottyMouth · 11/01/2012 11:34

Hello, another new person here, I've been lurking a while. Sorry, it's a bit like a gym here, isn't it. Loads of new people show up in January and get in the way of the regulars for a couple of weeks :)

Well I am a classic case I'm sure. Very used to necking a bottle of wine a night (+ a large gin or two afterwards). Even if I didn't really want one, I'd still pour a glass once kids in bed, then another, etc. I found not drinking when I was pregnant very easy, as it wasn't really an option. In fact I even remember saying to DH when pregnant how I wasn't missing it at all, but then as soon as I could afterwards, I thought well I might as well have one. Forced it down, even though it tasted horrible, and soon ended up back where I started.

I read the Allen Carr book in the summer. I found it really helpful, cried when I finished it, thinking "this is it!", but I couldn't quite get my head around not questioning your decision to stop, once you've made it. I was constantly thinking about it and there were literally litres of wine in the house (as it had been on offer Blush) so I decided (after about a day..) that I couldn't possibly stop while there was alcohol in the house and set about finishing it. Then I ended up in a silly situation where I was drinking possibly more than normal in order to try and get through the wine. Finally got rid of it and 'stopped' for about a day but by then it had been ages since I'd read the book and it was the weekend, or some other excuse, etc, so I'd buy more wine, then have to get rid of that. etc etc. Then it got to nearly Christmas December and I thought sod it, I'll stop in January.

So here I am, my last drink was on 1st January and I am committed to not drinking in January (and seem to have got that firmly in my head as not negotiable, so this is an improvement! I am not constantly questioning / trying to justify have a drink this evening for once. It's just not going to happen).

Crucially, though, I'm not planning on drinking on 1st Feb either. I'm not sure what I'm going to do come February yet. I really don't think drinking only on weekends would work - have tried that before, it lasts a few weeks but then it starts creeping into the week and then I just give up trying completely.
I'd really like to just not ever drink again, but I just can't picture that, at weddings etc, meals out. I don't feel confident enough to say to friends that I'm not drinking when we go out as I know it will get a big reaction and pestering, and I'll either get annoyed with them or will give in and drink. For now I'm just keeping my head down and not got any plans to go out and hoping by the end of January it will be clearer and I'll be feeling the benefits of not drinking so will be less tempted. For now, my tentative plan for the future is to have a drink when I go out but never at home.

Like others have said, I feel like shouting it from the rooftops that I've been sober for over a week, but I think I'd just get Hmm looks :)

I'd really recommend the Allen Carr book to those of you struggling with that "It's unfair" feeling of not being able to drink, and the rebelling against yourself / others by drinking. Even though I didn't stop in the summer, I've kept thinking about it and stopped feeling like it's a treat to drink. And made me realise that the 'drinking at weekends' rule only reinforces the feeling that it's a treat and that's why it so often fails. Not drinking is a better treat for you! (and repeat to self x10). It sounds a bit like the jason vale book too (have not read that, but just going by earlier posts) - explaining how we get sucked in by the brainwashing that drinking is what people do when they get older.

Big motivations for me are my DDs. I can force myself to not drink if I have to drive early in the morning for work occasionally, for example, but not if I'm going to be looking after them in the morning. That's so wrong. Obviously drink driving is crucial to avoid, but they are important and don't deserve a knackered / rough / grumpy woman first thing in the morning either.
And re going out / parties without alcohol (as an adult) - if I think of them at a party now, would they be happier with a drink - no, it's a horrifying thought, poisoning them, so why do we do it to ourselves. I certainly do not want them growing up seeing me with a wine glass in my hand all the time.

Apologies for this huge essay, once I started I wanted to get it all down, for my own sake really, so I can re-read it in weaker moments! Thank you if you have read this far :-)

Cristiane · 11/01/2012 11:45

Hi hippopottymouth (great name by the way), welcome
A great deal of your post resonates with me too, I am much the same

I think you are projecting a little - one thing people say a lot in here is just take it one day at a time. I am wondering too about special events and things like that. I do remember though that special events didn't seem any less special when I attended them pregnant and not drinking!

