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What now?

41 replies

myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:03

Ex and I have been living apart for two years. He has nowhere suitable to see the dc so comes round here. It usually works ok when he has not been drinking etc. We spent Christmas together with the dc, it was stressful but not awful and most importantly the dc were happy. He does have a deep rooted anger at not being able to live here with the family anymore. He drank every night, he has unfaithful and had more affairs then I could count and at the end made no effort to hide it, he was verbally and sometimes physically abusive but he still believes that I am wrong to have ended the marriage.

Tonight he came round and seemed sober, looking closer though he had had a few to drink and was quite hyper. I hate being round him like this. He started making himself and dc something to eat and was drinking a beer, he put some music on quite loudly, I asked him to calm things down a bit and I was clearly unhappy with the way things were going and showed it and it turned into an argument during which he called me a fat cunt (again) told me he can do what the fuck he likes in HIS house (again) and I am a lazy cunt who has had everything handed to him on a plate (again) he then handed me a plate of food and told me to "make yourself fucking useful you fat cunt", I knocked the plate out of his hand, this made him very angry he called me a lot of names, pushed me and threw a tea towel in my face and he then proceeded to tell my dc very, very personal stuff about our marriage that they are in no way old enough to cope with.

I told him to leave or I would call the police and he left BUT later on I realised he had taken a set of keys with him. I am concerned about him letting himself in and taking stuff (he is perfectly entitled to apparently because HE paid for it and it would not be the first time he has done this). So I have called the police and logged what happened, I told them about his abuse and asked if he could be warned about it and also about the keys. They are coming to take a statement on Friday (I will be away until then).

He will go mad, I know he will, but I had to do it didn't I? I did the right thing didn't I? I can't let him talk to my dc like that and about stuff like that. He told them I was planning on moving a new boyfriend in who would hit them Shock and I was trying to get them a new dad! I don't even have a boyfriend, I saw one man, an old friend for about 6 weeks and that is the sum total of my romantic life over the last four years.

I just need some hand holding really because I think this going to get horribly worse before it gets better.

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michglas · 26/12/2011 23:07

You absolutely did the right thing. You would be entitled to go and see a solicitor straight away and they can get an emergency injunction preventing him from coming near you or entering your home. I would advise you to see if you can get an appointment tomorrow. He has been physically and verbally abusive, and you shouldn't ever have to put up with that. Good luck with it all.

foolonthehill · 26/12/2011 23:08

Sad and [hug]. Too entwined with similar to be any use...but let's make this the year we really break free!!

best wishes

myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:20

Sorry to hear you are going through it as well foolonthehill Sad hugs back.

Would it really be possible to get an injunction on the strength of this? I was under the impression it had to be terrible physical abuse before that could be agreed. I just want to be free of him Sad. I just want him to get a place to have the kids. Why cant he put half as much energy into sorting that out as he does into abusing me.

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babyhammock · 26/12/2011 23:21

You absolutely did the right thing. I wouldn't have him in the house again, he is a nasty piece of work isn't he x

lisaro · 26/12/2011 23:22

He sounds to have had more than drink unless he's always like that.

myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:22

Typo. Had everything handed to her on a plate, not him, I am not a man!

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myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:23

Yes he is always like that. Very aggressive when drunk.

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myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:24

That's the thing I don't know how to keep him out. He has nowhere to take the kids. It's so hard.

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OnemorningXmasCockMonkey · 26/12/2011 23:25

You did the right thing, OP. Hope you and foolonthehill have better days ahead xx

izzywhizzysmincepies · 26/12/2011 23:27

Are you married to this twunt? Is the house in joint names?

pictish · 26/12/2011 23:28

Just make that the last time he sets foot through your door.

If he wants to seer the kids he can sort himself out somewhere to live. His relationship with the kids is his responsibility, not yours, and you are in no way obliged to play hostess to him.
ask him to return the keys straight away. if he does not, change the locks.

Do not tolerate this awful abusive man in your home for another second.
Make this the end of it.

mumblechum1 · 26/12/2011 23:28

You will almost certainly get a non molestation injunction against him and possibly an occupation order (but they are harder to obtain).

Why haven't you divorced him yet/sorted out the house etc? You need to get a solicitor on board pronto imo.

michglas · 26/12/2011 23:30

But it's not a one-off incident, it is a string of events leading up to this - it does not have to be one bad physical act that leads to an injunction. In my case it was with the ex but only because i kept making excuses so never did anything about it, and the last event led to him damaging my kidney and putting me in hospital.

myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:31

I have had the divorce petition sent but he did not respond, it will be re-sent in the New Year. The house is in joint names because he ran up £1000's of arrears when he lived here, which I am paying off, however this means they will not make any changes to the tenancy while the account is in arrears. It is a HA property.

