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Thoughts please...(v. long, sorry)

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ange30 · 06/12/2005 11:43

Don't know where to start. Need to get this off my chest. Can't believe I'm posting, but I've had enough - need support and other perspectives on this. Have 1 DS and 1 DD, pre school age. DP blames me for "ruining his life". He has kicked and punched me but says it's my fault for various reasons. He dragged me along the sofa by my hair when I was PG, threatened to murder me and the kids whilst I was PG as they would be better off not having me as a mother, threatened to crash the car with us all in it to kill me and them, raises his fist to me as he thinks it's funny to see me cower from him. He says he hates me, I'm paid to wash and cook for him, but I'm useless at that. He has been verbally abusive for the last 4 years, puts me down, calls me a slag, accuses me of affairs because I don't want to sleep with him. I don't want to sleep with someone who tells me I'm a useless fat freak, ugly, a slag (not true by the way), screams in my face, tells me I'm a useless mother, sneers that I have no friends, I'm unemployable, etc etc. He says I have ruined his life because earlier this year we had a row, and he shut my ds in the bedroom and said "stay in there, you don't need to see this, I'm going to do your mother in". He tipped the sofa up with me on it, told me to get out of his house, spat at me, threw my clothes up the hall and told me he was taking my kids away from me. I called the police, he was arrested and cautioned. I let him back the next day as I didn't want the kids to have no dad and I was too scared to end it. Also, i was in a village at the time, miles away from anyone, can't drive, no money. Refused help from DV unit, glossed over it. Now DP has been told he must pass a criminal record check to get a licence to do his job. If his company find out about the caution they will sack him for gross misconduct they do it all the time to other people and fire them/don't employ them for bad credit histories etc. I've said they can't do that, he says they can, and it's all my fault for "overreacting and calling police" cos he'll never get a job anywhere again, so he wants me out of his house, leaving my kids behind, as he will be signing on, so he will get custody as I should now go out and get a job to pay my way. He has threatened me numerous times that he will take the kids and get his mother to look after them by saying I'm a druggie and a prostitute - I'm not - I had boyfriends before him but he says I'm a slag for this; MIL will back him up as he controls her too. We have just moved house again to give my kids the chance to be near his family (I don't get on with mine), and to go to a decent school. The house is in his name, I'm only a permitted occupier - he can give me notice to quit; the landlord won't accept HB or unemployed people. I owe arrears to the HA due to an argument from 5 years ago, so they won't rehouse me, as I told them I don't owe it, it's a record error, but as usual, I'm not believed - it still stands.
I have no money apart from tax credits which i have to spend on milk, bread etc for me and kids through week. Cannot get job - can't pay upfront for childcare/physically get to childnminder/work if not in walking distance/dd screams if I leave her with anyone.
All i got from DV and WA is "go to a refuge" or a B&B. They said if the police are called again, and they found out I'd stayed in this situation, then my kids could be put into care, as I've placed them in a situation of emotional abuse by being too frightened to go to a refuge. Sorry, but I don't see why I should have to leave everything behind to live in a hovel miles away, and have Social Services on my case anyway. I asked for the scheme at the council where they pay your rent and deposit in a private house, but they won't tell me how long it would take to come through, if they could fasttrack my benefits etc. I don't want to move somewhere to be kicked out a month later for having no money to pay rent. I would have to get CB paid to me (he has it) - that would take a month, I would have to wait a month for IS to be processed. I have no one to help me move furniture/toys/clothes etc. If I leave everything, I will never have the money to replace it, and it's not fair on kids to lose their home, toys, clothes etc. My friend has just kicked her husband out for DV, she's had social services round, but she's a lot more assertive than me - I am too terrified to leave, and I don't know physically how to do it. If he loses his job today, I daren't imagine what will happen when he gets home. I'm supposed to be going to a concert tonight - his mums supposed to be babysitting - he says he's going to tell her not to come, so I can't go - he knows this will hurt me as I've waited 20 years to go to a concert by this band.
I have no one else to babysit, if she comes and I go alone to the concert, I am scared he will say I've abandoned the kids to go out gallivanting and it also means I will have to spend money on train fares and have to walk home in the dark, and round a strange city.
Totally screwed up now, I have until about 3 pm when I will know if he's calmed down, kept his job, and we're going out, or if WW3 is going to kick off.
Anyone reply please with thoughts to make sense of this mess.

