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Silly woman needing your wise help

43 replies

PhuzzyPhelt · 30/12/2011 15:42

Hello all you lovelies, am back for more advice - if possible!

Last time I posted for advice and you were all great - I had a big chat with the boyfriend and a lot (seemingly) got sorted- HOWEVER - back I am again, and feel so head-messed up that I can't make a decision about things.

The boyfriend is 36 and out of work right now. Previously it caused some friction because he was staying in my flat when I was out working and sitting on facebook all day and not appearing to look for work. Meanwhile he wouldn't let me see his house as it needed decorated.

Well I eventually put the foot down and he let me into his house and as suspected it was a bit of a tip. So I went over on weekends and evenings and basically scrubbed it clean (we're talking cat hair and all sorts even though the casts been dead 3 years!) and helped him with the painting. He's still not finished it yet (nearly 3 months later) as he says his landlord wont lend him an 8ft ladder. So most of the socialising indoors we do at my flat as it's at least tidy and warm.

He's recently got back in touch with his 15 year old daughter and I honestly have been delighted for him - initially I had reservations (mainly for his daughter - he basically stopped making an effort at contacting her when she was only 8 claiming his ex was a nightmare - now I'm not interested in the blame, more that his wee girl must have wondered what she did wrong and that she was the one who suffered).

I tried to help him by making sure he could use my laptop to send her messages, helped him wrap her Christmas pressies and he's more or less been at my flat the whole time during winter as his is freezing and has no food in it etc. He's promised to look for work but I still haven't seen any evidence of this. Lately I've been stressed out - money/tax worries at Christmas, and doing really long hours then coming in and having to go shopping then cook dinner! He does try to help but is more or less useless. E.g. I'll put a load of washing on at 7am and leave the flat and when I get back at 7pm it's not been taken out the machine as he'll sleep in and then forget about it, even though it's half his stuff in there!

Anyway, last week he was getting to see his daughter for the first time in 7 years and I'd agreed to run him there when I got back from work. He had the whole day off to write out her cards and so on. When I got in from work he was asleep on the sofa having not written her card or even showered/shaved and he was due there in less than an hour. I'm afraid I lost the plot with him and told him he needed to man up and take some responsibility and it was his daughter I felt sorry for - ashamedly I even said something along the lines of, I guess you don't care as she's so used to being disappointed by you. :(

Anyway by the time he'd got himself organised I had to drive like a nutter though I still got him there 15 minutes late. I was so upset with him I told him he could make his own way home.

I didn't hear from him in days and over Christmas he's taken to sleeping on my sofa (he's now staying up til yon time when Im working watching reruns of top gear) - night before last I got up at 4.30am and put the telly and the lamps off, meanwhile he just lay there on the sofa snoring! - )so I eventually told him yesterday to get out my flat as it seemed clear he wasn't really wanting to spend time with me. He called me hitler and said I was being stupid and he'd go to bed when he liked. I was upset (again) and said my issue wasnt what time he came to bed but the fact he chose not to come to bed at all. I said he'd a perfectly good sofa in his own house and I needed my sleep as I'm working and he wasn't paying rent so wasnt a flatmate. (Go me, that was teh most assertive thing i've almost ever said to him!)

Since then, no contact.

I've been miserable/relieved/confused.

I don't want to believe he's just a lazy user, but that's what it seems like.

Or is it just me being a cow (again)?!

Help!!!

xxx

OP posts:
BibiBlocksberg · 30/12/2011 16:36

"After the fight when he was late seeing his daughter he said I'd been totally unsupportive of him"

Another poster absolutely outraged at that cheap shot in particular Angry for you!

I have had the unfortunate 'pleasure' in life to get my fingers (and purse) burned by users like your (hopefully now ex) and can say with confidence he won't change.

Nothing you do for this type of sponge is ever enough, they're a bottomless barrel, the more you shovel in the more they feel entitled to from you rather than showing enormous gratitude.

Well done you OP for standing up and telling him what's what. Now keep it that way and don't let the user anywhere near your house and couch again.