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lisaro · 26/12/2011 23:32

Oh dear. Sometimes being reasonable and the better person is just not in yours or your childrens' best interests. Please stop him from coming to the house, see a solicitor. I wish you well.

BastedTurkey · 26/12/2011 23:32

You were totally right to do what you did.

Can you get to a DIY store and buy a lock and a few bolts? Then swap the lock on one door and put bolts on the others to keep him out while you are away.

There are lots of places that he can take the DCs if he wants to. Our local soft play is used for supervised contact, he could take them to the park / visit relatives / museums are free if it is raining etc, but as others have said he needs to find somewhere appropriate to live so that he can have the DCs.

Thinking about it more I wonder if he is using this as an excuse to stay around you / control you

pictish · 26/12/2011 23:35

He is definitely using seeing the kids as an excuse to keep his hand in and his control going.

Blaring loud music in your house, then refusing to turn it down when requested to? Fucking mind games.

ripitupandstartagain · 26/12/2011 23:36

Tough if he doesn't have anywhere to have the kids - not your problem.

My ex had the kids in my house for about a year every saturday night and I went elsewhere because I wanted the night off and a lie in at my boyfriend's to faciliate access. Half the time he just used the washing machine and ate my food whilst the kids ate crisps. Then my he rifled through my stuff one night and stole my diaries from my house. He is also consumed with anger about the break-up (still).

I told him that he had blown it as he couldn't be trusted. I also reported it to the police. I had to give up my night off and make a stand. He now takes them out for an hour or two, once a week, and surprise surprise, has now found himself somewhere to live (a bedsit apparently) and has had the kids overnight once or twice.

I do understand your difficulty though, as my ex was violent to me when I told him it was over, and intimidating a nasty otherwise. I also have a lot of support from my mum who gives me some respite which I need - particularly as one of my sons has special needs and I work full time.

myexisatwat · 26/12/2011 23:47

Yes, he often helps himself to food, has a bath here etc. As he pays child support he sees this as his perfect entitlement and any protest is met with a litany of abuse as detailed in the first post. He fully believes that I should have put up with the marriage as it was and I should have been the one to move out of the family home as I was the one with the problem. "I will do what I want in MY fucking house" is an oft repeated phrase around here.

I don't even mind about him not taking the kids overnight for a while, I can cope, I have been for a long time as he was not particularly hands on even when we did live together.

I can't take this anymore, I know he will say that this is all my fault because I knocked the plate out of his hand because everything, any slight retaliation on my part becomes the reason that the argument happened in the first place not because of the awful names he was calling me.

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pictish · 26/12/2011 23:51

Yes...he is very manipulative, controlling and aggressive isn't he? He verbally abuses to you until you retaliate, then accuses you of starting fight...a fight with he jumps into with both feet to start kicking the shit around. What a total prick he is.

Right well...it's not his house, so he can fuck off. Don't let him in any more.

pictish · 26/12/2011 23:54

Your kids do not need to be around this.
It's is not in the interests of being a good parent, even, to allow this to occur so much as once more.

If seeing the kids in your house is going to result in such diabolical, disrespectful, bullying behaviour then you need to keep him out for good.

suburbophobe · 27/12/2011 00:03

As long as you are enabling him, he will take advantage.

And you really don't need this fuckwit around, it is HIS responsibility to find a place to meet his kids in.

Change the locks. And stop letting him walk all over you and damage you and the kids with his crap!
Get all legal things in place....!

Good luck! You can do it (I did..).

myexisatwat · 27/12/2011 00:05

I know Sad. I have emailed my solicitor but he is not back at work till after the new year, got an auto reply message back. Police coming on Friday.

pictish you have summed him up so well.

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ripitupandstartagain · 27/12/2011 00:08

Good luck - and a strong backbone! x

suburbophobe · 27/12/2011 00:11

That's the thing I don't know how to keep him out. He has nowhere to take the kids. It's so hard.

Stop making excuses for him and stop enabling him.
It's been 2 years, more than enough time for him to get another place sorted....

(Anyway, I'm sure there's a park and a cafe around for him to take them to...).

He will still be giving you this same ole crapola in 10 years time unless YOU stop it NOW.

Are you in counselling as to why you let this person make a misery of you and your kids' life?