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WARNING-VERY VERY LONG SORRY I am distraught and deflated, am sitting here crying. :o(

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fathertimestopsfornoone · 18/06/2011 20:58

Regular namechanged. I don't know why. Maybe because I feel like I'm being ridiculous to even feel this way, but I would appreciate some feedback.

I am a single mum to 2 DC.
My eldest (DS) is 19 and I am heartbroken at the state of our relationship. I completely adore DS, and have always done so, from the very moment he was born. I had such a close relationship with him, he found it very difficult to make friends (mild ASD) and I would spend hours playing games with him when no one else wanted to play with him. I am not the most confident of people myself, but I made friends with people just so DS would have some friends (their DC).
DS was never very confident in himself, and I helped him in any way I could. He is a lovely looking lad. When he went to high school, he blossomed and made a few friends. I welcomed them all into my home. We chatted about so much. I always treated him with the utmost respect and spoilt him too if I'm honest, working from dawn until dusk to give him the things he wanted (usually what his friends had). It wasn't easy being a single mum, but I just wanted him to be happy.
Primary school practically wrote him off, because of how difficult he found school. The headteacher even told me that I wasn't to think of DS as a future scientist, more a trolley dolly. Sad
High school was much more supportive. DS went onto college. I was so proud of him. Grin
Halfway through his college course, he decided to move out, get drunk every night, and almost ruined all his hard work. We spoke and he pulled himself together in time and passed his course. I sat up until 4am writing his notes up for him while he slept.
Since DS moved out, we have got further and further apart. Sad
Now we rarely speak, and I think he must hate me although he claims that's not the truth.
Everything about his life with me he seems to see as an awful time in his life.

It has all come to a head recently. He has told me that he hated school and doesn't want to remember anything from when he was at school.
He doesn't remember us doing anything together, although he doesn't disagree we did things together, just that he doesn't remember.
He says he was always ashamed of my low paid job while he was young and felt embarrassed about it.
He has told me I'm not a very interesting person, and I think too much.
He visibly fizzes when he speaks of his job or his friends, which is rarely, but OTOH deflates when I speak of anything I have done.
He says I have never made him proud. Sad
He never calls me or texts me and he even defriended me on FB Blush because I 'liked' one of his statuses. His reasoning was that his friends wont comment now because I had 'liked' it first.

I remember his childhood with joy, he remembers it with sadness. I did everything I possibly could to make sure his childhood was happy, but he wasn't happy. I have only recently found this out. Sad

DS is logic through and through. I am a single mum now, and when I once said it was hard being a single parent, DS said 'We all make choices, you have made bad ones.'

I have fucking failed as a parent, I have lost what I had with DS. There is lots more but this is long enough as it is, and it is shit to feel like I never really knew him, and the 'old' DS is never coming back, because I don't think he is.
I help him in every way I can, but he is just so unresponsive towards me. He behaves completely different when with his friends, they see the side of him that I used to see, but haven't in the longest time now.

I appreciate most of this is probably his ASD, and that's another reason how I know that this is it, forever.
DS is popular and has a job he enjoys, lots of friends, hobbies he enjoys. OTOH, I am single, and likely to be for a long time, and have watched my life whizz by in a strong wind, dedicating it to someone who truly doesn't connect with me, and finds it hard to give a shit.
I can't remember the last time DS wrote something other than 'To mum, from DS' in a card, or gave me a hug, or even laughed at something I said. I have kept every mothers day card/xmas card/birthday card/ he has ever sent me in a big box along with his school reports, special pictures, photos.
DS used to say I made him as happy as chocolate, but I guess he's discovered chocolate makes you fat, and therefore not very happy in the long run IYSWIM.

Sorry, just needed to write this out. Not sure there is much that is going to make me feel better, because nothing is going to bring the DS who loved his mum back.

