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I've lost respect for my husband and not sure I can get it back.

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IsabellaPasta · 12/09/2011 10:53

Not sure where to start. Bit of a long one and will be all over the place I'm sure. I had DS almost 3 years ago and at the time, we were living close to my in-laws. From the moment he was born - in fact, even before he was born - the comments started. MiL and Sil basically laughing in my face at things that were important to me - just the usual PFB things, but things that I thought would make him safe, such as laying him on his back to sleep, not wanting to use an old mattress that they'd given me, not wanting him to stay overnight at MiLs (Ok, that was because I didn't want to be away from him), having a temperature egg in his room, and there are tons more. I had a 2 day induced labour followed by an EmCS and was in hospital for a week and was anemic after but from the first day back home, MiL just wouldn't leave us alone. She came round telling me that I needed to send thank you cards to her relatives for presents and gifts and reminded us daily. She also kept popping round without ringing first and would stay all day just telling me what I was doing wrong. They would comment on everything I did and say things like "why is your mummy so silly" and "what is your stupid mummy on about", they even called DS a poor little mite because I didn't want him to watch Cbeebies - he was 6 weeks old at the time. The most hurtful thing they said is when I went back to work, they said that they felt sorry for him having such a cruel mum who would put him in nursery (really, they wanted MiL to look after him all week) which I didn't want. I had always intended for him to go to nursery and was vocal about that so it shouldn't have been a surprise. It's hard to explain and remember it all but at the time I felt totally inadequate as a mother and spent most of the first year in tears. I was also diagnosed with PND which they suspected - although, they still continued to dig at me.

My issue is that from the beginning, I would plead with my DH on a daily basis to talk to them and ask them to give me some space and he said he would but never did. He even said that I was being too sensitive. Anyway, a year or so went on and I got a bit more confident as a mum. They then started asking when I was going to start looking after myself, get my hair done etc as it "wasn't very stylish". Again, I asked DH to tell them to back off. I didn't think it was my place to and quite frankly, I didn't have the energy by then as DS was a bad sleeper and just getting through the day at work was a struggle. Over time, DH agreed that they were out of order but told me to ignore them. Not once did he ever tackle them about their behaviour. It went on and on for months after that so I asked work for a move and we ended up moving to the other side of the country. DH got a move through his job too, but he seemed happier to do that than actually tackle his family. Even when DH told them we were moving, he said that it was because of my job rather than the real reason. The long and short of it, is that we moved over a year ago and I still can't move on. I still feel huge resentment towards DH for not supporting me. I care about him but I don't like him at all. I feel hugely let down by him at a time when I was at my most vulnerable and I can't see a way past this as I have no respect for him as a DH. He is a fantastic dad, I can't fault that, but as a DH, I just see him as a weak person who is frightened of his own family - even when we go back to visit, he doesn't tackle them about the way they talk to me. I have trouble finding him attractive now, whereas, pre-DS, we had a great sex life. This sounds mad, but he also looks like his mum and when I look at him, I see her. When he talks, I don't have any interest in what he's saying, like he doesn't deserve for me to be interested in what he has to say. I feel like I want to punish him if that makes sense. I don't want to split up, but I don't want to be in a marriage where all we have in common is our DS. We get on ok day to day, but we are 2 parents living in a house rather than man and wife. I don't know where to start to make it better.
This is so long, I'm really sorry, but any advice would be great. Thank you for reading.

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IsabellaPasta · 12/09/2011 14:03

Izzywhizzy , after our last visit, I told DH that I wasn't going back there again and he'd have to go alone. He said fine with him. I feel bad though as I want DS to have a relationship with his GM but the car journey is very long to cope with a toddler which is why I've always gone too. Mind you, she's not visited us once in a year so why we make the effort I don't know. And yes, me being a whingebag might be too much like his mother when he looks at me. Point taken Grin.

venusandmars you speak so much sense. We do need to go out and reconnect and enjoy ourselves and be partners again. I agree also re SiL being in Mil's shadow. They do everything together. Bar holidays, I have not known them to spend one weekend apart.

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IsabellaPasta · 12/09/2011 14:12

You are all right. I should be more assertive, but I fear that I'll just lose it and end up telling her/them to fuck off which would be really rude and no going back then. Perhaps that is all they understand. After all, Sil rang us up once and called me a c*nt so she must have learnt that behaviour from somewhere. To be fair, I have spoken with friends about this and they have said that they are shocked that my DH has turned out so lovely given how they are. He is lovely actually, he's so kind to me and lets me have lie-ins at the weekend and every morning he gets DS ready for nursery whilst I have coffee and get ready for work. I don't want us to split. I just want to feel less resentful.

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startAfire · 12/09/2011 14:17

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ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 12/09/2011 14:17

It sounds like you do still respect your husband, but need him to acknowledge how you feel. What kind of setting do you think might help the two of you communicate on this point? If he can be convinced, a session or two with a relationship counselor might get you what you need: a safe forum to hear and be heard.