Also I know plenty of sober people and they certainly don't feel they are missing out... And we probably romanticise things.i can say great things about the first two glasses of champagne in my honeymoon looking out over Lake Natron, but not so many great things about the dozens that followed...

HippoPottyMouth · 11/01/2012 11:46

Oh and for those of you with juvenile duvet kickers - we use the grobag duvet sets - they zip on to the sheet, but not all the way down, just a section in the middle so you could fold it up if they don't want their feet covered up, but it's enough to stop them falling out of bed!
The only downside to them (apart from the price) is that the designs are a bit dull, when we got ours they had a nice monkey print and a cat and dog one, but these days they are a bit boring imho.

HippoPottyMouth · 11/01/2012 11:51

Thanks Cristiane. God, I even feel a bit teary that someone has read it and acknowledged me :)

Yes, you're right, you don't ever seem to regret not getting drunk after an event, do you.

Cristiane · 11/01/2012 12:00

Aw shucks!

It feels quite a big step to post here and well done for doing it, it is a fabulous source of support.

My biggest motivation is that I want to be here and fully present for my daughters.

So, like you, I don't want them to think of DH and I as having a glass in their hand all evening. I think dd1 has got to the stage where she notices.

I also hate being hungover, and hate wasting time recovering from a hangover. Children bounce out of bed in the morning, so should I.

I want to be alive for them, and I want to be healthy. I am 36 and I have probably drunk too much for 18 years. For fucks sake that is a LOT and that is all my adult life.

My DH has serious depression and shouldn't drink. But if I do, he does. And we enable each other. So for each day I stop and he doesn't drink, he might be getting better.

These are my reasons for not drinking today.

legalalien · 11/01/2012 13:45

Hi all, back from down under where I have consumed copious amounts of Chardonnay (although undoubtedly not nearly as much as I once would have drunk at home on my own).

So - new year, new regime... Day 1 :)

Haven't had a chance to read back through the thread, so will try and catch up gradually!

Theala · 11/01/2012 13:49

saf I think you might be right. Normally, I would have killed that mood/emotion with alcohol, but last night it just came out for some reason. Who knows why? Confused Luckily, I got bundled off to bed with a nice cup of tea, a slice of cake, and my book, and I feel much better this morning. That was a much better outcome than waking up this morning with a hangover and regrets.

Welcome Hippo and Cristiane...yep, that's exactly me too (except I'm a year older than you and don't have daughters). My DP used to smoke dope all day every day, but we made a pact that I'd cut down on my drinking and he'd cut down on his smoking and so far, we're doing it. :)

SillyStrokeSensibleMum · 11/01/2012 14:16

Afternoon all Smile

Hi Hippo, welcome! Great post. Rang lots and lots of bells! I haven't drunk since the 1st either. Feels great doesn't it? Keep posting and letting us know how you're getting on Smile

Legal, welcome back! So how was down under? Whereabouts were you? We went to Oz and New Zealand a few months ago. What did you think of it? My sister lives there and we're thinking about moving there . When I was there I remember being really taken with the drive-through off-licences!!! Thought that was a reason in itself to emigrate! Blush Of course I'm now a changed person and would have no need for such facilities...Grin

Theala, last night sounds like fun...not. Poor you. Glad you're feeling better today. I had a bit of an emotional outburst on Sunday, preceded by a few days of feeling really weepy and over-emotional. Crying a lot. I was quite worried about it and presumed it was down to the not drinking and not being able to hide/drown my emotions. But then I had a, erm, visit from Aunt Flo and all the tension and low mood just disappeared. Thank goodness. That was the worst PMT I can remember having and It was then that i sooo nearly hit the bottle again. I'm going to make sure I pay more attention to my 'cycle' and bear the PMT trigger in mind. Your upset might be nothing to do with that kind of thing but I just thought I'd mention it Smile

Today I will NOT be drinking!

Mouseface · 11/01/2012 14:27

Afternoon, tis me, Mouse

Thank you all for your kind words. I have left a messga efor my GP to call me but he's not in until tomorrow.

DH has decided that enough is enough and contacted our private healthcare people. He rightly said we don't pay X amount of pounds per year not to use it!