BalloonSlayer · 30/12/2011 16:45

"really it's not my business, it's between him and his daughter."

he MADE it your business by as usual sitting on his arse and letting you:

  • make sure he could use your laptop to send her messages
  • help him wrap her Christmas pressies
  • agreed to run him there when I got back from work.
  • woke him up and got him moving
  • drove like a nutter to get him there
Eurostar · 30/12/2011 16:46

"This one tells me frequently that he loves me and wants to be with me, I'm not used to hearing it so maybe thats why Im a bit dense at realising he could be doing more"

Have you ever read the old self-help classic, "women who love too much"?

Eurostar · 30/12/2011 16:48

OP - I've just read this part of your first post
"So I went over on weekends and evenings and basically scrubbed it clean"
Sounds like you did the cleaning on your own, not even a joint thing?

Scoundrel · 30/12/2011 16:49

Sadly I think he will drop out of her life again when (not IF!) you dump him from a big height. Please do not make this your issue, it's not your guilt to feel x

LadyMedea · 30/12/2011 17:02

It really doesn't matter too figs if he says he loves you. Action's speak louder than words, his actions say I'm a selfish dickhead.

kodachrome · 30/12/2011 17:12

Yes, his actions say he only loves himself. Couldn't give a crap about his dd, couldn't give a crap about you.

BibiBlocksberg · 30/12/2011 17:16

Was just about to add actions speak louder than words but LadyMedea got there first.

The thought of users of this type has got me a bit ranty now actually.

Absolutely mindblowing to think of all the kindness, love, support, money etc these people can consume and STILL be whining that it's not enough.

And all they have to do in return is offer a feeble 'oh, but I love you, I don't want us to split up' for it all to continue.

Words are cheap - even cheaper if they buy someone free access to a clean warm home, a no doubt filled fridge, internet access and so on.

Grrrrrrrr.....

Sorry OP, this is clearly my left-over anger from over-giving to this type of 'man'

Can I go round and deliver a swift kick to the shins and a lecture on what a using knobhead he is please?

inatrance · 30/12/2011 18:02

Don't listen to what he says, look at his actions. They are telling you loud and clear that he is lazy, unreliable a crap partner and an even worse father.

inatrance · 30/12/2011 18:03

X post with everyone there, sorry. Blush

scarletforya · 30/12/2011 18:11

Bloody hell, you think you were harsh on him? I would have ripped him a new one, never mind run around after him like as if he was a baby!

Sorry OP. He was a cocklodger! You're well rid.

FabbyChic · 30/12/2011 18:15

Id never support an out of work boyfriend, done it with the kids dad ten years, I worked he sat on his arse or was in the bookies but took half of what was left after I paid bills and food.

Then when he had spent his half wanted more as there was a dead cert in the next race.

Took me ten years to get out of it, ten. By then I was 30. He was clean and tidy and did look after the kids whilst I worked but he spent money so bad I had to bankrupt myself.

Then I met and married a man who did work, but I put 450 a week in the house and he put in 100, I paid for xmas and holidays and his clothes.

Fuck that, then I met someone who didn't work again who drank.

Never again. Im on my own now thank god and no man costs me anything.

CJ2010 · 30/12/2011 18:24

You sound like a very kind, caring person but you MUST work on building up your self esteem. You deserve better.

He is a tosser. Anyone that can abandon their own child for years is a cunt.

Mulledbee · 30/12/2011 18:38

He sounds dreadful, wheres the support for you in this relationship? How can you possibly see this man-boy as an equal? You deserve so much better.

SweetLilyTea · 30/12/2011 18:39

You are not a cow, he sounds like a user and a waste of space. Be thankful you didn't have children with him, you have no ties to him now.

Don't let him charm his way back into your life, I'm sure he'll try.

EnjoyResponsibly · 30/12/2011 18:39

No way this cock's gone for good.

Get ready for the big crawl back OP.

Have your OP pinned to the wall next to the phone and on the back of your front door.

tallwivglasses · 30/12/2011 18:40

He calls you unsupportive? After everything you've done for him? He's never going to be grateful because he thinks the world owes him a living. We must introduce him to my ExP - they could compare notes.

YOU ARE WORTH MORE THAN THIS!!!

lazarusinNazareth · 30/12/2011 18:42

I think he was lucky his daughter was prepared to wait that 15 minutes for him. I don't think I would have done - he hadn't seen her for years and he wasn't even interested enough to be awake and ready when you got home!
I think if fails to contact you, you've had a lucky escape. You deserve so much better. He has done nothing but take advantage of you and say the right things.

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