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Silly woman needing your wise help

43 replies

PhuzzyPhelt · 30/12/2011 15:42

Hello all you lovelies, am back for more advice - if possible!

Last time I posted for advice and you were all great - I had a big chat with the boyfriend and a lot (seemingly) got sorted- HOWEVER - back I am again, and feel so head-messed up that I can't make a decision about things.

The boyfriend is 36 and out of work right now. Previously it caused some friction because he was staying in my flat when I was out working and sitting on facebook all day and not appearing to look for work. Meanwhile he wouldn't let me see his house as it needed decorated.

Well I eventually put the foot down and he let me into his house and as suspected it was a bit of a tip. So I went over on weekends and evenings and basically scrubbed it clean (we're talking cat hair and all sorts even though the casts been dead 3 years!) and helped him with the painting. He's still not finished it yet (nearly 3 months later) as he says his landlord wont lend him an 8ft ladder. So most of the socialising indoors we do at my flat as it's at least tidy and warm.

He's recently got back in touch with his 15 year old daughter and I honestly have been delighted for him - initially I had reservations (mainly for his daughter - he basically stopped making an effort at contacting her when she was only 8 claiming his ex was a nightmare - now I'm not interested in the blame, more that his wee girl must have wondered what she did wrong and that she was the one who suffered).

I tried to help him by making sure he could use my laptop to send her messages, helped him wrap her Christmas pressies and he's more or less been at my flat the whole time during winter as his is freezing and has no food in it etc. He's promised to look for work but I still haven't seen any evidence of this. Lately I've been stressed out - money/tax worries at Christmas, and doing really long hours then coming in and having to go shopping then cook dinner! He does try to help but is more or less useless. E.g. I'll put a load of washing on at 7am and leave the flat and when I get back at 7pm it's not been taken out the machine as he'll sleep in and then forget about it, even though it's half his stuff in there!

Anyway, last week he was getting to see his daughter for the first time in 7 years and I'd agreed to run him there when I got back from work. He had the whole day off to write out her cards and so on. When I got in from work he was asleep on the sofa having not written her card or even showered/shaved and he was due there in less than an hour. I'm afraid I lost the plot with him and told him he needed to man up and take some responsibility and it was his daughter I felt sorry for - ashamedly I even said something along the lines of, I guess you don't care as she's so used to being disappointed by you. :(

Anyway by the time he'd got himself organised I had to drive like a nutter though I still got him there 15 minutes late. I was so upset with him I told him he could make his own way home.

I didn't hear from him in days and over Christmas he's taken to sleeping on my sofa (he's now staying up til yon time when Im working watching reruns of top gear) - night before last I got up at 4.30am and put the telly and the lamps off, meanwhile he just lay there on the sofa snoring! - )so I eventually told him yesterday to get out my flat as it seemed clear he wasn't really wanting to spend time with me. He called me hitler and said I was being stupid and he'd go to bed when he liked. I was upset (again) and said my issue wasnt what time he came to bed but the fact he chose not to come to bed at all. I said he'd a perfectly good sofa in his own house and I needed my sleep as I'm working and he wasn't paying rent so wasnt a flatmate. (Go me, that was teh most assertive thing i've almost ever said to him!)

Since then, no contact.

I've been miserable/relieved/confused.

I don't want to believe he's just a lazy user, but that's what it seems like.

Or is it just me being a cow (again)?!

Help!!!

xxx

OP posts:
TheSpreadingChestnutTree · 30/12/2011 15:45

Are you his mum?

PurpleRayne · 30/12/2011 15:48

Well done for getting rid.

Hattytown · 30/12/2011 15:49

No, he is a lazy user.

And you're a rescuer.

kodachrome · 30/12/2011 15:52

Go with relief.

Believe he is a lazy user and yes you made a mistake by letting this go on so long. But you can learn from that. He won't.

You're not being a cow. He's basically lazy and entitled and expects you to do everything for him. You have been a doormat, not a cow.

Tortington · 30/12/2011 15:53

hes a twat

JustHecate · 30/12/2011 15:55

Yes. He's a lazy user. Good for you for realising you are worth more than to be a shag and a maid for some good for nothing loser.

oikopolis · 30/12/2011 15:57

you are well rid
he sounds an absolute arse

BluddyMoFo · 30/12/2011 15:58

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Flanelle · 30/12/2011 16:01

No, a MANFRIEND. A partner. A grown up. He called you HITLER??? What a shithead.

ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 30/12/2011 16:02

Lucky escape - good for you for getting rid!

SarahStratton · 30/12/2011 16:03

Well, the sex must have been amazing. Hmm

Hattytown · 30/12/2011 16:07

Bet it wasn't.

Bet he smelled awful and rarely showered.

Flanelle · 30/12/2011 16:08

I'd be amazed if the sex was amazing.

YuleingFanjo · 30/12/2011 16:09

Does he have a key to your house/flat?
get it back if he does.

presumably you are not hanging out his washing for him?

it sounds to me lke he's not worth having a relationship with. what do you get from it?

franke · 30/12/2011 16:10

Please read back what you've written op. If/when he makes contact PLEASE DO NOT allow him back into your life.

Flanelle · 30/12/2011 16:13

When I was 18, and didn't know any better, I read my boyfriend's diary. We'd had a fantastic day out - really hilarious sexy day out. I wondered what he'd written about it. His diary for the day said, "Got my jump."

I don't know why I'm sharing that really. I'm in a sharing kind of mood perhaps. I think of humanity as being a spectrum. We're all on it, but some people are right down at the other end, and I think your little boy is one of them.

PhuzzyPhelt · 30/12/2011 16:14

A rescuer? Do you know that feels right to me. I often did want to do just that - rescue him from his cold flat and try to help him get on. I've been totally blinded by love? lust?

SarahStratton - probably the only good thing was the sex!

After the fight when he was late seeing his daughter he said I'd been totally unsupportive of him and it nearly destroyed me to hear that. I've been thinking ever since that I am going crazy and maybe I have been bad to him as I did call him on what I thought was sheer laziness!

Last week he told me he wanted us to have kids, and soon, after all I'm 35 and not getting any younger. Headnonsense

OP posts:
SarahStratton · 30/12/2011 16:15

I'd be amazed if the sex was amazing too.

SarahStratton · 30/12/2011 16:17

Honey, believe me, sex will be a whole world of different with someone who is a good person.

kodachrome · 30/12/2011 16:19

More reason not to waste another moment on this guy. He's already an awful father, you shouldn't inflict him on another child.

BalloonSlayer · 30/12/2011 16:22

"After the fight when he was late seeing his daughter he said I'd been totally unsupportive of him"

Shock Angry

That takes the fucking biscuit.

That poor DD probably won't see him for another 7 years, when he gets another girlfriend prepared to overlook how monumentally useless he is and who bends over backwards trying to help him see her.

You do realise "his ex was a nightmare" translates as "his ex tried to make sure he contacted his DD when he said he would so that the DD wouldn't feel let down" don't you?

PLEASE don't let him back into your life. He is the dictionary definition of useless.

Eurostar · 30/12/2011 16:23

OP - serious question - what do you get out of this relationship? Not saying write it down here if you don't want to but do try to be really honest with yourself. The need to rescue when it has long been clear that he doesn't respond to being rescued - what is keeping you trying over and over?

Anniegetyourgun · 30/12/2011 16:23

What you said about him letting his daughter down was harsh - but frankly, fair. Because by the sound of it you cared a great deal more about her feelings than her own father does, and that made you a bit snippy.

As for the rest, there's a limit to how "supportive" you should be for someone who really isn't interested in helping themselves.

PhuzzyPhelt · 30/12/2011 16:35

I was really pretty harsh to him, when really it's not my business, it's between him and his daughter. I think he's exceedingly lucky, this wee girl sounds like an absolute sweetheart- kind and concerned and just happy her father is back in her life.

At some points he's said as much and claimed it was down to "his genes" - I told him it was down to the good parenting she's clearly had. He's came round and admitted ho lucky he is - his ex and her hubby have done an amazing job and also have another 3 kids. I can't explain it but I'm just on his daughters side every time and when I found him sleeping I was angry, yes for me, and for him being utterly lazy, but more for her. I do regret going off on one to a hurtful extreme but he did need told.

I think he's very clever and funny and he's a good looking guy. I've not had much luck with the chaps - my longest relationship ended after the guy involved just kept putting me last. This one tells me frequently that he loves me and wants to be with me, I'm not used to hearing it so maybe thats why Im a bit dense at realising he could be doing more

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pinkyredrose · 30/12/2011 16:35

You're well rid, he sounds awful!

Think you've had the best start ever to the New Year!

Look forward to the future and meeting a man who treats you like an equal.

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