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Atricle about a male online porn junkie

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MillyStar · 18/11/2011 11:28

I thought you lot mind find the following link interesting, the subject seems to pop up on here a lot

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2062466/Confessions-online-porn-junkie.html

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MadAboutHotChoc · 19/11/2011 08:33

Tuffin - my H stopped watching porn after I asked him to do some reading about the realities of the porn industry. He had no idea just how bad it is and no longer wanted to be part of it. Try googling Robert Jenson & Gail Dines's Pornland.

AyeBelieve · 19/11/2011 09:27

A lot of the issues you've all talked about on this thread were also covered HERE if anyone's interested.

I suspect the guilt (and, yes, the abuse) is part of the thrill for the "addicted", especially those that realise the harm that is done in the industry yet still insist on using porn.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 19/11/2011 18:30

hmmmm (that's a thinking hard 'hmmmmm', not a Hmm) ...

I just watched the Dworkin documentary that's being talked about here and it's helped me articulate something - I think the number of men who genuinely realise the harm that's done in the industry and still insist on using porn is probably very small.

There is the guilty thrill but mostly it's to do with watching something naughty, dirty and 'forbidden'. Even with violent porn, I think most men believe it to be consenting - they think they're watching actors playing out a fantasy because that's what the industry wants people to believe.

Willful ignorance is very easy in this area. The few voices telling it like it is are drowned out by the industry's own propaganda. I think as MadAbout says, education can be very effective for 'normal' porn users. There are a helluva lot of those - what if they all read up on the reality and stopped using porn as a result? The few sick arseholes who would still get off even if they knew they were witnessing abuse would stand out like sore thumbs once the rest of society stopped condoning what they're doing.

GuiltyChap · 21/11/2011 13:34

I was watching the Dworkin documentary on the other thread, and it made me think. But I think what would make a big impression on me is seeing an interview with a porn actress who I had seen and assumed to be happy saying how unhappy it made her.

When I listen to Dworkin talking about battery or sex with animals, it doesn't ring true for me because that's not the kind of imagery most men who watch porn come into contact with.

AnyFucker · 21/11/2011 13:45

GuiltyChap bearing in mind you are better able to articulate why your porn use makes you feel bad, why are still planning on doing it ?

There is that novel state of mind you could utilise, you know

It's called free will

you shouldn't need to see an actress telling you how unhappy it has made her...isn't that kinda after the horse has bolted, so to speak ?

why does anyone being made unhappy and damaged so you get your orgasm have to happen before you will make your mind up ?

GuiltyChap · 21/11/2011 13:53

Because if no-one is harmed in the making of mainstream porn that people like I watch on occasion, where's the problem?

The point I was making is that a lot of the work by people like Dworkin is talking about people in the 1970s I've never seen. However, if you go on the internet, there are probably 20 or so actresses that many men would know. If I heard someone I'd actually seen, and I'd been wrong about them assuming to be consenting, that would have a big impact on me.

Malificence · 21/11/2011 13:56

There is an ex porn actress, Shelley Lubben, with a website where there are numerous interviews with women performers and they personify the physical and emotional pain caused by mainstream porn work.

Perhaps thinking about the women who contracted HIV or Herpes the first time they performed or had their anuses ripped so badly they were incontinent might help put you off GC?

AnyFucker · 21/11/2011 14:02

I am loath to do your research for you, GC

GuiltyChap · 21/11/2011 14:11

AF, I wasn't asking you to
Malificence, thanks, I'll look that up

AnyFucker · 21/11/2011 14:14

Well, GC it seems that you want a reason to give up porn, I would like just one more man I have "spoken" to to give up porn... so no need to be snippy

But you do need to do your research for yourself

Makeyerowndamndinner · 21/11/2011 18:11

Guiltychap it seems that you're saying, 'When I see the misery for myself then I'll believe it, but until then I'll carry on.'

But we're telling you the porn industry causes misery and that we've personally seen interviews with porn actresses confirming this. Do you think we're lying? Because we've got a vested interest in spoiling a strangers 'fun'?

That the porn industry causes misery for many of the women who work in it is a well known and well documented fact. Why won't you stop on that basis? Because you don't want to, I think is the bottom line. You'd rather stick your fingers in your ears.

I find it hard to respect that viewpoint.

thunderboltsandlightning · 21/11/2011 18:36

Women are harmed in the making of mainstream porn GC. Educate yourself:

www.shelleylubben.com/

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