So, hopefully, sometime soon, I will have something positive to post.

Whoever it was who asked about Pain Management Clinic...... the doctor that supposedly called the GP practice and asked for me to be seen, is a Chronic Pain Consultant, one of the best there is apparently. Hmm

It's just that he's shit at keeping a track of his patients! I'm managing to get through the day by topping up with Oramorph. Fingers crossed a warm bath later will help too.

Nemo's respite worker is due again shortly so I'll be back later for a proper catch up. I did see Legal and Horse back Smile

And a huge welcome to Hippo Smile

Back later xx

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Theala · 11/01/2012 14:46

SSSM Funnily enough, Flo has arrived about ten days early this month, which hasn't happened in years and might explain last night's tear fest.

Mouse, I hope your DH keeps chasing people about this. WTF is going on with that doctor that called? DId he just deny all knoxledge of calling? That's very weird.

Mouseface · 11/01/2012 16:08

Theala - I haven't got hold of the Chronic Pain Consultant. The new GP (never met him, new to the surgery) was the one who denied all knowledge of me getting a phone call.

He even called out to reception who said that there was no record of anyone calling me, even though the appointment had been made. No idea, I'm going to try and call the pain chap again to see what's going on.

I felt so Blush and stupid yesterday like I'd made it all up! Sad

Off to bath Nemo with his respite worker.

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Theala · 11/01/2012 16:22

FFS! I am furious on your behalf! You have nothing to feel silly about, my love...it's totally not your fault that these people are incompetent arses!!! Angry Rarrr!

Anyway, enjoy bathing your little boy and hopefully somebody will hulk smash their arses sort out this mess soon.

Mouseface · 11/01/2012 17:16

Thank you Theala xx

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Thingumy · 11/01/2012 17:24

Sorry to hear that you are in so much pain and without decent,understanding medical care,I hope privately,you'll get some answers and relief.

Sending strength and positivity to all (including lurkers! )

Cristiane · 11/01/2012 17:47

Boiler broken Angry and cold Sad but otherwise feeling much much better!

obrigada · 11/01/2012 18:09

Just checking in, still booze free, and this evening I will not be drinking!

Ifancyanewname · 11/01/2012 18:52

wow Hippo, well done to you for coming on here for a bit of support! I can identify with so much of what you have said, I read the Jason Vale book and its really changed how i think of alcohol. I even managed going to the pub yesterday with DH and having a soft drink. Its finally sunk in that the feeling I am chasing and trying to achieve through alcohol simply isnt there. I also knew if i "just had one" at the pub I would be nipping round the corner shop later and getting more and that would lead to be feeling rough, having to start again, being worse off and worst of all I'd lose this amazing feeling of being a non drinker and I'd be terribly disappointed in myself. Well done to you for a week sober!!

Mouseface · 11/01/2012 20:56

Well, Nemo is fast asleep and I'm not far behind him.

Goodnight my friends and supporters. It's been a loooooooooooooooooooong day of deceit of life but I've had enough and want out.

I will sleep tonight, I will have DH to listen moment.

I'm cold and tired and so so so so so ready for my bed.

Night night babes xxxxx

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Fairenuff · 11/01/2012 21:39

Evening all Smile and hello Hippo. Yep, your post could almost have been me talking too. Especially the bit about forcing the alcohol in because you're going to stop tomorrow. Then buying more Confused Grin. Been there, done that.

You can only stop when you are ready to stop and I call it 'getting my head in the right place'. So, I have no alcohol in the house, no great social events planned, no birthdays, weddings, etc. for the next few weeks, so I can stop.

The only thing I would recommend now is don't overthink it. When you wake up in the morning, well rested, (without a raging thirst or a tongue like a week old sock or a thumping head and a queasy stomach) you make the decision whether you want to drink THAT DAY. You do not stop to consider what you will do next weekend or even tomorrow. You just don't drink for one day.

And if you feel yourself struggling let us know and we'll post more advice Smile

Big wave to MsGee so good to hear from you, my lovely. Stay strong, you will never forget your little one, nor would you ever want to, but these painful feelings will ease. Glad to hear LittleMissGee is still finding ways to challenge you. Grin x

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