(and frankly: your SiL called you a cunt on the phone? You would be justified in cutting off all contact! Am shocked.)

leicestershiregirl · 12/09/2011 14:39

OP, you could be me! My DP's family have treated me dreadfully, in my case it is my MiL and BiL that are the problem. A few months ago BiL came round in the day when DP wasn't here, we got into a heated argument about something or other (probably the house not being tidy enough as that is something he regularly criticises me for) and he flipped, screaming at me that I was a bitch and waving his fist at me. DP's reaction? To say it was completely out of order but to do nothing about it apart from ask BiL (who he sees most days) a couple of weeks later not to come round in the day when he's not here, something which BiL has completely ignored. As I've been typing this somebody has just knocked at the door and I know it's him. Just sitting here now hoping he'll go away...Like you OP, we are going to move to get away from it. I resent DP - I too feel it is up to him to stand up to them coz they are his family - but I also feel sorry for him coz they bully him too.

I think relationship counselling could help you.

Sn0wGoose · 12/09/2011 14:50

Omfg. Seriously, I would not lose sleep over offending someone who called me a cnut, family or not - "no going back"? I should hope not!!!! [shocked]

IsabellaPasta · 12/09/2011 14:51

I think DH would give counselling a go but I think more than anything, we need a good night out together. It sounds so simple, but we never have any fun. Well, we do, DS is a joy but you know what I mean. We don't have fun together, we are on parent duty all the time or at work. We barely sleep in the same bed sometimes as DS is such a troubled sleeper, with us both working and needing to be up in the mornings, we take turns to sleep in DS' room when he's having a bad night (I know, rod for own back).

Thank you all so much for your advice. I think I have been so focussed on the negative that I've had trouble seeing the positive. I think too that perhaps he is supportive in his own way, like we need to go back and move more stuff out of our old house (which isn't sold yet - fallen through 3 times) and when I said I didn't want to go back again, DH said that he'd go down one night after work and sort it so I didn't have to see them again. I think a big part of the problem too is that we still have the house there so I feel in limbo somewhat.

Puppy, I know. I was shocked too. I just put the phone down on her. We timed our last visit for when she was away so I haven't seen her in 8 or so months and have no plans to.

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IsabellaPasta · 12/09/2011 14:58

leicestershiregirl they say that in every bad situation there is someone worse off than you and I think that might be you. Jeez, I would feel so frightened in your shoes. Ok, mine are bad, but I don't feel physically threatened by them. I am really shocked that your BiL did that. Why would he come to your house too? For what reason? Being afraid to answer your door is not on. Wow, relationships with inlaws never cease to amaze me. Call the police, he is harrassing you.

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ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 12/09/2011 14:59

A night or more out together sounds like a lovely plan. And well-deserved.

venusandmars · 12/09/2011 16:14

And Isabella what would be the worst that would happen if you were properly assertive with your ILs? I don't mean being disrespectful and mean, or calling them c*s, but simply stating your needs and standing your own ground. What's the owrst that you can imagine? If you're a bit of a 'people pleaser' then for you, the worst thing might be that they are unhappy with you. Well actually, compared to your relationship with your dh, and your family life together, that's nothing. The world does not end if you do not keep everyone happy.

And.. Smile Smile Smile that you appear to be much more focussed on the good things that you and dh DO have.

GrinningImp · 18/05/2012 14:22

Isabella, I'd be keen to know how things are now?

Just read this 'cos was searching for help on my own respect for DH problem.

What you've gone through sounds 80% similar to what's happening here (except the ILs are GPs to my stepkids & they are my DH's EX-inlaws, post- bereavement: a horrible situation).

I've spent 3 years standing up for myself, begging him to stand up for himself against their bullying & manipulation (the kids = battleground, like a bad divorce), hearing ILs' words through kids' mouths, being abused in the street and on my own doorstep and clinging to dignity & what's best for kids. I have a 16mth old + the lovely SKs. Oh, and they're supposed to be "posh"...Hmm

I'm gonna stop there, 'cos I could go on forever, but I genuinely want to know what happened after September - did you manage to get your respect for him back? How?
best wishes, GI x

Arachnophobic · 18/05/2012 19:54

OP I read your post and it could be me! DP and I have been through a terrible time of it with the outlaws for a few years which came to a head in January. Like you my main issue was his lack of support. He could stand there and have a go at me but never to his family. It feels so disloyal doesn't it?

We are just about coming out of the other side now, and we did go to couples counselling, which did change is perspective a bit. So I would recommend that.

I personally have kept my distance from them a bit, and sometimes my DP take the Dc round to theirs without me, gives me a chance to put my feet up!

And also I stop being the idiot I once was and if I need to be assertive, I am. I kept my mouth shut for too long IYSWIM. I felt that to tolerate the behaviour was to encourage it.

Good luck OP. You will never be able to change your DP but this is a situation which CAN be managed.

Xx

Arachnophobic · 18/05/2012 19:55

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