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anyone had experience of partner with 'oppositional defiance disorder'??

58 replies

anynamesleft · 11/09/2011 22:46

Hi,

I've been researching child behaviour to try to support my 5yo in managing their emotions and came across 'oppositional defiance disorder' (I've cut and pasted a description of ODD below).

It didn't really fit with my child's behaviour but DID resonate with some of my partner's behaviour which I find difficult to deal with. It's as if when I have expectations of him (in contributing to / participating in things as part of the family) he sees me as an 'authority figure' to which his natural response is to be defiant. It's pretty unremitting and v wearing.

Has anyone had experience of an adult / partner with ODD? Can it be an adult condition? What's the best way of responding to them?

Symptoms
The key behavioural symptoms of ODD are negative, hostile and defiant behaviour. For ODD to be diagnosed, symptoms have to have been present for at least six months and involve four or more of the following:
often loses temper
often argues with adults
often actively defies or refuses to comply with adults? requests or rules
often deliberately annoys people
often blames others for his mistakes or misbehaviour
often touchy or easily annoyed by others
often angry and resentful
often spiteful or vindictive.
To be classified as ODD, the behaviour also has to have caused a significant degree of disturbance to home, social or school life.

How does it cause problems?
For parents, having a child with ODD can be very difficult. ODD children can vary from being mildly oppositional to always being hostile.
A child with ODD will:
deliberately take the most difficult path, eg to say ?no? on principle
enjoy challenging and arguing with people
refuse to do what he?s told.
It's common for a child with ODD to blame everyone else for his problems, and at his worst he can be angry, spiteful and vindictive.
These types of problem behaviours are typically directed towards parents and teachers, plus others in authority. Coping with a consistently disruptive attitude can be extremely frustrating and physically, mentally and emotionally exhausting.

OP posts:
ElaineMarieBenes · 29/05/2021 20:15

@ShouldersBackChestOutChinUp I know this is an old thread but wanted to say DS2 was considered an ODD child by the Borough educational psychologist! Kicked out of secondary school and went to a PRU at 13 (which was actually a blessing). I’m not saying everything is perfect now he is in his early 20s, but he is doing ok and I’m really proud of him!

EarthSight · 30/05/2021 09:12

It's a type of immaturity and lack of trust in others usually. How was his relationship with his mother? Was she smothering or controlling?

StormBaby · 30/05/2021 09:18

Sounds more like Demand Avoidance to me. Children with ODD are extremely difficult, often end up in young offenders or excluded from school. It’s very different from ASD or PDA, which are neurological. ODD is a psychiatric conduct disorder.

Closetbeanmuncher · 30/05/2021 09:52

Sounds like a garden variety twat to me.

People are so desperate to put labels on things sometimes instead of just acknowledging the behaviour for what it is.

My ex was like this and too this day remains an arrogant cunt who won't be told. Stop looking for excuses and open your eyes 🤦‍♀️

ChristmasFluff · 30/05/2021 14:55

Your partner has Anti-Social Personality Disorder. Most who are diagnised with ODD as children will fit the criteria for ASPD and it's just a case of waiting til they hit 18 to be diagnosed as such.

Whatever, your bar is way too low. He sounds vile and you deserve way better.

OrchestraOfWankery · 30/05/2021 15:07

10 YEAR OLD ZOMBIE THREAD!!!!!

Otter71 · 30/05/2021 22:13

ODD is common as part of Asperger's. People do gain awareness and do try to change. I am a woman with Asperger's and do a couple of FB support groups where this is discussed. That said so is the neurotypical need to solve autism rather than see it's positives <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.leeds.ac.uk/forstaff/download/downloads/id/1485/positives_of_autism&ved=2ahUKEwj1-aWTqfLwAhVQEWMBHWMqCQUQFjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw1z3dDHYuYlt_SagwVn0Y0u" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.leeds.ac.uk/forstaff/download/downloads/id/1485/positives_of_autism&ved=2ahUKEwj1-aWTqfLwAhVQEWMBHWMqCQUQFjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw1z3dDHYuYlt_SagwVn0Y0u

Branleuse · 30/05/2021 22:19

I would imagine ODD being quite difficult to even develop a loving intimate relationship enough to get married and have children. Are you sure its not more PDA ( Demand avoidance) or just being a cantankerous pain in the arse?

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