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maturer · 06/12/2005 15:17

Honey you MUST go, today with the children. They are in danger (already sufering emotional abuse experiencing what he's doing to you) You are in grave danger physically and mentally.
Take the children and you go to social services,there is no way they'd part a mother from her family when she is trying to seek help and protect them.
Listen to those wh've been through it. The house is not important - your safety is and you will in time come out the other end in abetter life for you and the kids.
This man has a caution for DV- he's known to the police. Despite what he says he'll NEVER get the kids. Even the squeeky clean fathers struggle to get custody when the main carer is Mum and she wants to keep doing it.The courts will certainly not want to give him care if all he's going to do is pass on the responsibility to MIL!
You will not lose your children if you take this brave step. You will eventually regain your life and your self respect which he's already taken from you. Please go- get help from all those professionals out there who's job it is to help you and get legal advice immediately to protect your care of the children.
Please go today. Stay safe.

noddyholder · 06/12/2005 15:20

Ange listen to all these people with experience and advice You and your kids deserve better You will eventually find yourself in a good place it is just hard to make the 1st move DO IT TODAY

MeerkatsUnite · 06/12/2005 17:04

On average two women per week in this country are killed at the hands of their partner or ex.

You stand a good chance of being one of these women - you need to leave and leave now. Forget the concert that can wait. The safety and wellbeing of your children and you are paramount.

I hope you can find it within you to get out of this abusive and destructive relationship.

Do call Womens Aid.

dropinthemanger · 06/12/2005 17:11

Do you have any friends you could stay with? Get a train a long way from him TODAY! Any relatives, however minor who could help?
You must be terrified of this man-you say you would rather stay at home than in some "hovel"-a hole in the ground that was safe would be more preferable than putting yourself and your children in constant danger!

I feel so sorry for you and hope you find strength and help somewhere.

dropinthemanger · 06/12/2005 17:11

Do you have any friends you could stay with? Get a train a long way from him TODAY! Any relatives, however minor who could help?
You must be terrified of this man-you say you would rather stay at home than in some "hovel"-a hole in the ground that was safe would be more preferable than putting yourself and your children in constant danger!

I feel so sorry for you and hope you find strength and help somewhere.

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BluStocking · 06/12/2005 17:36

Ange - what has happened?
Let people know. Even if you don't feel like taking the advice right now, there are people wanting to support you, and worrying that your P may have come home seeking unjust revenge for a lost job.

Are you ok?

HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 06/12/2005 17:58

Ange - this is awful. I feel so sorry for you and your children

YOU MUST LEAVE!!!

Please let us know you are okay, we are worried about you........

Does anyone know Ange???

SpringCrimboTurkey · 06/12/2005 18:04

Ange even if you dont want to talk at least give us some notice that you are OK

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BudaBabeInAManger · 06/12/2005 18:34

Hope she's OK.

Am hoping that this means she left and doesn't have computer access.

kitegirl · 06/12/2005 18:34

Ange, poor sweetheart, all of us are saying the same - you must leave, for you, for your children. They are your priority, not house, toys, or furniture. Take one step at a time. Please let us know you are ok. Are you able to tell us where in the UK you are?

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HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 06/12/2005 18:37

I just hope the arseh**e hasn't read this

SpringCrimboTurkey · 06/12/2005 18:37

Hopefully she has left and has no internet access - hopefully !
God forbid anything else

HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 06/12/2005 18:37

Lets hope she's out enjoying her concert
Bless her.

BudaBabeInAManger · 06/12/2005 18:38

Oh God - does anyone know her? Has she posted before?

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SpringCrimboTurkey · 06/12/2005 18:39

Didn't even enter my head he might have read this. Hopefully if she has a password to protect her email she will have one to log in too - that's if she logged out of MN this morning

HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 06/12/2005 18:41
Sad
SpringCrimboTurkey · 06/12/2005 20:42

Ange ?!?!

Epiffany · 06/12/2005 20:58

Give us a general idea where you are based Ange then perhaps we can figure out a real solution?
You have to leave, before he kills you or damages you and your kids forever.
I know it seems like every obstacle is in your way, but do camp out at a police station, they WILL get you somewhere safe, it may not be home but it will be safe. You can sort out the rest later. The main thing is to get out.
pls let us know you are ok.

HappyMumof2TurtleDoves · 06/12/2005 21:32

Ange, are you around?

Hope you are ok x

BudaBabeInAManger · 06/12/2005 22:09

Nothing yet then?

PG all OK.

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