He is supposed to be coming over for dinner tomorrow (He is driven here and picked up after or he wouldn't see me at all.) I am frightend to try to talk to him, even chit chat, in case I say the wrong thing and watch his eyes glaze over, or I cry at what we have lost. Sad
Not sure how much longer I can try. Sad Sad Sad

I shouldn't expect anything from DS, I know, but it's heartbreaking to know DS doesn't like me anymore, let alone love me. He has even told me that if I died tomorrow, he wouldn't miss me because that's part of life, you live, then you die. Sad
I mean nothing to him, and yet I would lay down in front of moving traffic in a heartbeat if he needed me to. Sad

Am I torturing myself to even attempt to continue this one sided relationship with him?

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Maryz · 19/06/2011 17:59

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eandz · 19/06/2011 18:00

OP,

I watched a movie the other day called 'Harold and Maude' it made me feel better about a few things. Perhaps you could look into watching it too? It might put things in context?

eandz · 19/06/2011 18:02

heres the imdb link

eslteacher · 19/06/2011 19:35

I remember when I went to university, met a load of new people from completely different walks of life, my mind was opened to completely different value systems, ways of living and life-philosophes than I had ever met before. This resulted, I am ashamed to say, in me judging my parents (particularly my mother) against all these new types of people and ideas that I was meeting, and in me trying to distance myself emotionally from her, to try to prove to myself that I was like my new friends (exciting, open-minded, cosmopolitan) and not like my mum, who was just, well, an average not-very-exciting mum.

My behaviour wasn't as extreme as your son's, and I would be surprised if my mother's reaction was, therefore, as heartfeltedly wretched as yours. But with hindsight I am ashamed of myself as I know my shift in attitude towards my mother was not nice and in no way deserved by her.

BUT, over the course of a few years I basically gradually got over myself and grew up, and came to love and appreciate my mother again as she deserved to be. No big reason why, just a gradual shift and maturing. Now our relationship is better than ever I think.

Obviously every child/parent relationship is different, and your son's behaviour is probably more trying/extreme because of his ADS, but I am sure that as he grows up into a man (remember, he's only a teenager at this point) he will come to appreciate you again as you deserve to be appreciated. I really hope so. xx

fathertimestopsfornoone · 19/06/2011 20:41

Thank you for all your posts.
Maryz You could have been talking about my DS in your post. I appreciate your thoughts, and found your post to be extremely helpful. You have explained it very very well.
I am grateful that you see that it is no fault of mine why DS doesn't want to know me. I understand that most teens rebel, but you are right. Our DC will not do that. There is no rebellion in DS, this is just the way he is.
He will probably never change.

I have been rather surprised by some people on here saying DS probably finds me needy etc. I couldn't distance myself much further without completely cutting all contact, and like your DS, my DS wouldn't cope on his own either. Luckily DS has worked since he was 16, so that is one consolation.

He didn't bother coming for dinner today. He didn't let me know, he just didn't turn up, and to DS, that's a reasonable way to work out that he isn't coming.
I didn't bother phoning him or texting him. What would the point be? Sad

TotallyUtterlyDesperate Thank you for your post too. I am genuinely happy for you that your DS still shows you affection, although it is still hard I agree and am by no means saying your situation is any less difficult than mine. I agree about people with ASD seeing other people as inanimate objects.

TheDuckster Tbh, I am not sure I can live like that. All give and getting nothing back, not even a small gesture. Even if I could bring myself to live that way, which I don't think I can, what example is that setting my other DC?
Is it really a good idea to show DS that no matter how he treats others, the ones who love him will continue giving and giving and will just accept that his behaviour is all down to ASD? No need for him to try then is there? Hmm

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TheDuckster · 19/06/2011 21:05

fathertimestopsfornoone

I truly hope that things turn around for you. But there may come a time when you realise they aren't going to and that you have to accept them as they are and move on.

Maryz · 19/06/2011 21:21

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hardshipuntold · 19/06/2011 21:24

this is so sad ,i do think you should have a talk with him or if you cant manage it then write a letter to him
there must be a reason other than what you know thus far as to why he is acting like this
bug hugs xx

Ormirian · 19/06/2011 21:25

Oh bless you OP Sad

I don'tknow what to say but I have tears in my eyes. Hope it goes well x

hardshipuntold · 19/06/2011 21:41

sorry big hugs

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