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Calling someone up on a lie... when they owe you money!

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ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 20/11/2011 23:09

Bugger. The long version makes me sound like a gullible knob. In fact all three versions I've tried to write have made me sound like a gullible knob.
The very very short version (this one) is probs just as bad but if i dont post now I wont before I go to bed.

I lent a friend (who I've had a casual sexual relationship with for 18 months) a sum of money. Not huge - but it was the amount I had left to see me through to the end of the month.

He went on a night out last night and we had arranged for him to stay at mine. He didnt turn up. I received a text this afternoon from his phone from a "friend" saying he had been taken to local hospital during the course of the night due to an attack of a condition I know he has, and he will call me in the week.

I was a bit suspicious of the text as it was written with poor spelling, crap syntax and unusual punctuation - in fact, in the style of my friend.

After a bottle of wine this evening I rang hospital admissions and lo and behold he has not been admitted at all. Which I knew. I fully intend to call him up on this and say I want nothing to do with him any more, but two things are pissing me off.

  1. WHY make up a lie? If he didnt want to come over, he knows that would have been fine! I have made clear over the 18 months that I don;t WANT to be with him and I love things as they are. Even if he met some woman I wouldn't have minded - why lie? (We use protection, btw) and 2) I don't think I can force myself to keep quiet until I get my money back. I want to call him up on this lie tomorrow. I know this will mean forfeiting my £50 but I am so pissed off.

Can I have some advice, please? What would you do? PLEASE don't comment along the lines of "well, if you let a bloke shag you casually, what do you expect?" - I DO see that point, but our friendship has gone from strength to strength for the last 18 months and this is what hurts more than fifty pissing quid. I just dont get why he lied. And such a massive lie as well! :-( If I call him on this and I lose him as a friend I will be GUTTED
TIA xxx

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PlumpDogPillionaire · 26/11/2011 18:59

As others have said, you're account should be fine - unless there's a possibility he could have pin numbers. Call on Monday.

If I were you I'd tell him quite plainly not to get back in touch with you. I wouldn't try and put anything funny or cutting in the message as it could be a red flag to a bullshitter
I mean, don't say anythng that could in any way look as if it's designed to provoke any response other than his pissing right off.
If he carries on after that and it actually becomes frightening, let him know that you'll report him to the police. And as others have said, keep texts and a record of contact if it starts to worry you.
You shouldn't have to switch your phone off because some knobber won't leave you alone.

izzywhizzysmincepies · 26/11/2011 19:32

Providing you haven't given him any security details, your bank account safe, he can't access it and there's absolutely no need for you to give this a second thought, let alone close your account and open another one.

The twat is a bullshitter and the problem with bullshitters is that they think everyone else is playing the same game as them. This means that they assume that 'no' is merely an opener to negotiations. Similarly, to a bullshitter, silence from the other party means that they're considering agreeing to whatever half-baked proposition has been put on the table.

He needs to know that your NO is final and you therefore need to spell it out to him in no uncertain terms, most probably on more than one occasion.

Bullshitters are shameless and have notoriously thick skins. Language such as 'it's over', 'you're dumped' and 'fuck off or I'm calling the police' may eventually get the message across.

However, no matter how you word your refusal to continue your liaison with them, you can confidently expect a bullshitter to reappear in your life whenever they are financially or emotionally on their uppers

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